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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 09:10    Post subject:
People put money in crypto in the hope they become fiat money millionaires. There's your main problem with crypto and why it will never succeed. Its value is expressed in classic fiat money, so nobody, even 'crypto millionaires', wants the end of fiat money as they'll simply be broke again.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 09:33    Post subject:
The purpose of any currency is to buy stuff, but if that currency is so highly volatile as BTC, than it cannot fulfill that purpose.

People invest in BTC because they were late (not their fault) in classic investement assets. BTC still promises enormous growth and especially younger investors (millenials, Gen Xers) are drawn to it because the classic assets are already taken by boomers.

Its also very tempting because with BTC you own your own keys and don't need an institution to safeguard your assets. At least until you want to cash out.

I understand that people want to make money and become more independant but I don't think BTC can replace fiat anytime soon.


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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 10:20    Post subject:
CBDCs will probably replace cash and fiat as we know it. And with all the comfort they bring, comes the social credit and surveillance shit too.
Crypto won't go away either but many shitcoins will be purged. And the more orwellian CBDCs get, the more value the remaining cryptos will have.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 12:48    Post subject:
Surveillance of all transactions always + expiring money if you look at digital yuan, and still central bank controlled. Ya no thanks cbdc.
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 19:00    Post subject:
In that future, we'll just get 2 separate markets, a (small) official one, and a (huge) unofficial, black market.


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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2023 04:57    Post subject:
This is an interesting 40mins about the BTC wasting energy myth and how it's helping American and poverty stricken communities in Africa night now. I find the stuff going on in Kenya etc. pretty inspiring.

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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2023 14:58    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2023 15:41    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
New all time high on the cards men.

https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/jim-cramer-says-btc-will-shrivel-up-and-die-soon/


That "article" repeats something from another article:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/etf/jim-cramer-predicts-bitcoin-s-imminent-demise-%E2%80%94-will-his-record-for-getting-it-wrong-continue-1032189284

And that just states:

"Cramer's remarks followed the bailout of two major U.S. lenders, Silicon Valley Bank (NASDAQ:SIVB) and Signature. When asked if the stress on the banking system and the Federal Reserve strengthened Bitcoin's investment case, Cramer replied, "No"."

And that seems to have happened quite some time ago already.

So clickbait maybe?


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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2023 16:22    Post subject:
Okay

It's getting ridiculous now to just find straight up info or source material. I often can't find utub-free media. Someone needs to build utub-unwrapped.com for derp narration free content.
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2023 16:52    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Okay

It's getting ridiculous now to just find straight up info or source material. I often can't find utub-free media. Someone needs to build utub-unwrapped.com for derp narration free content.


That's what saddens me the most about the Internet as it is now ; it has become way too hard to get past the 10 pages of copied/pasted "content" tailored to trick the search algorithm - it's become increasingly trickier to find original sources or simple original content now.


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Sep 2023 22:44    Post subject:


LOL


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Sep 2023 22:46    Post subject:
i dont see any way how this crpyto shit is helping anyone in afrika small towns at all, except nigerian princes Laughing

the cost of doing transactions is skyhigh and the volatility of 10% a day sometimes

+ the need of stable internet/power
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Sep 2023 23:04    Post subject:
As if the point of cryptocurrency was "only" to help poverty striken afrikan towns.


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2023 18:28    Post subject:
anyone keeping track of the bitcoin reddit ? the amount of dumb dums and all in posts and fairy tales of 100x wealth is skyrocketing there

i got banned for making one post i dont bilieve in 100x fairy tales Laughing

like extreem cult like muppets trying to convince others to put their whole life savings into ir Shocked Confused

was it so full of desperates last few years , or is this the normal pump n dump before xmass scheme routine
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2023 19:14    Post subject:
Its normal and annual. Just like stocks this time of year.

I wouldnt say its pump and dump.
Buy before christmas, sell after is a good option. I'm doing it. So not really a pump and dump. You need to pump it yourself (or as a group) , to do a pump&dump.

This is just buying/selling strategy like any stock at this time of year: Buy stocks/coins as the prices drop from average people selling to afford christmas/extra christmas money (they will sell a bit lower to sell 'now' and price creeps down). Sell when people that got christmas money/post holiday money want to buy coin/stocks. (they will pay a hair over to get it 'now' and price creeps up)

Tons of people that don't know stocks get dicked all the time thinking they 'heard a good tip' and no idea how to do it. And tons of of people that don't know coins do the same.

Those on the subreddit is like any very specific subreddit: Ignore them, as it's only people zealot enough for a thing, to join a specific subreddit about that thing, to talk about that specifically in its own place and say positive things (and defend it) with others that are zealot enough to join a 'group' for that thing. Majority of them are there because they are 'for' that thing. So of course opinions are going to be heavily favorable of that thing there...To me just like a cult, that doesn't have a physical meeting spot to help identify it as a cult.

Like going to the taylor swift subreddit and asking who is better: her or Rhianna. Your going to get 100% answers of 'her', and if you come out and say she is bad and over hyped..a LOT of hate.
Dont know what you expected going to a subreddit about a thing, and talking shit about that thing..


