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 Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 16:44 Post subject: Got the results from my blood-checkup |
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My thyroid value is not really good I guess. It's at 3,56 (TSH). also my cholesterol is too low (HDL 28 )....
I guess that explains my depressions lately :/
fuck?
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 16:53 Post subject: |
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*snip*
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 16:55 Post subject: |
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Hypothyreosis maybe (under-producing thyroid gland)?
There are other thyroid values to take into account.. T3, T4 etc... If you do have hypothyreosis it just means you're going to pop a pill once a day with thyroid hormones and the rest of the life will be normal. Not sure about the cholesterol though. There are good and bad cholesterol and I don't know what levels are good or not.
Anyway, low levels of thyroid hormone indeed cause symptoms like depression, slow bowel movements, tiredness.. basically a slowing down of the metabolism in the body (including excretion and reuptake of serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine).
Get a doctors appointment (if you don't have one already) and solve the issue.
I take 125 micrograms of Euthyrox every day since I have hypothyreosis.
ps. hypothyreosis is one of the mildest chronical illnesses you can have. If you take you pills (if that is what you need/have) your life wont' change one bit, you won't get any issues down the road etc..
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 16:57 Post subject: |
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You have to get examined for Hashimoto's thyroiditis, if that's not the cause of the TSH being low, yeah, a pill a day will fix you up really good.
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 17:04 Post subject: |
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bah sorry to hear that buddy, but it could always be worse no?
Just got my annual blood work done yesterday, now the 2 week wait for result begins.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 17:20 Post subject: |
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lol, we get results next work day..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 19:06 Post subject: |
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I think you are completely normal. Our reference ranges for TSH is 0.3 - 5.5.
I don't understand your Chol value. Chol/HDL ratio?. Is that not mmol/L ? I don't work with results tho so talk to your doctor
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 19:55 Post subject: |
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Don't you have a doctor to interpret these things? The HDl value is mg/dL, it's low I guess (HDL is the "good" kind, but the LDL/HDL ratio is more important). You'll probably get statins and the doc will advice exercise. What exactly is the problem with your TSH? Did your doctor comment on it or did you just speculate?
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 20:27 Post subject: |
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The TSH value is the one that sort of controls the amount of thyroid activity. If it's lower than it's supposed to, symptoms fitting hypothyreosis may. The T4 value shows where your levels currently are. If the T4 is low as well, a low/high TSH may be the reason (there's a pseudo-paradox here). But thyroid issues and all the different hormones and control substances makes it rather complex. I overdosed on my Euthyrox for a while (don't ask why) and got some serious side effects from that, very uncomfortable. After I had gone back to normal dose my T4 value had returned to normal but my TSH was still lower than normal (I take thyroid value tests regularly) since it takes time for it to adapt to a lower level of thyroid hormone in the body and change to balance it.
TSH literally means thyroid stimulating hormone, so it's a control hormone that tells the thyroid gland how much thyroid hormone to produce. A lower than normal TSH means lower levels of thyroid hormone = hypothyreosis. Could be chronic, could be temporary due to diet (we need iodine for the thyroid gland to work properly and eating normal food usually takes care of that. Most salt (and many food stuffs) in Sweden is laced with iodine to avoid metabolic issues.
The range .5 to 3.0 range is average. It's unique to every person depending on the function of the thyroid gland and a doctor should definitely take more blood tests to check T3 and T4 levels.
Good guide to understand how it all works: http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroidbasicsthyroid101/a/confusion.htm
Most important is that they check not only TSH but the actual levels of thyroid hormones T3 and T4 (or Free T3 and Free T4). That's the proper and thorough way to know what's going on.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 20:27 Post subject: |
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I'm aware of what TSH is. I was wondering why he thought that value was bad.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 20:35 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I'm aware of what TSH is. I was wondering why he thought that value was bad. |
If he's been feeling depressed lately it could be an explanation. Something in his metabolic system may have affected the thyroid hormone complex. I actually took a blood test today to check TSH/T3/T4 to see if TSH have normalised since last time when it was too low (ie. my temporarily high levels of T3/T4 signalled to TSH that it should slow down or stop).
Anyway, low or high, get a proper thyroid check up where they check all values to make sure you have normal levels of thyroid hormones in your system.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 23:05 Post subject: |
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Sorry, I was working and couldn't answer. After I've got the results my doc said that we need to a test to figure it out. Tomorrow I'll make an appointment for next week :/
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 23:20 Post subject: |
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I had blood test done few week ago and I finally battle-off Anemia. Had it for about 2-3 years and my cholesterol levels are just just slightly elevated.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 23:35 Post subject: |
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Here T3/T4 won't be tested if the TSH is normal unless you are a special case with a thyroid diagnosis. You can request it and pay for it but it isn't covered by the medical service plan. Thats my little contribution of knowledge.
Such a exciting topic for me. It's my field. I'm the needle sticker tho. And the poo and pee collector. And pee pourer alaquater. And the serum plasma separator, and the patient instruction giver.
I am also the one that yells at you when you flush the urine contrainer I just gave you down the FUCKING TOILET! --In that case I am the plumber caller.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 02:44 Post subject: |
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You wouldn't be paying for any of those tests here either. You have a diagnosis. They would test for T4 because it is medically significant in your case.
Test results are online here as well. Free.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 11:57 Post subject: |
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@Frant: Here in the Netherlands they're trying for years now to implement a digital medical dossier, but everytime something with privacy problems comes up. How did your government solve that?
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| Mister_s wrote: | | @Frant: Here in the Netherlands they're trying for years now to implement a digital medical dossier, but everytime something with privacy problems comes up. How did your government solve that? |
Not sure about the specifics but our journals, test results etc. are stored in a regional medi-database (region called Landstinget, covering a certain area of healthcare). As a patient we can demand blocks so information aren't available to anybody else than my doctor. I have to give consent to anybody else I meet if they want to get access. The only exception is if I end up acutely in the EC and they rapidly need to see my medical status and the meds I may take so they know how to treat me properly.
There's a system in place where nurses etc. get caught snooping on journals that they have no business checking out (ie. they have to log in to get access, and if there's no connection between patient and nurse/whatever a message is generated that someone has been snooping).
Nothing is ever foolproof but I find it's working rather well here. I'm not the paranoid type anyway, I don't have anything to hide. If I ever feel my privacy being violated I'll make a complaint and lock my journals to the persons that should have access.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 15:52 Post subject: |
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That's really cool!
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 06:23 Post subject: |
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[quote="Frant"] | Mister_s wrote: | @Frant:
There's a system in place where nurses etc. get caught snooping on journals that they have no business checking out (ie. they have to log in to get access, and if there's no connection between patient and nurse/whatever a message is generated that someone has been snooping).
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Same here. You have a ID employee number and it records what you pull up or where you go. People have been caught snooping too. Some worker did it to find her ex husbands address and she was caught. I have a girlfriend who worked at the desk and pulled an a xray of an unrelated patient and she got questioned.
At my work I don't believe I could access results of tests. Pretty sure I can't because it is not something I need in order to do my job. Haven't even looked. And won't.
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country. I can log on to the health service for my area and request copies of the results if I wish. Not that it would do me much good since I'm no doctor or nurse that understands the values that well even though I've learnt a lot throughout the years of being poked with needles for various reasons (hypothyreosis, various meds that affect various values etc.).
