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 Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:00 Post subject: onlyfans revenue in 2022 |
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Dromaium
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:02 Post subject: |
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Why are you bitching about this?
My pronouns are:
Ask me that question again and I will make you change yours!
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:07 Post subject: |
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cause its pathethic and covid is over but still massive growth, that shit even shows up 1to1 on creditcard statements, with the full url
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Dromaium
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:13 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | cause its pathethic and covid is over but still massive growth, that shit even shows up 1to1 on creditcard statements, with the full url |
People have been playing for sex since time immemoral, if anything is a level of sophistication above Internet porn and street prospitution, its a framework that offers a higher degree of safety for sex workers when compared to regular pimping and offers a more personalized and intimate context for clients.
If the pathethic is related to people playing for sex, I agree, but it has been pathethic for at least 100k years, on the other hand if you argue that the onlyfans model is pathethic, I couldn't disagree more.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:20 Post subject: Re: onlyfans revenue in 2022 |
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| PickupArtist wrote: |
its a SIMP world ... |
I read that as "it's a SNMP world".
Need some vacation ASAP 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:22 Post subject: |
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if u seen how much these women beg for tips ON TOP of the sub ... they want people to drop 50 bucks each week on a shitty snap 60 sec video lol , and the simps pay thinking they have a shot with em
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Dromaium
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:28 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | if u seen how much these women beg for tips ON TOP of the sub ... they want people to drop 50 bucks each week on a shitty snap 60 sec video lol , and the simps pay thinking they have a shot with em |
That has been the plight of desperate men since women discovered they had a money making machine between their legs.
What I mean to say is that only fans is simply modern prospitution
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:33 Post subject: |
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@Dromaium
Exactly. It's the oldest profession. Men have been paying to watch women since they discovered they could trade/use objects to pay for it with. This is not a 'new' thing by any means. Just the current era's version of it using the sources available to facilitate it.
Cabaret shows, Burlesque shows, peep shows, Strip clubs, Maiden Displays (old US west shows put on in pubs), Window shows in 1800's red light districts (they charge by the minute for the curtain raising).
To complain that onlyfans is a reflection of the current world, is true. Only because it's simply the current world's form of the ever present and always existing situation of men will exchange things they have, to see women they don't, be sexy.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 18:36 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | if u seen how much these women beg for tips ON TOP of the sub ... |
That's how a stripclub works too tips on top of $20 door entry fee:
Beg/ply for money on stage. Then work you for more money off stage, to work you for more money to pay them to dance in front of you with no touching. Then work you for whatever you have left as tips and buying them $10 drinks They get a cut of drink sales they talk guys into in some bars.
SOME places girls always ask to buy them a dark liquor drink. So the bartender can just give the girl a glass of coke, and charge you $10-$15 for a whiskey, or bourbon or such. (Because a dancer trying to drink 30 whiskeys they talked different guys into a night would pass them out)
Again nothing new at all.
To quote a old crude but applicable phrase: "Women have the upper hand. They have 1/2 the money and all the pussy"
Or the stripclub mantra: "I came horny and a pocket full of cash, 5 hours later I leave more horny and broke."
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:00 Post subject: |
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how much does the site itself take? for superchats on youtube i think YT takes most of it. its why i never would superchat, why the fuck would you want to support youtube? send them money via paypal, such a waste to see all those $100-500 superchats, i've seen them increase over the years too. i remember $100 was kind of extraordinary maybe 2-3 years ago.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:10 Post subject: |
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| Dromaium wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | | cause its pathethic and covid is over but still massive growth, that shit even shows up 1to1 on creditcard statements, with the full url |
People have been playing for sex since time immemoral, if anything is a level of sophistication above Internet porn and street prospitution, its a framework that offers a higher degree of safety for sex workers when compared to regular pimping and offers a more personalized and intimate context for clients.
If the pathethic is related to people playing for sex, I agree, but it has been pathethic for at least 100k years, on the other hand if you argue that the onlyfans model is pathethic, I couldn't disagree more. |
The payers are pathetic, the model is smart.
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vurt
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Dromaium
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:18 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Dromaium wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | | cause its pathethic and covid is over but still massive growth, that shit even shows up 1to1 on creditcard statements, with the full url |
People have been playing for sex since time immemoral, if anything is a level of sophistication above Internet porn and street prospitution, its a framework that offers a higher degree of safety for sex workers when compared to regular pimping and offers a more personalized and intimate context for clients.
