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 Posted: Sun, 13th Apr 2014 07:34 Post subject: Dell monitor gamma setting and xbox 360 |
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I want to replay some of my older 360 titles like gow trilogy, saints row1 etc etc etc but The blacks are crushed to hell.
On my old 226bw, I just had to enable expanded in 360 settings and it was ok as far as I remember (maybe I remember wrong). Was using the same vga cable as I am using now.
Here on my u2312hm (I have it for year now and its a great display. Just not played 360 more than once last year so...) I also set 360 to "expanded" setting and every black/shadow is crushed. On standard setting it's all wrong the other way around.
I know that expanded means full rgb range and standard is limited, so it seems that I want to use full rgb setting for my u2312hm but why it's too dark then ?
Then i've noticed there is a gamma setting in that display's osd. I can switch gamma to pc and mac. those are only two gamma options. but should the pc setting (which is selected) be a right option? The monitor is set to accept PC range and 360 is set to expanded to send that.
And here comes interesting part. Setting this gamma to "mac" option seems to help with crushed blacks , while maintaining "black-is-black"
so??? what am I doing worng
btw. How to get best blacks/calibration out of tht monitor?
and what are right settings for my old 720p lg hdtv I have? standard or expanded?
WHY THE FUCK THERE ARE 2 Standards at all.. everything should be full rgb. There is no point to having limited 16-235 screens... it only introduces problems and confusion as I see it's a major problem. most people don't have their tv's or monitors set correctly, corresponding to the signal the device is sending and are either playing on too dark or washed out screens.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Apr 2014 13:15 Post subject: |
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I feel you. I get the same problems and more.
My son's xbox 32 inch old style tv and gaming looks for some reason better at times than my 32 bravia. It seems more so in games like bf4 etc, where I know the quality is a ton less texture wise but it looks worse if thats possible on mine than his lol.
I can never seem to get shit to look correct, its like everything is more down scaled than it should be as well. Like even though no AA his models look less AA'd than mine.
sort of gave up and just accepted it over time ...
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W123
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2014 05:56 Post subject: |
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You're using VGA? Why? What happens when you hdmi? As far as your monitor goes, your settings sound correct. What happens when you raise the brightness in the ingame menu?
Maybe some games are not meant for 0-255 and instead the devs intended 16-235?
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2014 06:35 Post subject: |
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Maybe. But its not only on old games. Dark souls1 is also crushed and it wasnt on my old 226bw.
and i am using vga because dell dont have hdmi input and pc takes dvi.
but its all also crushed whe i am using hdmi cable to connect to tv. Maybe thats because I connected into pc labeled hdmi input on tv... will check later.
that way or another yeah... it was always a chire with those black levels for me. There is option in 360 for that but as You said, each game migh have separate black levels from 360 setting which shoukd not be the case but prolly is
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:54 Post subject: |
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so? Anyone figured it out? Not sure what the deal is.
I have expanded in console, tv and momitor set to pc levels. And games are too dark. at least old games which is weird. like gta iv and dark souls or gears of war1.
btw. Is standard and expanded on xbox360 equal to 1.8 and 2.2 gamme (pc and mac) ?
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Apr 2014 13:00 Post subject: |
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Found the answer!
http://filmicgames.com/archives/14
Gamma on 360 is not real 2.2. In fact it is faked 2.2 without proper curve. That's why it dont really look correct on any setting.
And when it comes to old game - they are too dark on expanded setting because they come from time when 360 only option was standard and then so they are premade darker to fit 1.8 gamma
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