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thudo
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 Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 19:29 Post subject: Building a Super Workstation.. Price: No real object.. |
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I'm slowly getting my mind around building an exceptional PC workstation (likely my last one as in 5 years we'll all be on dockable hand-helds the way things are going  )
Price for this final kick-butt workstation? No real concern so I have looked around for the specs I need and want to over-clock this motha so this is what I have so-far.
o Intel Core i7-3770K Socket 1155, 3.50Ghz, 8MB L3 Cache, 22nm (Retail Boxed) Gen3 (BX80637I73770K)
o Phanteks PH-TC14PE 5 x 8 mm Dual Heat-Pipes Dual 140 mm Premium Fans and Quiet CPU Cooler with Patented P.A.T.S coating (White)
o ASRock Z77 OC FORMULA Socket 1155 Intel Z77 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 3000+(OC)/2400(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066Mhz 7.1 CH HD Audio GLAN 6x SATAIII 6.0 GB/s 8x USB 3.0 3x PCI-E Slot ATX
o G.SKILL Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10Q-32GTX
o EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4096MB GDDR5 (04G-P4-2690-KR) nVidia GeForce GTX 690 Chipset (1019Mhz) 4096MB GDDR5 (6008Mhz) 3x DVI-I/Mini Display Port PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
o Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5in SATA3 Mdx Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD
o LG BH14NS40 14x Blu-ray Writer, Supports M-Disc, BDXL (128GB), Internal SATA, Black, Retail Box - 14x BD Write, 16x DVD Write, 4MB Buffer
o Silverstone Fortress SST-FT02B-WUSB3.0 ATX Black Aluminum Case w/side Window
o Enermax (EPM1200EWT) Platimax 1200W 80PLUS Platinum Certified Modular Power Supply
o Extras: Scythe "GentleTyphoon" 120 mm Silent Case Fan (D1225C12B5AP-15) Japan Double Ball Bearing Servo 28dBA 58.30CFM 1850RPM
So I'm going from a system that was kick-butt in Aug'06 to this.. yeahh a seriously MASSIVE upgrade from what seems like stone knives and bear skins 
Pick away folks! Thanks everyone!
MSI GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro S 29th Anniversary Intel i7 6820HK @ 4.0Ghz, 32GB DDR4-2133 RAM, 2x256GB Raid0 Toshiba NVMe 2.5 inch PCIe SSD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 OC'ed 200+ Core / 200+ Mem, 17.3 inch LG IPS HD Display @ 75Hz, Intel 7265AC Wifi, Windows 10 Pro BIOS version: .112 EC Firmware version: .105
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 19:34 Post subject: |
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Why not going to 32 GB of RAM?
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thudo
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 19:47 Post subject: |
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Sorry.. Just updated above.. The board was QUAD so got the best 4x8GB ram available
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Ankh
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 05:48 Post subject: |
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thudo
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 15:16 Post subject: |
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Thats over-kill much of that. Sure price is no object but building super-luxury is dumb especially when one needs to consider obsolescence. ie. ASROCK OC board I selected is the fastest there is and has the features I want. I cannot justify $10k+ in this time let alone over $5k+ when the system will be considered old in a couple of years.  Still.. good find Ankh!
MSI GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro S 29th Anniversary Intel i7 6820HK @ 4.0Ghz, 32GB DDR4-2133 RAM, 2x256GB Raid0 Toshiba NVMe 2.5 inch PCIe SSD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 OC'ed 200+ Core / 200+ Mem, 17.3 inch LG IPS HD Display @ 75Hz, Intel 7265AC Wifi, Windows 10 Pro BIOS version: .112 EC Firmware version: .105
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 16:25 Post subject: |
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Wow, so what do you plan to do on this monster? Just gaming or some other stuff, like encoding or sth like that?
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thudo
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 19:40 Post subject: |
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High End 3D/Sound Mixing/Games (LOTS OF GAMES)/Multiple VMs (W7 x64/W8 x64), Compiling Installscripts.. etc etc.. yeah I need POWAHHHHH!!!!!!!!
MSI GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro S 29th Anniversary Intel i7 6820HK @ 4.0Ghz, 32GB DDR4-2133 RAM, 2x256GB Raid0 Toshiba NVMe 2.5 inch PCIe SSD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 OC'ed 200+ Core / 200+ Mem, 17.3 inch LG IPS HD Display @ 75Hz, Intel 7265AC Wifi, Windows 10 Pro BIOS version: .112 EC Firmware version: .105
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thudo
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I'm a s/w packager and deployment consultant ; ) We use stuff like Wise/Installshield/etc to custom deploy vendor installs.. some are 10Gb in size. Faster the system the better.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 12:52 Post subject: |
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@op: the power supply is massive overkill, enermax power supply calculator says 483w for your system, so methinks 700w is enough to be on the safe side. Unless you're planning on getting a second vidcard, of course.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 14:15 Post subject: |
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| Perry Rhodan wrote: | | @op: the power supply is massive overkill, enermax power supply calculator says 483w for your system, so methinks 700w is enough to be on the safe side. Unless you're planning on getting a second vidcard, of course. |
+1 get the corsair 750AX or so
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 14:49 Post subject: |
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If building a workstation, what you doing with GTX 690? You need Nvidia Quadro 6000.
Oh, and 4 Xeon CPUs.
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 14:58 Post subject: |
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@LeoNatan -- Again, overkill.. I want to keep this real and < $5k. Right now the above system is running ~$3300 w/taxes so not shabby really. I still have to be technically 'reasonable' here also.
