Recommend me a great 4x Space Strategy game.
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northern7




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:44    Post subject: Recommend me a great 4x Space Strategy game.
Looking for a terrific 4x space strategy game. Must have really good fleet vs fleet tactical battles (this is of primary importance). Graphics don't have to be perfect, but I don't want pixelated ships though either. I don't want super simple, yet I also don't want to have to read a 50 page manual in order to play as I don't have the time investment for that - so in other words, I guess "medium" complexity. What are your recommendations?

Sins Rebellion? Sword of the Stars (first one - I hear the second one (SOTSII) is still crap)? Galactic Civ II? other?

Thanks for any input. Smile
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Saner




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:46    Post subject:
GalCiv ftw

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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:46    Post subject:
Gal Civ II and Space Empires IV

Now it's over. Smile


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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:48    Post subject:
Never liked the GalCiv games. Though if you're not looking for complexity, I suppose they might fit your bill.
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:55    Post subject:
Maybe give StarDrive a try. Apart from a somewhat annoying GUI (constant zooming with mouse wheel) it's a pretty solid and engaging game.


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northern7




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:55    Post subject:
Saner wrote:
GalCiv ftw

Thread over.


Just watched a vid of some space battles - what the hell is that giant robot like ship that seems to shoot from its penis??!?? pls tell me it is a custom design. If not, LMFAO!

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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:59    Post subject:
Pax Imperia 2


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 17:59    Post subject:
Master of Orion 2

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northern7




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:13    Post subject:
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Smile

Pax Imperia I will rule out almost immediately. Combat looks atrocious.
Master Of Orion 2 (actually have this but haven't played it yet) - looks better than above, but was hoping for a bit of a graphical upgrade in the ship-to-ship combat - haven't rule it out.
Galatic Civ II - looking into - might fit the bill for me (?)
Space Empires V - will look into. More complex than Galatic Civ II?
Star Drive - reading suggests it is ridiculously complex.

if the combat doesn't do it for me, then everything else falls apart - what is the point in exploring, research, ship design, diplomacy, etc, if the fleet combat sucks. Quite the anti-climax as far as I am concerned. Any ways, that is my point of view.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:19    Post subject:
northern7 wrote:
Saner wrote:
GalCiv ftw

Thread over.

pls tell me it is a custom design. If not, LMFAO!


1st 10 seconds of the video gives you your answer. . . .
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northern7




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:20    Post subject:
Big_Gun wrote:
northern7 wrote:
Saner wrote:
GalCiv ftw

Thread over.

pls tell me it is a custom design. If not, LMFAO!


1st 10 seconds of the video gives you your answer. . . .

hahaha - my bad...skipped ahead too quickly. Very Happy
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:22    Post subject:
I meant this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Imperia:_Eminent_Domain



and yes, Master of Orion 2 is AN ABSOLUTE MUST BE PLAYED GAME


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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:28    Post subject:
Love MoO2, but I'd argue MoO1 has more longevity. That's the game I keep replaying when I need my 4x fix. That or Distant Worlds or modded-to-hell MoO3.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:53    Post subject:
Endless Space, Star Trek: Birth of the Federation ( probably best MOO clone out there ).

P.S.: and yeah MOO 2 is kind of mandatory.
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northern7




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:57    Post subject:
Dam, I want a 4x version of this!:



...I believe it doesn't have the diplomacy, exploration, empire building though. Crying or Very sad
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zmed




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:58    Post subject:
Imperium Galactica 2

Oldie but goldie.
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blackdochia




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 19:17    Post subject:
Or Nexus!
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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 19:19    Post subject:
Nexus is awesome, but certainly not 4x.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 19:25    Post subject:
In case one doesn't cares about graphics at all (seriously, MoO1 looks like Crysis to this one), he will always find one of the most complex 4x games in Stars!.


http://wiki.starsautohost.org/wiki/Main_Page

Contains everything you'll need to get it going. Full game download, instructions on how to get it working on modern comps, utilities and offcourse, excel spreadsheets.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:08    Post subject:
Endless Space is good, but AI can be tough to beat Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:20    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
Imperium Galactica 2

Oldie but goldie.

+1


I can also recommend Haegemonia: Legions of Iron & Solon Heritage by the same developers. Although it has more RTS elements (~Sins), it still fulfilled my MOO/4x hunger; The pacing is not too fast and you can pause/adjust time speed. So sad the devs stopped making space games, they clearly had a talent for it.

Haegemonia had one of the best looking explosions in a space game at the time (especially stations). The battles felt epic because ships were tough and not made of paper. Building a battle space station next to a warp gate was fun and an effective way to block systems.

The music was also pretty good.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:21    Post subject:
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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:22    Post subject:
Clever.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:31    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
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LRavenwing




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 20:56    Post subject:
Go for Sword of The Stars. It is medium to low complexity on strategy layer and great fun in battles.

Stardrive is pretty simple apart from designing ships, which is a lot of fun. One thing that puts me off there is that everything is real time and larger empires get really hard to control.
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briangw




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 21:42    Post subject:
Can't go wrong with the Matrix games, i.e. Distant Worlds and its expansions. Also Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion is a lot of fun.
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LuftBrada




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 22:19    Post subject:
Sins of solar empire serie is great imo. Theres some newer dlcs for Rebellion which is already very nice.
Endless Space is more strategy and less space, battles are very restricted.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 23:06    Post subject:
http://www.bundlestars.com/all-bundles/ultimate-sci-fi-bundle/ dont know if sword of stars 2 ever got good, i never did get into the first one but this budle pretty much pays for itself wow
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 23:15    Post subject:
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend Endless Space, it's way too bland and generic. Got bored with it very quickly. Everything is so restricted (you don't really fight the battles but draw 3 cards, and space travel is along set courses) and in general you don't really feel 'connected' with your empire.

I played ES at around the same time as StarDrive, and the difference is pretty big. SD is a much better and lasting game (out of those two).


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 23:21    Post subject:
Sword of The Stars II. Theres really no issues with it any more.


Seriously though, Star Trek: Birth of The Federation. Download
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