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fisk
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 Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 13:42 Post subject: When is rape OK? |
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| Quote: | During a poll of high school students, Jacquieline Goodchilds asked the following question: "Is it all right if a male holds a female down an physically forces her to have sex if..."
Conditions / Percentages of "yes"-responses (Male vs. Female)
He spent a lot of money on her? (M:39% F: 12%)
He is so turned on he thinks he can't stop? (M: 36 F: 21%)
She has had sexual intercourse with other guys? (M: 39% F: 18%)
She is stoned or drunk? (M: 39% F: 18%)
She lets him touch her above the waist (M: 39% F: 28%)
She is going to go and then changes her mind (M: 54% F: 31%)
She has led him on? (M: 54% F: 26%)
She gets him excited sexually (M: 51% F: 42%)
They have dated for a long time? (M: 43% F: 32%)
Jacqueline Goodchilds, www.fearus.org |
What are your thoughts?
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 13:46 Post subject: |
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wat @ results
Only okay when it's a rapist being anally raped in prison.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 13:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 13:54 Post subject: |
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Honestly what the fuck is wrong with people?
She gets him excited sexually (M: 51% F: 42%)
So if a girl teases a guy he is allowed to rape her? Clearly I am out of touch with society.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:09 Post subject: |
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Absolutely insane justifications, there are none of those who constitutes a rape attempt, since rape is... well... WRONG
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:16 Post subject: |
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never.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:17 Post subject: |
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zmed
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:22 Post subject: |
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zmed
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:24 Post subject: |
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Seriously. What they flying fuck. It only shows that idiotic idea that men are unable to control themselves sexually is way too widespread.
She flirted with him? IT WAS HER FAULT! THE MAN WAS TOTALLY BLAMELESS! Since...you know...he can't control himself.
Fucked up people are fucked up.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:30 Post subject: |
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Yeah, never, and I'm getting tired of reading RAPE everywhere, RAPE RAPE RAPE.
For months now (it started with that incident in India), there is an unusually increased focus of media on rape scenarios.
People are so bombarded with information it causes a constant mental availability of this concept and they start seeing rape connections where there actually are none. (e.g. Killer Instinct demo on E3)
There is a special name for this, when media gives one certain topic a special attention and it causes people to believe the probability of this and that incidence is higher than everything else. If there is an increased reporting of plane crashes for example, people will think travel by air is much more dangerous and change their behaviour accordingly.
There are all kinds of studies about this phenomenon.
Is this the new paedophilia? You know what that did to many americans, a lot of them are now afraid to make any contact with children, because due to to increased reporting, they got the impression that everyone is a potential pedo.
"Get those things away from me!" (Bill Burr)
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Neon
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 14:42 Post subject: |
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Rape is OK and good when it's a 24-year-old woman raping a 16-year-old girl, then it's a "positive, healing experience (...). It was a good rape" 
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In 2000, Robert Swope, a conservative contributor to a Georgetown University newspaper, The Hoya, wrote an article critical of the Vagina Monologues. He suggested there was a contradiction between the promotion of rape awareness on V-Day and the monologue "The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could", in which an adult woman recalls being given alcohol and statutorily raped at 16 by a 24-year-old woman as a positive, healing experience, ending the segment with the proclamation "It was a good rape." Swope also noted the double standards involved, asking "why is rape only wrong when a man commits it, but when it's by a woman committed against another woman, who just happens to be 16-years-old, it is celebrated and a university club sponsors it? |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 15:55 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 15:55 Post subject: |
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"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 16:26 Post subject: |
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Don't care. If a girl teases and arouses someone to the point she got raped, she got what she deserved. Not saying i would do it, in fact i would not. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the victim either though.
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't care. If a girl teases and arouses someone to the point she got raped, she got what she deserved. Not saying i would do it, in fact i would not. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the victim either though. |
Can 't say Im surprised you wrote such ridicilous bullshit
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 16:44 Post subject: |
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Did anyone actually bother to follow the link in the op?`
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 16:50 Post subject: |
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Stormwolf is not alone in his way of thinking, in fact they did a study in Norway... that got blown out of proportion as usual. The study was about just that woman and provocative clothing. About 50% of men thought it was their own fault that they got raped. NOT that they would have raped them themselves. More like, don't go around teasing guys like that, at least not at parties when alcohol is involved.
I personally don't agree tho... but I get why some people think that way.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:08 Post subject: |
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never
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:12 Post subject: |
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You stole this idea from meeeeeeeeeeeee! Anyway I already knew this but still scary.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:16 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't care. If a girl teases and arouses someone to the point she got raped, she got what she deserved. Not saying i would do it, in fact i would not. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the victim either though. |
You are an idiot. Imbecile.
I am not debating anything with you. I just have a fact. Deal with it. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:19 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't care. If a girl teases and arouses someone to the point she got raped, she got what she deserved. Not saying i would do it, in fact i would not. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the victim either though. |
You are an idiot. Imbecile.
I am not debating anything with you. I just have a fact. Deal with it. |
Yeah, everyone with different opinions than the "great" fucking inatan is an imbecile. I bet you're too fucking bone headed to figure out one example of where i would say "She got what she asked for".
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:44 Post subject: |
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You can look at it from an unrealistic point of view and just say "raping is bad, full stop and women are never to blame for it" or you can be realistic, realize there's guys out there that think with their dick, and educate girls on how they should behave and what they shouldn't do.
Some girls pretend to be sluts, get guys to spend a small fortune in drinks on them, and when it comes down to it, let the guys down and have a good laugh about how gullible they were. It has become a game for some to get as many free drinks and as much free crap without "putting out" leaving a sexually frustrated guy behind who feels wronged. Now, gee, I wonder why that guy would use rape to get back at her? 
Bottom line: I don't condone rape, but women shouldn't be vicious bitches and manipulate horny guys either - I can't see I'd feel sorry if women like that do get raped. It's a harsh lesson to learn, but life lessons often are.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:44 Post subject: |
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Speaking of rape...my gf's friend has had a rather unusually bad week. First she got dumped by her boyfriend for another guy (!), then she almost got raped in the park by 2 guys and now (just 3 days after she got dumped) it turns out she's got cancer.
I know I should not laugh...but its too much NOT to laugh about.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:47 Post subject: |
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That was exactly what i meant, it's just that i always say stuff in too few words. And no girls should be afraid of being raped just from her choice in clothing.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:47 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | Speaking of rape...my gf's friend has had a rather unusually bad week. First she got dumped by her boyfriend for another guy (!), then she almost got raped in the park by 2 guys and now (just 3 days after she got dumped) it turns out she's got cancer.
I know I should not laugh...but its too much NOT to laugh about. |
Rather unusually bad week? That's one way of putting it.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:50 Post subject: |
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| xxax wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | Speaking of rape...my gf's friend has had a rather unusually bad week. First she got dumped by her boyfriend for another guy (!), then she almost got raped in the park by 2 guys and now (just 3 days after she got dumped) it turns out she's got cancer.
I know I should not laugh...but its too much NOT to laugh about. |
Rather unusually bad week? That's one way of putting it. |
Yeah
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What about provocative clothing?