If the pathethic is related to people playing for sex, I agree, but it has been pathethic for at least 100k years, on the other hand if you argue that the onlyfans model is pathethic, I couldn't disagree more. |
The payers are pathetic, the model is smart. |
So they have been pathethic for the entre human history and prehistory
And in that regard I agree with you.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:46 Post subject: |
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| Dromaium wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Dromaium wrote: |
People have been playing for sex since time immemoral, if anything is a level of sophistication above Internet porn and street prospitution, its a framework that offers a higher degree of safety for sex workers when compared to regular pimping and offers a more personalized and intimate context for clients.
If the pathethic is related to people playing for sex, I agree, but it has been pathethic for at least 100k years, on the other hand if you argue that the onlyfans model is pathethic, I couldn't disagree more. |
The payers are pathetic, the model is smart. |
So they have been pathethic for the entre human history and prehistory
And in that regard I agree with you. |
Paying to get laid is alright. Paying to see cameltoes and see through bra's is not. It's kinda funny, but the last person these models will show themselves nude to is the ones who pay abhorrent sums of money. But they don 't realize it. Absolute tossers.
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Dromaium
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:53 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Dromaium wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: |
The payers are pathetic, the model is smart. |
So they have been pathethic for the entre human history and prehistory
And in that regard I agree with you. |
Paying to get laid is alright. Paying to see cameltoes and see through bra's is not. It's kinda funny, but the last person these models will show themselves nude to is the ones who pay abhorrent sums of money. But they don 't realize it. Absolute tossers. |
What is the difference?
Is it not possible that some people gain a higher satisfaction from the fetish and not from the act?
Some men and even women go to a strip club and would never pay for sex.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 20:56 Post subject: |
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Ok, keep paying your onlyfans idols then. I'll call you a fool from the sidelines, but what you do is up to you.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 21:32 Post subject: |
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As we have said, men (and to some degree women) have been paying to see people look sexy since people had things to pay with.
See also: Stripclubs.
And they been around WAYYY before the internet. Some men will spend $400-$500 a night and not even see a nipple or get to touch anything. The allure of a woman being nice to you, and talking to you while being dressed sexy in a "Lets both pretend money is not involved and I have a hot chick paying attention to me." is a huge market regardless if you personally see a need for it.
Just because it's not your thing does not mean it's not been a human thing for 1000's of years. I've seen men spend an entire paycheck, the day they get it, in a stripclub. Well not ME see it, but wife came home with that money many a time back when she was a dancer and told me the stories. had one guy that would come in and spend $1000 each weekend on 'his' girls (the ones he showed up to see) to talk and dance for him. Didn't get to touch anything, see anything nude, or take them home.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 21:39 Post subject: |
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@FireMaster
Same same as stripclubs, again nothing new. And is 'normal' on humanity scale. It's been that way since and before the whores of babylon knew how to play the game to get all the mens money they had on them and leave without needing to do any sex.
At Stripcubs: Men will come in to see 'their' girl. And pay more and more to get them to sit with them vs other customers.
Wife had one that would toss $50 more at her if he noticed someone else wanted to chat with her, or get a dance from her, to keep her talking to him at his table.
Sometimes he would just ask "How much you make on a day like today?" and pay that upfront to keep her at his table.
Hell if I came to pick her up and he was there, I would walk over and ask her if she wanted to dance before closing, to imply she would be gone until lights came on (he didn't know me, or who I was) just to bump up her take home cash real quick before closing.
When a man thinks he can't get a woman to date him (or single and depressed, or just divorced, or old, or socially awkward). "I have money, but no woman attention. I want woman's attention more than my money": Instant, immediate fake purchased attention is a lucrative market.
Successful 'good at the game' strippers dont drive Mercedes and have $5000 in outfits from charity. They earned that stupid amount of money off guys with more money and lonely than sense.
And always was, and will be that way. OnlyFans is just doing the same from home.
Men have thought with the wrong head, since man existed 
Other people do and think in ways I don't about things I have no interest in. That's human nature, and to imply its a new thing since you are newly exposed to it, is assuming people was like you, until now simply because you never seen it before now. (When it's just you didn't know that behavior existed for a looong time, until it was shown to you).
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 22:20 Post subject: |
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In times past it was pay to fuck. It still is like that and i don't mind that at all. Incels as Firemaster puts it wants to feel the real thing too, but sadly no women wants them so hookers are the only real option. Then we have onlyfans. A site where women "scam" dumbasses for a lot of money. I'm sure they won't outright lie so much, maybe tricky wording and technicalities to leave you disappointed after paying outrageous amount of money. Do they even talk one on one on that site? if not i don't see the personal side in this for lonelies.