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Nov 2023 17:58    Post subject:
i was going to be bitcoin sux moses splitting the bitcoin sea bro Laughing Cool

i lasted 2 posts Sad
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2024 12:53    Post subject:
why is this fucking shitcoins rallying 20% again ... everyone wasting their xmass monies ???

people are getting fired left n right in tech and people cant afford groceries btw shitcoins FUCK YEAHHHH Laughing Confused
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2024 14:26    Post subject:
dunno, but if you bought bitcoin everytime you shitpost here instead you would be a millionare by now.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2024 14:37    Post subject:
Bitcoin Transactions Per Day at all time low though. It are mainly the Johnny the Whale kind of btc traders doing their thing Smile if interest gets lost, you need to pump and dump! We are now in the pump phase.... Pump pump pump Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2024 15:18    Post subject:
My closest friend is really big on bitcoins, he's on me all the time, "are you fucking stupid?! buy bitcoins NOW!!!!". i do have some but not a fortune.

i really like buying THINGS though, not fantasy money. what is a big take away for me when it comes to investing is that you never know what you really have until the day you sell it, that's the only point where its worth will matter. It's really not that different than lottery. With THINGS i know their worth + i can use them + it's fucking FUN to spend my money on Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2024 16:35    Post subject:
I've had a decent run of buying non-things (bitcoin/eth/litecoin/etc) to afford my things. It's what filled my garage with wood toys. Its paid for my table saw, CNC, laser CNC, drill press, and bandsaw. Along with my new PC racing wheel, my last PC build, and latest monitor.

It may be non-money things. But putting a little money into the non-things, pays for my hobby things Razz

My total as of now across 4-5 base coins:
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I started with $300, and this is after I bought all the above listed stuff. It's not a fortune or windfall. But for starting with $300 and getting all that stuff, and still up $2800 isnt bad.

Just be a little smarter than the average crypto dabbler, and don't be greedy chasing 'lambo money' holding waiting for 100% gains to trade, and just buy/sell the 2-3% waves, adds up. I wouldn't bet my retirement on a crypto based plan. But hobby money I will risk it. At this point if I lose all $3000 of that and end at $0. I see it as I spent $300, to get $7000 worth of stuff. Win I say.


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Dec 2024 19:08    Post subject:


so they are gonna sell their gold for bitcoins ... a real rare ore for virtual trash Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

i cant wait for 2025 , a whole lotta people are going to unalive themselves when they think about not having sold at 100k after they wake up to when its crashed 99% overnight

crypto as a strategic reserve ... this one is going into the anals of history on level of the tulip balony
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Dec 2024 20:08    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
i cant wait for 2025 , a whole lotta people are going to unalive themselves when they think about not having sold at 100k after they wake up to when its crashed 99% overnight

Annnnny day now. You have been saying this since 2017.

This is like a weatherman saying every day to expect a hurricane because he has no idea how weather works. Then if one comes going "I KNEW it! I predicted this". No, he didn't. He just won a random dice roll of something with a not 0% chance of happening, happening, because he said it everyday.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Dec 2024 20:22    Post subject:
But the tulips, its exactly like with the tulip bubble Laughing

10 years later, still talking about tulips.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Dec 2024 13:02    Post subject:


fartcoin Laughing Laughing Laughing

who says all these coins have been paid for, mihght just aswel be inflated balony
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Dec 2024 13:33    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
But the tulips, its exactly like with the tulip bubble Laughing

10 years later, still talking about tulips.

The tullip bubble did also last for 6, 7 years before it all came crashing down.


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SumZero




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Dec 2024 20:32    Post subject:
So did WWII, NSync, Spice Girls, and Myspace, your point? They all lasted about 6-7 years.
Just because something shares a window of existence length with something else, in no way makes a correlation of prediction of how long other things that have existed that long so far will last.

And the tulip mania was 2 1/2 years, not 6-7. Started in the winter of 1634. Collapsed in February 1637.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Feb 2025 22:50    Post subject:
so tesla down 8 points, now bitcoin also down 8 mmmm so decentralized rofl Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Mar 2025 00:15    Post subject:
Since there's a lot of movement all over, I tried to make this as digestable as possible.
I also invite you to use the source (at the bottom for this article, but also in general through a translator for great financial news.

(I use it daily and heavily recommend it as it's as as fair and balanced as I can see and although in French, you can easily use a translator Smile )


Block 1: Key news


Crypto Summit 2025: the White House brings together industry leaders


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Belarus plans to mine cryptocurrencies for the state


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Bukele defies IMF and continues bitcoin purchases

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Tether announces its first financial audit for greater transparency



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Block 2: Crypto Analysis of the Week



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A massive purchase of cryptos... or a simple sleight of hand?


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So why risk public funds to buy BTC when you can simply let the market do the work... and collect the gains?

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A dubious comparison with the strategic petroleum reserve


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A poisoned gift to crypto's big money


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Business before politics?


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Source: https://www.zonebourse.com/actualite-bourse/La-Crypto-Strategic-Reserve-de-Trump-une-mauvaise-idee-Crypt-On-It-49248107/
(In French)


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2025 13:38    Post subject:
not even a trump shitcoin reserve can keep the gains of this pump n dump going Laughing Laughing Laughing

lets goooo downnnnn dooooown with the sickness
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