We had this conversation in some other topics but let's make a separate one. Let's bench our routers in terms of bufferbloat. You can have pretty much any broadband speed (apart from some 1-10G) and your bufferbloat might still suck.
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german cable, 29,99 a month , no limits, but some months this shit loses all connection sometimes every day of the week, german internet infrastructure is a freaking mess, especialy with cable where one house in the street can fuck up a whole street if something goes wrong as it interfears somehow with all the other houses. My isp spams me every month to pay 5 euro more for 200mbit, but its not worth it
everything green , pc connected directly to the cable modem, no router i guess?
will try next month on my parents retarded belgian cable internet at 40 euro a month with 150gig download limit .... ( yes 2-3 steam games and ur limit is gone) and they make u surf at 0,5mbit afterwards or pay 5 euro for 25 gigs extra
belgian power tv and internet is in the middle ages and all the sheep keep paying premiums for it
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My router turned unresponsive the other day after the ISP went down for 24 hours (thunderstorm or something) so I had to do a 30+30+30 reset to get it working again. I didn't have a backup of the nvram-settings so I had to configure it from scratch. I didn't go overboard with configuration this time, instead focusing on security and disabling services I didn't use. Lo and behold, I got better scores today than I've ever had before. Still not A+ but close enough. It's an old-ass Netgear 1Gbps router that is nothing special so I'm not surprised it's A+ in anything. It hasn't received a DD-WRT-update since 2013 or so.
EDIT: noticed that I have qbittorrent running in the background as well. Can't be arsed to redo the test, take a new screenshot etc.
To all of you who arent getting A at least. Check if you can adjust Bufferbloat at your router. Many soho models do not support it but some definitely do. Also it's a good thing to keep in mind when you upgrade your router at some point.
My personal suggestion is 'once you go pfSense...
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To all of you who arent getting A at least. Check if you can adjust Bufferbloat at your router. Many soho models do not support it but some definitely do. Also it's a good thing to keep in mind when you upgrade your router at some point.
My personal suggestion is 'once you go pfSense...
same router, same ISP, 2 different connection types.
vdsl (100 mbits) = bufferbloat A
35b supervectoring (250 mbits) = bufferbloat B
so clearly it's not just the router, which causes "bad" ratings.
The buffer bloat for me, as far as I can tell, happens during upload. That's when the bufferbloat-meter goes nuts for a while. Barely a quiver during the 100mbit download test. I seriously doubt it's my router since I've got 100/10. It's more likely that it's my ISP's bandwidth limiter that is introducing the bufferbloat during uploads.
I can choose to upgrade to any of the following plans showing that it's not a bandwidth issue:
Bufferbloat:
Quote:
Bufferbloat is a cause of high latency in packet-switched networks caused by excess buffering of packets. Bufferbloat can also cause packet delay variation (also known as jitter), as well as reduce the overall network throughput.
Don't they have better speeds where you live, thats almost prehistoric.
There are better speeds, but sadly only the main towns are equipped to support them. Here in the countryside the infrastructures are still the same ones from the early 2000s, the only options are: 7Mbit (which never "maxes out" in my area) or the satellite one which if a lot faster but...the service is abysmal and the connection regularly drops every hour (my neighbor has it and wants to revert to the old one, go figure ).
Dat fantastic ISP router, i have been having hard time with it for a long time, it overheats and requires reboot like once a day (or else speed will decrease to 56K modem speeds), ISP says its perfetly fine, they refuse to give new one, everytime i call on them, there is some phone technician who advises me to buy new cable or asks if the router is actually turned on when there is problems (jesus christ)
The buffer bloat for me, as far as I can tell, happens during upload. That's when the bufferbloat-meter goes nuts for a while. Barely a quiver during the 100mbit download test. I seriously doubt it's my router since I've got 100/10. It's more likely that it's my ISP's bandwidth limiter that is introducing the bufferbloat during uploads.
I can choose to upgrade to any of the following plans showing that it's not a bandwidth issue:
Bufferbloat:
Quote:
Bufferbloat is a cause of high latency in packet-switched networks caused by excess buffering of packets. Bufferbloat can also cause packet delay variation (also known as jitter), as well as reduce the overall network throughput.
There also is 'Quality' result.
Quote:
Quality Grades
Quality refers to average detected packet loss / re-transmit percentages during download phase. The higher the packet loss / re-transmit percentage the more inefficient the connection is, and a very poor result may be indicative of congestion, inside wiring issues or other problems that need addressing.
1% or less - A+
2.5% or less - A
3% or less - B
5% or less - C
12% or less - D
over 12% - F
Yes the router might not be the only reason for poor quality but it can definitely be a part of the reason.
All of these things can AND will affect your multiplayer experience so it's good to make sure that your connection issues as minimal as possible.
@ixi You should upgrade that thing men! EdgeRouter X is not that expensive. In your situation I would get EdgeRouter X and use that D-Link in bridge mode.
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