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DV2




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2014 21:55    Post subject: PSU Suggestions
A friend of mine has a Thermaltake Toughpower 700W PSU and told me that it's PSU is still alive and kicking with a high end setting.

Where i live at these doesn't sell over here anymore..or unless they've changed their looks or name or something.

I wanted to get a Thermaltake one too that'd be future proof (+700W) but also MODULAR with LOOOONG cables (probably for future Tower change into a damn bigger one with cable management..you know, to reach everything without being strained or tense ^^; )

..just NO SLI usage....

i've read some good reviews on it on Newegg yet some very few users seems to dislike them

The following Price Listing PDF is from one of the most popular shops in Barcelona where they sell them (along with another one yet the other one misses the Thermaltake brand from the PL'ing)

Page 4 http://neobytebcn.com/tarifa.pdf

What do you guys think?..Worth it?

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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2014 23:01    Post subject:
you dont need 700W+ PSU for future usage, especially if its only single GPU. Get something like in 500W range Platinum rated (Rosewill/Seasonic).
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DV2




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2014 23:26    Post subject:
And if it had to be SLI, would what i mentioned be worth it?

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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 01:33    Post subject:
I keep saying, Wattage (XXXW) is less important when buying any PSU.

'RAILS' are what matters most, and more specifically, what meets your requirements.

Small example:

950W PSU - 45A 12v / 30A 5v / 15A 3v

700W PSU - 80A 12v / 45A 5v / 20A 3v

Which is better?

Answer is the 700W model, and nothing to do with wattage, but because it delivers the required amps on each rail, 12v, 5v, and 3v, but the 12v rail being the most important delivery route for power in any PC.

Never EVER scrimp on a PSU, as it will cause more headaches than you can imagine when building your own system.

Get the correct PSU to supply the correct AMPS on what components you have in your system, always leaving a little overhead, more so if your overclocking.

Never assume that because your buying a megaWATT PSU, that its the best, as more often, its not Wink
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 07:24    Post subject:
Once again, would the TT ones (SLI) i've mentioned up above will work out or should i look at an specific TT model?.. Would this work (i know it's 850W but i think there wasn't of 700W at one of the shops)

http://es.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001830

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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 19:45    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Once again, would the TT ones (SLI) i've mentioned up above will work out or should i look at an specific TT model?.. Would this work (i know it's 850W but i think there wasn't of 700W at one of the shops)

http://es.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001830


Once again, look at the output specs on that model:



Good 70A 12v rail there, but is it enough for your requirements?

Run your spec through the PSU calculator below to get an idea of what's required, adding in some overhead, more so if you plan to overclock.

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Bear in mind the notation on that page if your not using the Pro version:

Quote:
The recommended total Power Supply Wattage gives you a general idea on what to look for BUT it is NOT a crucial factor in power supply selection! Total Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important, followed by the +5V amperage and then the +3.3V amperage.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 20:45    Post subject:
i putted 2 760GTX Ti and it went up to 513W

Still, the PSU is good enough for whatever future, hard OC'ing and upgrades,right?.. Sorry if i'm stucked with that PSU but it's what we barely have in quality over here =.=;;

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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 20:50    Post subject:
Just get this Laughing



Their new lineup, they have 1700w model -.-
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 20:58    Post subject:
YOU BEAST XDDD....nah grinhurt

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DV2




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Apr 2014 02:06    Post subject:
seems TT released another model http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2014/03/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Gold-004.jpg

Special for cable management (No "net" around the cables, and the cables are now flat), specially for my next tower case upgrade i wanna do , the Thermaltake Core V71. (on April 21st)

And i've been checking Corsairs at an online shop and they have very similar AMPS ..sadly

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Apr 2014 18:34    Post subject:
Why not Seasonic, Corsair AX (Seasonic) / AX..i (Flextronics), XFX (Seasonic) or Super Flower?

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DV2




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Apr 2014 21:03    Post subject:
Because we don't have those Seasonic ones on online shops.

The Corsair i dunno..I've Read bad reviews of DOA or "Booms" or Dead after 5 weeks or "Coil Whine" : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139044 , though it looks nice, it has "Fish nets" at the cables that might difficult the flexibility inside the Core V71's side panel holes for management.

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 12:45    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Because we don't have those Seasonic ones on online shops.

