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 Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 17:42 Post subject: Building a Gaming pc need advise! |
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Well guys after 5 years it's time to buy a new pc. Because my current pc is an old system it can't play the new games, atleast on med/high resolutions. So I put together a pc using several sites with recommendations. So this is what I got. I want some input, should I change anything? Plus I didn't look at the compability of these parts I chose, it's been a while that I put together a pc. If something is not compatible, could you point it out please? Is it a high end gaming pc as I think it is? My price range is max 2300 euro's.
Intel Core I7 3770K 3.50 Ghz, Boxed, Incl. Videochip, Quad Core
Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE
Asus GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II TOP 2048 MB
Corsair Vengeance 16 GB, PC3-12800, 1600 MHz, 9, Non-ECC, Kit Of 4
Samsung 830 Series 256 GB, S-ATA III / 600, 400 MB's, 520 MB's, 2,5 Inch
Seagate Barracuda7200.10 2TB HDD RTL 2 TB, 7200 Rpm, 64 MB
Asus VE278Q 27 Inch / 68.5 Cm, 2 Ms
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750 Watt, 20+24 Pins
Gelid Tranquillo Rev.2
LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B S-ATA, Bulk
Logitech G9x Laser Mouse USB 2.0
Razer BlackWidow ULTIMATE, Battlefield 3 (Collector's Edition) USB, Qwerty,
Logitech Speaker System Z323 2.1, Zwart
Antec Eleven Hundred
Total price: 2260 euro
So what do you guys think? Btw if someone has a better recommendation than the Antec Eleven Hundred I chose, I'm all ears.
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Slizza
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 18:42 Post subject: |
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I would go for faster rated ram because there are heaps of it available now. 2ghz+ sticks and 8gb is fine, no need for 16.
Wouldn't grab a 27" 1080p TN monitor either. The quality just isn't near as good as you can get.
Would swap out the Blackwidow too.
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 19:06 Post subject: |
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Can you give me recommendations instead of these parts you pointed out?
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Slizza
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 19:39 Post subject: |
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| DevilItachi wrote: | | Can you give me recommendations instead of these parts you pointed out? |
It's hard to go wrong with the ram so long as you choose a decent brand. so just have a look at what's available.
As for the monitor.
This at a similar price point will be Massively better than that Asus screen.
Much more vibrant colours and better viewing angles black/white levels.
And better pixel density making images and text sharper.
The 16:10 aspect ratio is also much better for general PC work apps and net surfing etc thanks to allt he extra vertical pixels in the 1920 x 1200 display.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/24-dell-u2412m-ips-led-monitor-full-hd-dvi-displayport-vga-1920x1200-300cd-m2-10001-8ms-4xusb-hub
For the keyboard there are a whole heap of better boards now. I like corsairs K60.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-vengeance-k60-performance-fps-mechanical-gaming-keyboard
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 19:40 Post subject: |
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didn't noticed the monitor part... uhh... weak.
Get up to 23" ips 1080p panel.
Like the one I have. It is a great screen. Read reviews
Anything higher needs higher resolution.
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 20:37 Post subject: |
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Thnx for the tips, anything else? Is the cpu & motherboard & videocard the right choices?
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Slizza
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 20:40 Post subject: |
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| DevilItachi wrote: | | Thnx for the tips, anything else? Is the cpu & motherboard & videocard the right choices? |
They are solid choices. You could some cash and grab an I5 3570K for all the difference there is.
You could also grab a reference model GTX680 as the coolers on them are pretty good anyway in terms of noise elvels and temps. But i wouldn't argue against the Asus cooler.
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 20:43 Post subject: |
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Slizza thinking about the future, because I want this system to keep me up to date for 3-4 years, wouldn't the I7 a better choice than the I5?
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Slizza
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 20:55 Post subject: |
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| DevilItachi wrote: | | Slizza thinking about the future, because I want this system to keep me up to date for 3-4 years, wouldn't the I7 a better choice than the I5? |
It's a little faster. Not a lot though, you are only paying for a tiny performance increase. Certainly not enough to make it relevant any longer than the i5.