Also why am I looking to get 4 Xeon CPUs when I have to get another board I don't want?
Like the idea of a lesser 700W PSU.. no issue there. Yeah just the 690 for now.
MSI GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro S 29th Anniversary Intel i7 6820HK @ 4.0Ghz, 32GB DDR4-2133 RAM, 2x256GB Raid0 Toshiba NVMe 2.5 inch PCIe SSD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 OC'ed 200+ Core / 200+ Mem, 17.3 inch LG IPS HD Display @ 75Hz, Intel 7265AC Wifi, Windows 10 Pro BIOS version: .112 EC Firmware version: .105
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 15:04 Post subject: |
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You said "Super Workstation.. Price: No real object.." so I over exaggerated.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 15:56 Post subject: |
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Aren't AMD cards better for computing if you're gonna use consumer cards?
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 16:02 Post subject: |
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@Leo - sure man.. allows me to see whats really out there.
@farne - yeah don't go there: I have my reasons why NOT to ever use AMD/ATi cards. I prefer Nvidia by a long shot thanx.
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thudo
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I don't want to hijack my own thread but I don't trust Catalyst drivers to work with some of my third-party 3d apps and associated modules I use. I'm a GTX users for years and prefer to stick with what I know. Anyway the 690 is wayy faster than a single 7970 while the temps/noise levels are slightly worse with the 690 (based on Anandtech results as example) but yeah the 690 is ~$990 while the 7970 is ~$450-600 so @ CF they are REAL FAST but more expensive than a single 690 (well unless you get the cheapo 7970). Meh.. Guess I'm a Nvidia byatch.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 17:43 Post subject: |
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| thudo wrote: | | I don't want to hijack my own thread but I don't trust Catalyst drivers to work with some of my third-party 3d apps and associated modules I use. I'm a GTX users for years and prefer to stick with what I know. Anyway the 690 is wayy faster than a single 7970 while the temps/noise levels are slightly worse with the 690 (based on Anandtech results as example) but yeah the 690 is ~$990 while the 7970 is ~$450-600 so @ CF they are REAL FAST but more expensive than a single 690 (well unless you get the cheapo 7970). Meh.. Guess I'm a Nvidia byatch. |
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 17:48 Post subject: |
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Nah I just want the latest and greatest from Nvidia that I know works.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 18:05 Post subject: |
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It is supposed to be a "super-workstation", but it is composed of only "consumer-level" components.
No Xeon/X79, no Quadro/FirePro? But still an epic investement of $3300?
If you go fur such a bloated budget and need the processing power, why not try and get at least a 6-core Xeon?
Otherwise, such an investement seems like money thrown away to me as it will be obsolete as soon as a system worth $2000 and less.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 18:17 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | It is supposed to be a "super-workstation", but it is composed of only "consumer-level" components.
No Xeon/X79, no Quadro/FirePro? But still an epic investement of $3300?
If you go fur such a bloated budget and need the processing power, why not try and get at least a 6-core Xeon?
Otherwise, such an investement seems like money thrown away to me as it will be obsolete as soon as a system worth $2000 and less. |
I agree, from the specs you listed your making a "super gaming station" not a 'superwork station".
Unless you mean workstation in some other form on the term than what a workstation powerhouse really is.
Since your specs are more in line with what youd use for gaming/high end home user..than what a 3d autocad/maya/number cruncher/rendering station would have.
I mean I saw gaming as one of the things your going to do on it. but then you got a choice to make..either a machine made for raw power to do work, or a machine made for raw power to game.
The setup for a workhorse station, isn't the best for gaming, and one for gaming isn't the best for a render/compile/encoding situation.
$3000 towards a gaming machine will make a hell of a gaming machine thats ok at everything else..or $3000 towards a workstation will make a hell of a workhorse, thats ok at gaming.
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 18:30 Post subject: |
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I'm trying to find a compromise that does both so I am centered on my specs. Yeah I suppose I am more towards the "gaming side" right now but remember I've going from HDDs to SSDs so right there thats a massive increase in the power of my desktop.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 19:48 Post subject: |
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SSD is a massive increase in power?
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 20:09 Post subject: |
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woooow... waste of power. Nothing is going to use all that
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 21:00 Post subject: |
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Power being said rhetorically for raw power == speed. Getting the latest SSD over my older HDDs alone is a MASSIVE increase right there as most cycles used on a desktop are used by the read/written media.
| Quote: | | woooow... waste of power. Nothing is going to use all that |
With that logic why would anyone get a $14k multi-Xeons workstation system?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 21:03 Post subject: |
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Because in KC's narrow point of view, a computer is nothing more than an expensive gaming console. 
Not even that expensive from his system's standpoint. "6200le"
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| thudo wrote: | | With that logic why would anyone get a $14k multi-Xeons workstation system? |
For example like in my line of work, they get it for doing PDF normalization in asura, then color calibration on them for ink savings, then ripping the 300meg PDF/PS files into 4 separate CMYK 2400 DPI 1bit tiff files.
Speed= profit for newspapers..and when they have 200+ pages to rip to print by deadline, the faster the conversion runs, they later they can send pages to print, so the more up to date news they can print.
And if they could cram MORE cores and ram into the box they would. Even with 4, hex core xeon cpus' doing all those steps takes about 2 minutes a page. Multiply that by 200 pages.. that's 400 minutes of the machine going 100% on all cores.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 21:08 Post subject: |
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They haven't heard of distributed computing?
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