Linux Turns 24, Happy Birthday!
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Aug 2015 23:12    Post subject: Linux Turns 24, Happy Birthday!
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Let's celebrate the amazing Linux project

Dear all, today is August 25, 2015, and the time has come for us, Linux users, to party in celebration of the 24th anniversary of the Linux project, announced by none other than its creator, Linus Torvalds, on the sunny day of Sunday, August 25, 1991.

Yes, it has been 24 long years (actually time flies pretty fast when you're having fun installing Linux kernel-based operating systems) since the first ever release of the Linux project, which is the core component of any GNU/Linux distribution.

Because it's celebration time, we won't bore you with nonsense and technical details about what Linux is or how Linux is built, or who uses Linux. For that, we have attached a nice video at the end of the article, thanks to the Linux Foundation.

What we want to remind everyone with this piece of article is that Linux is everywhere, even if you don't see it. You use Linux when you search on Google, you use Linux when you buy metro tickets, actually the whole Internet is powered by Linux!

Linux is even used on airplanes, and all sorts of smart devices that you buy and use in your home. Your Wi-Fi router is powered by Linux, your Android phone is powered by Linux, and you might even use Linux at work and you don't even know it.

The Softpedia Linux team wishes a very Happy Birthday to Linux! May you live longer than anything else in this world! Happy 24th birthday, Linux!


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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Aug 2015 23:18    Post subject:
and no happy birthday thread yesterday for 20 years windows 95? Sad









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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Aug 2015 23:25    Post subject:
Well we're talking about relevant software, not museum stuff Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 00:31    Post subject:
Shoshomiga wrote:
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
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ok.

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Windows is made by M$ who want to drink my blood in a satanic ritual while Bill Gates dances naked, better install Linux because it is open source

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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 00:39    Post subject:
bill gates does more for charity than all other citizens together, just sayin...

the whole linux/gnu stuff is kinda complicated. you could fill a whole 500 pages book with that topic
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 07:30    Post subject:
It's rather simple. GNU supposed to be an entire Unix clone with all components produced by one organization (so to call). By the beginning of the nineties, they had everything except a working kernel, and then some people decided to try newly developed Linux kernel (since it was also free, GPL-ed, and supported most standard Unix system calls at the time) with the rest of GNU stuff (init process manager, shell, commands etc), and that's what's GNU/Linux is all about. The details are internal stuff for enthusiasts. Even in Microsoft separate team developed the kernel DLLs and another teams developed the userspace stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 10:17    Post subject:
+ add the whole richard stallmann drama about the kernel and gnu (free) packages etc Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 10:41    Post subject:
Congratulations to 24 years of


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 10:46    Post subject:
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actually time flies pretty fast when you're having fun installing Linux kernel-based operating systems


Indeed, you'll have to develop a great sense of humor to keep reinstalling Linux every week because it's so easy to fuck up.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 12:04    Post subject:
Then I must be doing something wrong, because my Linux workstation has been running fine for three years at work (Ubuntu 12.04 with lots of additional software), and I have the root password so I can do whatever I want. I guess I'll have to derp harder.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 12:15    Post subject:
Maybe you should do some work behind it instead of only watching screensavers Cool Face


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 12:20    Post subject:
i know even people who can destroy their fresh windows within a week Very Happy

but yes, linux can be fucked easily too. ofc not if you just use basic programms, but if you dig deeper and dont watch yourself -> bam dead
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 12:30    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
This Laughing
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actually time flies pretty fast when you're having fun installing Linux kernel-based operating systems


Indeed, you'll have to develop a great sense of humor to keep reinstalling Linux every week because it's so easy to fuck up.


Idk, been using arch linux (more or less bleeding edge updates) and never had to reinstall... except of course when I bought a new laptop Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 13:17    Post subject:
Main problem with Linux is that it's way too easy to delete files required by the OS. Proper file protection, anyone? Or editing a simple config the wrong way and unbootable again. Linux = POS OS.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 13:40    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
Main problem with Linux is that it's way too easy to delete files required by the OS. Proper file protection, anyone? Or editing a simple config the wrong way and unbootable again. Linux = POS OS.


Maybe try be less lol wut when using linux, the kinds of problem your describing are user error i.e having no idea what your doing or systems your working with and botching your system. POS user
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 13:59    Post subject:
Amen!

Happy birthday to all happy penguin users around the world! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 14:30    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
but yes, linux can be fucked easily too. ofc not if you just use basic programms

Actually this happened to me. I did try to change some details of a theme or something using the GUI only and in the end my x.org config was broken. No idea what happened as I immediately gave up on that installation. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 15:08    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
Main problem with Linux is that it's way too easy to delete files required by the OS. Proper file protection, anyone? Or editing a simple config the wrong way and unbootable again. Linux = POS OS.