The Corsair i dunno..I've Read bad reviews of DOA or "Booms" or Dead after 5 weeks or "Coil Whine" : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139044 , though it looks nice, it has "Fish nets" at the cables that might difficult the flexibility inside the Core V71's side panel holes for management.


Some of Corsairs (Seasonic units) have coil whine issue but you can always replace them due good warranty policy. If you can get Super Flower and you are good to go. Just make sure you don't pick some of the models with crappy Chinese caps.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 12:58    Post subject:
They sure do look ugly @@;...

Some?, in what percentage of failures?,that's what is kinda making me draw back from them (Corsair) and go back to TT @@;..i don't like the "returning stuff",specially when it's about online shops

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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 13:47    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
They sure do look ugly @@;...

Some?, in what percentage of failures?,that's what is kinda making me draw back from them (Corsair) and go back to TT @@;..i don't like the "returning stuff",specially when it's about online shops


Read a bit about them as I ordered a PSU from them. If you try them, make sure you get a Golden/Platinum King or the ones with the 14cm fans, those have Japanese caps, as opposed to HX series which have chinese caps.



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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 13:56    Post subject:
http://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair_ax860_860w_80_plus_platinum.html

This is the only Corsair AX860 we have on the online shop, you can explore if you wish

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 16:20    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
http://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair_ax860_860w_80_plus_platinum.html

This is the only Corsair AX860 we have on the online shop, you can explore if you wish


AX860 is made by Seasonic. It's based on P-860.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 16:58    Post subject:
Dunno what that means @@;

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 17:02    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Dunno what that means @@;


AX860 is probably 99,999% same PSU as this one http://www.anandtech.com/show/5464/seasonic-platinum-series-860w/6
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 17:13    Post subject:
but still, high failure rates

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 17:39    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
but still, high failure rates


Still way better than any other crap that shop is selling.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 19:26    Post subject:
Well, will give it a shot then once i get the chance and the Case in my hands. Thanks...and no, don't close this topic,Please.

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Apr 2014 14:16    Post subject:
Btw stay away from those Spanish crap PSU:s (L-Link, Fuentes etc...) that shop is selling....

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcria-o-teu-avatar.blogspot.fi%2F2013%2F06%2Favaria-domestica.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mur3.com%2F%3Fp%3D5130&sandbox=1


ps. Keep Out doesn't even have a physical address on their website. Rolling Eyes ...and what a name for PSU manufacturer. Laughing
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Apr 2014 15:21    Post subject:
This is the online shop's PSU's we have and it's very reliable. Bought a cable from there and in 2 working days it came perfectly http://www.pccomponentes.com/fuentes_alimentacion.html

At the left there's the filter options (brand,quality,Watts..) to mess with

For example, Corsair http://www.pccomponentes.com/fuentes_alimentacion-corsair.html

TT has a PSU Calculator grinhurt,but there are other shops that sells the Toughpower 750W 80+GOLD for nearly 120€ in total,wich's a big deal for the buck...or something

I appreciate the help and all, really but Sorry about the Corsair, but i don't wanna sacrifice +150€ for the wine coil thing's suffering.

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Apr 2014 22:33    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
This is the online shop's PSU's we have and it's very reliable. Bought a cable from there and in 2 working days it came perfectly http://www.pccomponentes.com/fuentes_alimentacion.html

At the left there's the filter options (brand,quality,Watts..) to mess with

For example, Corsair http://www.pccomponentes.com/fuentes_alimentacion-corsair.html

TT has a PSU Calculator grinhurt,but there are other shops that sells the Toughpower 750W 80+GOLD for nearly 120€ in total,wich's a big deal for the buck...or something

I appreciate the help and all, really but Sorry about the Corsair, but i don't wanna sacrifice +150€ for the wine coil thing's suffering.


Tacens -> Leadman (OEM)

Check them out:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=71

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=71

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=71

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcria-o-teu-avatar.blogspot.fi%2F2013%2F06%2Favaria-domestica.html

Pure quality! Wink


ps. Corsair's CX-series apart from discontinued CX400 (Seasonic) are medicore at the best. Wink
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DV2




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Apr 2014 00:05    Post subject:
might get the AX860 in the end...but that close to the April 21st, date where the Core V71 comes

Will kill if the AX860 comes defective...

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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 07:21    Post subject:
Got the AX860... No problems on first boot up, no coil wine,no explosions...Hope it lasts

Reason (Check vid's description)

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