For the most part the i5 and the i7 aare neck and neck performance wise.
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 22:30 Post subject: |
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what werelds said, and with the money saved get AX gold version of that 750w PSU
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 22:30 Post subject: |
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I see. Werelds what do you mean by ht? Btw im not so knowledgable about hardware so can you give me a recommendation/s for ram?
Btw slizza you reccomended that dell screen. I see that is 24 inch, dont you have something thats bigger , around 27 inch, and same quality?
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 22:54 Post subject: |
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He's talking about hyperthreading, If you don't need eight CPU threads at the same time, don't bother paying extra for it.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 18:06 Post subject: |
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Besthijacker, thnx for the tip. But I don't know anything about overclocking. So doesn't that make it useless for me?
I did some changes. Here are the results.
Intel Core I5 3570K 3.40 GHz, Boxed, Incl. Videochip, Quad Core
GigaByte GA-Z77X-D3H
Corsair Carbide 500R Geen Voeding, Zwart, Wit
Asus GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II TOP 2048 MB
Samsung 830 Series 256 GB, S-ATA III / 600, 400 MB's, 520 MB's, 2,5 Inch
Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11B
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750 Watt, 20+24 Pins
Gelid Tranquillo Rev.2
LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B S-ATA, Bulk
Logitech G9x Laser Mouse USB 2.0
Razer BlackWidow ULTIMATE, Battlefield 3 (Collector's Edition) USB, Qwerty,
Logitech Speaker System Z323 2.1, Zwart
So are those good changes? And I'm still not sure which Ram I should get.
Btw I checked Dell Ultrasharp U2412M and it seems that it is not ideal for gaming. I also checked Dell Ultrasharp U2711, but it's too expensives. So between these two price ranges, which monitor is the best for gaming?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 19:18 Post subject: |
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You don't have to know anything about overclocking, the AI OC systems on current mobos can all do finme overclocks for you. It's always a plus to get a system which you can easily overclock. I actually bought that same mobo and the CPU for my cousin, the UEFI (BIOS) has all the options you need.
I'd advise you to get the Arctic Freezer i30. It's very silent and keeps the temps down considerably compared to the stcok cooler. Should be around 30 euros.
If you name the site you're buying from we can check teh prices.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 19:41 Post subject: |
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You Dutch DevilItachi?
Anyway, Tweakers' best buy guides aren't fully aimed at performance, still limited to a budget 
That said, RAM still has little to no effect on general usage and 4 years from now, it won't matter whether it's DDR3-1333 or 2133 - they're going to be equally "shit" or "good". Personally, if I was building a new system again right now, I still wouldn't go for 2133, because the performance/price ratio is about 1:10 (meaning you pay double for 10% performance or so in reality). I'll leave you some links here to make up your own mind, but suffice it to say that from a performance point of view, you can't really go wrong as long as you stick to a good brand. I only made my point about the CAS latency because I assumed you wanted to squeeze every bit of performance out of your new system.
http://www.techspot.com/article/131-intel-corei7-memory-performance/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/13
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6372/memory-performance-16gb-ddr31333-to-ddr32400-on-ivy-bridge-igp-with-gskill
As for your monitor: you won't find a good 27" monitor for much less than the U2711. As far as 23-24" goes, I'm very satisfied with my Eizos (FS2332 and FS2333) and many people here on the hump have gone with the U2311 and are happy with those. All I can say is to read reviews and avoid TN panels; TN panels just do not look as nice as IPS panels and anyone claiming otherwise has not seen a half-decent IPS panel in action.
Mister_s' point about the cooler is also a good one; the i30 comes out as one of the best in every test out there and it's dirt cheap.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 20:15 Post subject: |
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I'd go with good 1600 RAM (G.Skill or whatever) or possibly 1866.. After 1866 it's all diminishing returns.
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