Still if you go to onlyfans to become intimate with a woman you're stupid beyond belief anyway.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Sep 2023 23:00 Post subject: |
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I myself think going to a stripclub is more depressing.
As with the e-girl you didn't even leave the house to see it, it can be a whim or low effort. A strip club you showered, got dressed, drove to a place, and spending money on a woman that is in front of you, that you cant do anything with. You could have got dressed and drove somewhere with women like a bar and had a chance.
Its effort and travel to go to a place to give women money you know you won't sleep with. That's more self depreciating to me.
For this:
| Quote: | | But onlyfans seems to have a more emotional needs angle. Main target: The socially handicapped, since they're clearly not financially so. This is why some see is as sort of predatory and not a force for good. |
I'm assuming you have never been to a stripclub? MOST the guys are in there for that exact reason. attention deprived, desperate men that do not have the social skills to hit on women, too ugly/fat/old/whatever to think they have a chance to, or so needy for female attention they go pay for it.
Very few 'regulars' at them are the type that dont feel the need to pay for attention.
Once you been in that 'scene' you realize onlyfans is just the doordash of equal of it:
Realize you have no women and desperate for that feeling even if just a not true facsimile of it, but have money some women would want, so use one to get the attention of one (even if shallowly fake). So order a woman like you like to see. And have it delivered to your house to watch. Same audience, same clientele, the venn diagram of the two are nearly an identical single circle. Only divation would be the ones that cannot leave the house for some reason or another are exclusively in the onlyfans group.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Sep 2023 14:21 Post subject: |
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Super depressing going to a strip club with some colleagues or friends for some fun and drinks. It's very, very depressing indeed.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Sep 2023 16:01 Post subject: |
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They aren't the best places. Even the 'nice' ones are really just fancied up hovels of sad men and more expensive than usual dancers.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Sep 2023 16:04 Post subject: |
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"sad men" that is quite the generalization from the old "wizened" contrarian on this board who have debated due to generalizations probably more times than i can count. You debate better than most, but your content reeks of double standards and bias.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Sep 2023 16:47 Post subject: |
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I meant sad as is self introspection, not sad as in an outside judgemental conclusion.
Most guys I met there that was regulars multiple times a week (not the random bachelor party, or business lunch ones) was there because they was sad/lacking/lonely in some capacity spending more than they can afford multiple times a week on what they can't have, to fill a void they can't get rid of.
Sometimes you run into the rare breed of "Captain save-a-ho" Middle aged guy that goes thinking he can go and get one of the 'damaged young good looking ones' that he believes is within his reach, and make a home wife out of one of them. HE thinks he just needs enough money and time to talk one into it.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Sep 2023 16:57 Post subject: |
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Depends on what you are after. For the ones that go more than once a week [The Regulars]:
-Some go just for the show, they like the voyeurist aspect of it. (these are the most 'normal' ones of the bunch)
-Some go to pay for the view, they liked naked women and nothing gets that done faster that paying one to do it. The women are objects to see naked, and nothing more.
-Some are married and want to window shop for an appetite before going home to eat.
-Some are old and enjoy young women paying them attention and talking to them while 1/2 dressed.
-Some go trying to get laid, because the idea of her willing and wanting to after you 'picked her up' is better than the knowledge an escort is doing it out of obligation. And they think a stripper is easy to talk into it.
-Some guys trying to find love, and assume all dancers are damaged 'daddy issue' women that are lower on the bar and willing to trade 'stable' for 'hot' since they dont think they can catch someone that is both.
And dozens of other reasons. I've met all types, and sure more I didnt.
The last two spend the most money. As they are chasing a dream on the horizon: No matter how far they travel to it, the horizon is still as far away as it was. But they will try and try for years.."Tomorrow will be the day! I know it!"
One guy obsessed with my wife had to have spent like $5000-$8000 in a year coming to see her. A girl doing a personalized "Hey how you doing so-and-so, I was looking for you!" when they walk in with a hug and a smile, lands the hook to reel in money every time on those two. A carrot on a stick, you just wiggle the carrot a bit and they chase it.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Don't forget that for all those top earners, there's an immensely vast majority of people struggling to make any kind of actual money.. and that can lead them to becoming increasingly desperate and doing stuff they wouldn't have thought about in a very sad and pathetic way.
