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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 23:17    Post subject: Another upgrade thread
So it looks like I am going to be getting a decent tax return this year and so I thought I would spend some of it on an upgrade to my main system. I only need to upgrade the cpu, motherboard and ram. Here is what i'm looking at right now



I am also thinking about a self contained water cooling for the cpu so if anyone has any experience with that I would like to hear about it.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 23:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 23:33    Post subject:
Z77 boards and ivy bridge are out later this month
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 18:54    Post subject:
Thanks for the advice I am going to wait for ivy to come out before I buy anything just to see whats what with prices and performance. The Z77 boards are nice and I think I am going to get one of those.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 13:22    Post subject:
Don't wait for Ivy itself. Wait for the price drops they'll hopefully start for Sandy Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 16:14    Post subject:
And new RAM with much higher clocks (albeit at slightly slacker timing) will be flooding the market.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 17:04    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
And new RAM with much higher clocks (albeit at slightly slacker timing) will be flooding the market.


Have they changed something in the memory controller that makes high speed RAM worth it? With 2500K/2600K there's no particularly noticeable performance difference between 1866 and 2133. In fact, the last step that shows any kind of minor difference is between 1600 and 1866. Timings doesn't seem to do much either. The once so easy performance boost from changing the wait from 2N to 1N doesn't do anything these days.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 17:44    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Slizza wrote:
And new RAM with much higher clocks (albeit at slightly slacker timing) will be flooding the market.


Have they changed something in the memory controller that makes high speed RAM worth it? With 2500K/2600K there's no particularly noticeable performance difference between 1866 and 2133. In fact, the last step that shows any kind of minor difference is between 1600 and 1866. Timings doesn't seem to do much either. The once so easy performance boost from changing the wait from 2N to 1N doesn't do anything these days.

Main advatage is for overclocking.
The Ivy Bridge CPU's should allow you to have much higher ram clocks.

For most every day use like gaming etc there is not much performance to be gained.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 17:55    Post subject:
velum wrote:
Thanks for the advice I am going to wait for ivy to come out before I buy anything just to see whats what with prices and performance. The Z77 boards are nice and I think I am going to get one of those.

you won't be getting ivy bridge's equivalents of 2600K and asus Z68 deluxe for 600$ that's for sure, especially on release day. also recent rumors that ivy bridge is bad overclocker. still, playing it safe and waiting is smart move.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 17:58    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Main advatage is for overclocking.
The Ivy Bridge CPU's should allow you to have much higher ram clocks.

How do you figure that? The CPU overclock is no longer tied to memory speed as you don't overclock the BCLK/FSB, so how does faster memory help?

All it does is give you higher memory bandwidth, but even then beyond DDR3-1600 there's barely any difference.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 18:29    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Slizza wrote:
Main advatage is for overclocking.
The Ivy Bridge CPU's should allow you to have much higher ram clocks.

How do you figure that? The CPU overclock is no longer tied to memory speed as you don't overclock the BCLK/FSB, so how does faster memory help?

All it does is give you higher memory bandwidth, but even then beyond DDR3-1600 there's barely any difference.

Was talkign about overclocking the ram.

The point is more that you will get the better rated kits at the same price...
Pointless buying a 1600 kit,
I hear the newer sticks will also be much lower profile.
Great news for air coolers.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 23:31    Post subject:
I bought a set of G.Skill ARES Low Profile (2x4GB) and they are indeed low profile. The days of buying cherry picked expensive RAM for overclocking purposes are over.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 23:55    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
I hear the newer sticks will also be much lower profile.
Great news for air coolers.

i have a massive air cooler with corsair vengeance 1600 low profiles. no problems, there's still tons of room left even for bigger air coolers if there are such Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Apr 2012 04:48    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Self contained watercooling for cpu: Corsair H80.


+1

i love mine, yet to see any side by side comparisons with beer bong type water coolers or even high performance air cooler but they definitely work very very well, adding an H80 and re-applying thermal paste lost me about 20c from what i remember.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Apr 2012 05:49    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Don't wait for Ivy itself. Wait for the price drops they'll hopefully start for Sandy Wink


Unfortunately all the research I've done say's that there won't be a price drop but who knows.

Here is where I am at right now




I'm still gonna wait for the 3770k and see what that can do but most likely I will get the 2600k.


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