Maybe don't use root all the time?
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 15:22    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Areius wrote:
Main problem with Linux is that it's way too easy to delete files required by the OS. Proper file protection, anyone? Or editing a simple config the wrong way and unbootable again. Linux = POS OS.


Maybe try be less lol wut when using linux, the kinds of problem your describing are user error i.e having no idea what your doing or systems your working with and botching your system. POS user

This. If you break your OS, any OS. That easily, you need to get good. Not the OS. Any OS can be broken if you have admin or root control.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 19:05    Post subject:
Shall we do a battle between how easy you can fuck up an OS? You try to fuck up Windows, I'll do Linux. I'll guarantee I can fuck Linux up in 1-2 seconds. Try that on Windows.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 19:12    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
Shall we do a battle between how easy you can fuck up an OS? You try to fuck up Windows, I'll do Linux. I'll guarantee I can fuck Linux up in 1-2 seconds. Try that on Windows.

If you let me preconfigure the linux I bet I win Cool Face

Seriously though, to fuck up linux you'd have to actively delete or edit files. To fuck up windows you just need to run a suspicious exe, insert a usb stick, etc...
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 19:23    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
Areius wrote:
Shall we do a battle between how easy you can fuck up an OS? You try to fuck up Windows, I'll do Linux. I'll guarantee I can fuck Linux up in 1-2 seconds. Try that on Windows.

If you let me preconfigure the linux I bet I win Cool Face

Nope, just the default. This is exactly the problem with Linux. Sure, you can hack everything you want in it, but most users do not want to do that.

Mentioning root access is another nice thing. Sure, you don't need root access all the time but if you ever need to do something other than starting a simple thing you'll pretty much need root anyway. The whole access rights system in Linux is awful. And then you need to add some shit package that needs root and is horribly configured and you, again, need root to change something. Or the package that you just installed fucks up something that results in an unbootable system. I've encountered it all. One fucked up config file? Nah, let's not use defaults if the config file is empty or filled with rubbish but just prevent the OS from booting. It's not that I do not know anything about Linux (I run two Linux boxes at the moment) but it's a truly awful OS.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 19:58    Post subject:
Well, I need root access all the time in fucking Linux.
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OS without DirectX = pointless for gamers.

It sucks, but it is ultimately the truth.


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2015 01:40    Post subject:
+1

and steamos will not change anything unless they pay devs so much money to support opengl/vulkan or whatever only. but that wont happen cause of the consoles
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2015 04:38    Post subject:
@Areius that walk of text you wrote just sounds like noob user. Its okay stick to windows where they have protected you from yourself and you can't access 90% of the OS where there is a risk you can break your install.

Either way, I'm not trying to sell it, but don't go making stuff up because of your inability to make it work.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2015 09:20    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
@Areius that walk of text you wrote just sounds like noob user. Its okay stick to windows where they have protected you from yourself and you can't access 90% of the OS where there is a risk you can break your install.

Either way, I'm not trying to sell it, but don't go making stuff up because of your inability to make it work.

I have plenty of experience on Linux and if you read the "walk" of text you should've noticed that it's not the user but the OS and the software on it. You cannot blame the user for shitty defaults and horribly coded stuff. But I know that the Linux lovers out there will never (even slightly) agree on this and it's always the fault of the user. It's of course never a problem with the OS so I'll leave it at this.


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2015 10:22    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
I have plenty of experience on Linux and if you read the "walk" of text you should've noticed that it's not the user but the OS and the software on it. You cannot blame the user for shitty defaults and horribly coded stuff. But I know that the Linux lovers out there will never (even slightly) agree on this and it's always the fault of the user. It's of course never a problem with the OS so I'll leave it at this.


This is exactly why i called you out because what your saying there is laughably wrong to a seasoned Linux user. Guess all the services you use everyday, the world banks, stock exchanges and technology veterans fueling lxc and docker (future of technology as we know it) have it all wrong.

Janz wrote:
+1 and steamos will not change anything unless they pay devs so much money to support opengl/vulkan or whatever only. but that wont happen cause of the consoles


PS4, Nintendo, Android and iOS use DirectX? Getting rid of MS's stranglehold on PC gaming would be better for everyone.. Those 50% performance boost from DX12 should be enraging you as a screwed over MS customer, what has MS done for you as a gamer in the last decade?
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2015 11:09    Post subject:
who cares about fucking casual shit like nintendo, ios or android? xboner uses dx12 with the newest update in autumn, win 12 uses it. and ps4 uses some proprietary shit from sony (forgot its name).
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