Where is the we miss troika thread?
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Geomides
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 21:26    Post subject: Where is the we miss troika thread?
can it be there is none?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 21:31    Post subject:
vampire masq-blood is one of my favorite games. dunno how their other stuff is, though.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 21:50    Post subject:
One of my own making. True story too.

*reinstalling as we speak*

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lhzr




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:00    Post subject:
your jedi mind tricks won't work on me, sabin. i just played it a couple of months ago Smile

here's some more awesomeness that i've been keeping on mah desktop.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:04    Post subject:
Stupendous game, it truly truly is. For all its flaws, the game still shines as an example of how to make an epic Vampire game. I loved the first Masquerade title too, but I greatly prefer Bloodlines.

If anyone decides to check it out again, I recommend getting the latest (ver 6.1) Unofficial Patch. Tessmage threw a wobbly over how many people refused to suck his dick on the grounds that he is, quite obviously to himself, a God - so he has wiped all the work on his "True Patch" - leaving the way open for the one and only "true" patch Wink

Good riddance I say. Long live Unofficial!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:13    Post subject:
6.1?? what the hell?
after finishing the game with 1.2, i found out about 2.something and now you're saying there's a 6.1 version??? Neutral

also what's the deal with the true patch and tessmage ?

and what about other troika games? anything mindblowing between them?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:29    Post subject:
Aye, "Unofficial Patch" is now up to 6.1 and it's excellent! Adds scenes cut from the retail game, fixes bugs, adds features and also engine optimisations. It gets updates all the time too.

Tessmage is the guy who makes porno mods for Sims2 and Bloodlines, and is also the author of the Vampire Bloodlines "True Patch" (his own variant of the unofficial patch, but rather than adding cut features/storyline/events/places, he just concentrated on it being a PATCH to fix bugs/glitches)

He then threw a wobbly over people not appreciating his work, preferring to use Unofficial instead, so he "took his ball and went home"-- deleted all references and files for the True Patch and then shut his site down in a MASSIVE nerd-rage fit.

http://www.tessmage.com/main.htm << NSFW link. Has nekkid ladies and pornographic models for games. Visit quickly, he's taking the site offline at the end of this month.

He calls his True Patch "the best one on the internet" and said this as a closing message;

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Once it became clear that the public did not value his work, Tessera has simply walked away from the ingrates.

Mediocrity wins again.


LAWL. Cry moar, your salty emo tears taste good.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:38    Post subject:
i was gonna say quote your "makes porno mods" statement and say "enough said", but then i clicked on the link and .. ahahahahaha Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:38    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
and what about other troika games? anything mindblowing between them?


Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura was brilliant. I didn't really get into the Temple of Elemental Evil - the game seemed v primitive to me, missing something.

If you fancy playing Arcanum, then check out the unoffical patch on rpgcodex.net.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2009 22:41    Post subject:
"Mature Gamers" my arse. More like "For sexually frustrated, fat, acne-ridden, teenagers who couldn't get laid in a brothel" Rolling Eyes

I've never met a LEGITIMATELY mature gamer who has to resort to downloading nude mods for his, or her, games. The no-censor patch for Sims is different, IMO, in that it's not a nude "mod" it just removes that stupid blocky crap.

Anyway, all OT chat aside, here's the site where you can get the Unofficial Patch; http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php
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JahLux
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th May 2009 06:42    Post subject:
So all i need is the latest unofficial patch ? or do i have to install em in order?

also what are some good mods you can use with it ? anything that enhances the gaming hehe Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th May 2009 09:00    Post subject:
All you need is the latest; 6.1 Smile

As for mods? Yanno, I really don't know any. It never even crossed my mind to go looking for them.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 04:22    Post subject:
Finished it without patches, I'm a champ. Does it work on an 8800GT? Last I heard it didn't (or was that KotOR II?).

I'm too busy playing NOLF anyway, what a game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 10:46    Post subject:
One of my favourite RPG games ever... So sad how buggy it was but surely the gameplay compensated that aspect.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 10:48    Post subject:
@Frolsa

Don't worry mate, Vampire works great on the 8800GT. You're right, KotOR has issues (same with the 4-series Radeons too, massive screen flickering unless you turn off FBE)

@Mutantius

Agreed! Buggy as all hell, but the sublime gameplay more than made up for it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:08    Post subject:
Man, Its such as shame we wont see another worthy installment. It will probably spark a sequel in a year or two with a "bloodraynish-consolish" gameplay with no RPG depth whatsoever... Though there is a an upcoming world of darkness MMO game but I seriously doubt how well that will turn out but we can hope.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:12    Post subject:
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Its really odd that they didnt do more bug fixes seeing as the game was finsihed 1 month or so before they where allowed to release it.


