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LeoNatan
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Werelds
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Nope. If Intel get back to their flawless execution before IB though, it's gonna be a good one for mobile products. As always, interesting article on Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture
For desktop, I don't think we should be expecting any huge advances like with the initial Core architecture anymore, although I suspect that we'll finally see Intel going for higher clocks.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2012 20:11 Post subject: |
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"Nope" for what? No news on release date? No release early 2013?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2012 20:14 Post subject: |
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No news on release date. It's still "H1 2013".
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2012 20:15 Post subject: |
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Too long. I want to upgrade this box here, but don't want to throw cash on an Ivy Bridge.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Too long. I want to upgrade this box here, but don't want to throw cash on an Ivy Bridge. |
Well theres the AMD Piledriver then. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 00:17 Post subject: |
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Just get an iDesktop, you know you want to 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 00:18 Post subject: |
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Q2 2013 for now (May/June most probably).
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 00:24 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | Just get an iDesktop, you know you want to |
The fuck has that anything to do with it? Mac or not, they use similar Intel components (the Mini uses laptop components). I am getting tired of your failed attempts at trolling. At least attempt to do it properly or make it funny. 
Enough is enough. |
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 10:19 Post subject: |
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Throw cash at a Sandy Bridge then...don't think you have much options if you want to upgrade.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 10:57 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | The fuck has that anything to do with it? Mac or not, they use similar Intel components (the Mini uses laptop components). I am getting tired of your failed attempts at trolling. At least attempt to do it properly or make it funny.
Enough is enough. |
That's proper enough for me.
If it's not up to your standards you can always use the report button.
And you are getting tired of someone else's (sucessful or not) trolling?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Slizza
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 12:06 Post subject: |
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Sandy (i5/i7) = cooler, easier to OC
Ivy (i5/i7) = hotter, nominal differences, mostly the integrated 4000-series GPU. It's hotter because Intel cheaped out on the glue bonding the cover with the silicon.
There was something else.. more memory channels on a high end X79 board or something like that?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 14:30 Post subject: |
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The problem with upgrading to either means upgrading to a basically useless socket, doomed motherboard, and perhaps even memory. I also like what I am reading about Haswell, so I will upgrade to that as well. I'll probably wait it out.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 14:43 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | The problem with upgrading to either means upgrading to a basically useless socket, doomed motherboard, and perhaps even memory. I also like what I am reading about Haswell, so I will upgrade to that as well. I'll probably wait it out. |
This will be the case for all platforms for the foreseeable future. So you are left waiting for the next generation that has the same fate.
You should be fine waiting though, it's not like your I7 930 is not up to the job anymore.
USB 3.0 and Sata 6gbps and UEFI bios/overclocking etc where extra incentives to get me to switch.
Performance alone was not so much a concern as the i7 920 like the 930 is still a good chip to use. If you are happy to wait then do that, but if you really feel the itch to change you will not be disappointed if you did so now.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 14:53 Post subject: |
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Well, with Haswell platform, there is a good chance that Broadwell will be compatible.
I run the 930 at 4.0GHz, but I am not very content with its performance lately.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 15:28 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Well, with Haswell platform, there is a good chance that Broadwell will be compatible. |
Yes but how big is the probability that you are going to upgrade from Haswell to Broadwell? It would be like upgrading from Sandy to Ivy, which does not make sense really. And Skylake which will probably (speculation) use yet another socket, will be out in 3 years.
I did the jump from Q9550 to i5 3570K and I dont regret it. But with the 930, I'd probably have waited out Haswell.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 16:19 Post subject: |
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Well, that's what I will probably do anyway.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2012 06:13 Post subject: |
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20121122022244_Intel_s_Haswell_Could_Be_Last_Interchangeable_Desktop_Microprocessors_Report.html
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Both Intel and Advanced Micro Devices supply two different desktop platforms these days, making a very clear difference between mainstream and high-end desktop. Still, mainstream PCs with simplistic processors may easily be upgraded with very fast processors thanks to the fact that the chips are interchangeable and come in the same LGA1155 form-factor. Unfortunately, the ease of upgrade may come to an end in two years as starting from Broadwell generation of central processing units (CPUs) mainstream chips will cease to use land grid array (LGA) and micro pin grid array (ยตPGA) packages and will only be available in in ball grid array (BGA) form-factors, just like Intel Atom processors.
According to Japanese PC Watch web-site, code-named Haswell microprocessors may be the last desktop chips in LGA packaging, which enabled easy switch of CPUs on mainboards. Starting from Broadwell chips, which are due in 2014, all mainstream desktop processors will be available in BGA packaging, which means that they will have to be soldered to mainboards, something that can be done in relatively sophisticated manufacturing facilities.
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While mainstream chips will reportedly be only supplied in BGA form-factors soldered to mainboards, which eliminates upgrade possibility, it is likely that high-end desktop (HEDT) platforms will still be supplied in LGA packaging. What remains to be seen is how expensive will such chips be. For example, at present the most affordable LGA2011 HEDT chip costs $294, whereas the most expensive performance-mainstream LGA1155 processor costs $332. In case upgradeable platforms remain on the HEDTโs price levels of today, that will essentially mean the end of upgrades of the mainstream PCs.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2012 06:23 Post subject: |
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problem is intel pretty much releases new socket or chipset along with new CPU architectures every year, so its not like the old days where you could buy top of the line CPU and upgrade to a new one a year later without switching mobo. AMD shows its perfectly feasable to do.
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Dec 2012 17:55 Post subject: |
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lacking vt d on top models?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 19:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 20:02 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 20:05 Post subject: |
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Fail trolling is fail. I enjoy SteamDRM's trolling.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 20:45 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | hmm not entirely true? one intel socket lasts good 2-3 years. after that, would you really want to buy a brand new top of the line cpu and stick it in your dated 4 year old mobo and 4 year old ram? i think it's stupid to whine that you can't use very old mobos for new cpus. |
I must be imagining the 11-month lifespan of my S1156 then. Last 1156 product was a crappy entry-level dual core in August 2010, socket was introduced in September 2009.
And yes, I would like to stick a Sandy bridge on my motherboard; right now, the following "benefits" of "better" motherboards are still pretty useless, as they give no real-world advantages unless you shell out extra cash to get devices that use them: PCI-E 3.0, Thunderbolt, USB 3. The only thing that I would find even mildly interesting is SATA 3. |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 21:43 Post subject: |
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S1156 is exception, not a rule. S1155 lasts a long time, and upcoming S1150 should have similar life span as well
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 21:46 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | master troll is tired of getting trolled
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Fail trolling is fail. I enjoy SteamDRM's trolling. |
What a load of hypocritical shit
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Anyway impressive for integrated CPU GPU 