With all due respect, I strongly recommend you read more about Troika before bad-mouthing or blaming them for the poor state it was released in. Their hand was forced and they HAD to release it before it was finished due to publisher insistence. After Troika went bankrupt, they continued patching the game for MONTHS - with no pay and nothing but the gratitude of their fans.

After it was released, and from the coder bedrooms, they released two patches. That, if you ask me, is fan-support to the level of Stardock and CD Projekt.

For example;

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Bloodlines went Gold as Version 1.0. Since contractual obligations with Valve would interdict Bloodlines to be released before Valve's debut of the Source engine in Half-Life 2, Activision did not publicly announce that the game had gone Gold and instead gave Troika an additional week to polish the game, after which Bloodlines Version 1.1 underwent another three weeks of testing.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:32    Post subject:
Troika had trouble with all of their RPGs. That sort of RPG always has scores upon scores of scripting errors. Probably why we see so few RPGs and so many first person shooters.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:35    Post subject:
Geomides wrote:
mea culpa.


Actually, MY bad ... reading my post back sounds far more antagonising than intended. Sorry about that Sad



Perdurab00 wrote:
Troika had trouble with all of their RPGs. That sort of RPG always has scores upon scores of scripting errors. Probably why we see so few RPGs and so many first person shooters.


Grand visions, lack of time (in their mind, naturally, they'd like YEARS to fine-tune their games) it seems.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:38    Post subject:
Actually, I wouldn't find too much wrong with that statement either (Arcanum rules but god DAMN it's buggy)
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:54    Post subject:
How much does this 6.1 patch fix/add? Does it give a different/better gaming experience compared to vanilla?
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 12:55    Post subject:
Considerably! Almost all the bugs are fixed and there's been a lot of restored content.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 13:24    Post subject:
Has it been optimized to? I remember having to run and look into the ground for the stutter to stop Sad (radeon 9600 but still Wink )
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 15:40    Post subject:
The latest patch seems to be 6.2 btw.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 15:48    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Aye, "Unofficial Patch" is now up to 6.1 and it's excellent! Adds scenes cut from the retail game, fixes bugs, adds features and also engine optimisations. It gets updates all the time too.



Mister_s wrote:
The latest patch seems to be 6.2 btw.


LMAO!! See what I mean? It was updated to 6.2 barely three days ago, heh. As I said; updates all the time ^_^
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 17:58    Post subject:
Geomides wrote:
stuttering doesnt necasserally have to be related to the GPU. can be ur cpu/ram afaik


yeah yeah my whole comp sucks the radeon is the newest part Sad

Since it's been optimized i'm going to try it again someday, thanks sabin Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2009 18:45    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
Has it been optimized to? I remember having to run and look into the ground for the stutter to stop Sad (radeon 9600 but still Wink )


aye the rain is what messed it up for me

luckily its fine now since i updated to 6.1

SAUCEOME
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 15:30    Post subject:
Are there any good texture mods for this game?
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 15:36    Post subject:
I've been playing this LOADS over the past couple days ... absolutely loving it, just as I always have. No *major* issues to speak of except none of the opening movies play, it's just a black screen with audio. In-game cutscenes are fine, of course.

Performance is still poor, but not unenjoyable any more. Get 45-75fps and the only reason I say poor is because, que? 45fps on a game that's 5 years old - on THIS spec computer? Pfffft. Shit, any other Source-based game runs 100fps+ at all times, all settings, including FakeFactory 10 and Dark Messiah.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2009 16:29    Post subject:
Yeah, this game is just off the awesomeness scale, I've finished it 3 times (without the unofficial patch, just 1.2) So now I have a reason to finish it again Very Happy

I don't really care about fps, I care about fluidity, I always had stutter in this game, mostly when going around the town. Also, the animations were sometimes really bad, especially in some cutscenes.

And parts of the game felt rushed and unfinished. At least I never encountered any of the known game-breaking bugs.
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