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[sYn]
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 Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 20:26 Post subject: Learning Guitar! |
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I want to learn how to the play, figured there where some people here who knew about this stuff.. What should I buy? (thinking acoustic right now.. but feel free to advise otherwise..)
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 20:51 Post subject: |
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how much money are you willing to spend?
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 21:00 Post subject: |
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i m only knowledgeable about the distorted electric guitar 
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 21:06 Post subject: |
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Electric is easier to play than acoustic, but for your fingers not to bleed on the acoustic you can just change strings (altho that would make the sound kinda quiet). For a beginner I would suggest Squire by Fender, they are decent guitars, with not that thick neck. You don't need to toss your money on 'real' guitar in the beginning stage. I have seen, altho it was some time ago, a nice Squire starter set: guitar and a little amp.
Or you can, if you wish, just buy a guitar and hook it up to your comp via sound card and use a program for effects (I have Guitar Rig 4 and it rocks ).
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 21:23 Post subject: |
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yeah, ibanez is the king of affordable quality instruments.
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nouseforaname
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 21:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010 22:37 Post subject: |
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 03:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 09:04 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | [sYn] wrote: | | nouseforaname wrote: | my advice is to try taking lessons rather than learn on your own  |
I'm too lazy for that  .. plus I don't really like people ! I kind of want something I can just sit and play around on, learn slowly over the next few years while chilling out in my office chair ! Just for something to do other than playing games and watching movies while at home. |
maybe an acoustic is what you want then ... strumming some chords is pretty relaxing and ofc sounds better on acoustic rather than electric |
Strumming some chords is relaxing if you have played guitar b4, but if you haven't you'll wish you were never born  The strings on acoustic guitar (not classic, those are even worse) are way thicker than on electric guitar. It took me about a month to get my fingertips to harden when I started playing on acoustic, and I couldn't play for more than half an hour because of the pain.
I was saying squire because it's cheap, and you don't need beast of a guitar when you're a beginner. But that ibanez sure looks nice and is not that expensive...
EDIT: I just looked up that ibanez guitar, and ppl say it's shit :\ It goes out of tune pretty fast (because of the cheap floyd rose). But hey sYn you have tons of money (by the look of that chair you bought ), so you can buy any guitar you like (more expensive ibanez, jackson or my personal favourite Ernie Ball Music Man JP BFR http://www.music-man.com/instruments/guitars/john-petrucci-bfr.html - it costs ~ 4k $ but it's absolutely stunning ^^)
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 14:35 Post subject: |
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If you want specifically to go for acoustic, my artistic girl friend told me that acoustic guitars get better the more they are played - so buy second hand, but from or escorted by someone that knows guitars..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 18:33 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | If you want specifically to go for acoustic, my artistic girl friend told me that acoustic guitars get better the more they are played - so buy second hand, but from or escorted by someone that knows guitars.. |
lolwut?
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 18:40 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | StrEagle wrote: | | If you want specifically to go for acoustic, my artistic girl friend told me that acoustic guitars get better the more they are played - so buy second hand, but from or escorted by someone that knows guitars.. |
lolwut? |
yup, wooden instruments seem to get better with the time that they have been played (thats why classic instruments played by true masters have such an immense value). Resonance and sustain. Thats why some guitar companies "vintage" their guitars by vibrating them in certain machines. Weird shit. |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:25 Post subject: |
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it is weird but there is a lot of truth to it. i have an alvarez acoustic that's got some age. i bought it from a pawn shop and it was split through the middle and had been repaired. i got it for a little over 300, it was 1200 new. i had a gibson songwriter acoustic/electric that was 2000 when it was new and to me the alvarez blew it out the water.
just be careful with used instruments. not everyone takes good care of their stuff so age/vintage doesn't necessarily equal great tone and character.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:48 Post subject: |
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no, just no. there are some vintage instruments out there that sound better than new ones, but that's only because of the materials and craftsmanship involved. it's true that stuff like the wood tension etc changes over the years, but not all of it has to be good.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 21:09 Post subject: |
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| bushwacka wrote: | | no, just no. there are some vintage instruments out there that sound better than new ones, but that's only because of the materials and craftsmanship involved. it's true that stuff like the wood tension etc changes over the years, but not all of it has to be good. |
i have read some articles some time ago on aging e-guitars by vibrating them after having seen a tv programme on it. I cant find the ones i remember, but i found a similar one about accoustic guitars:
http://www.acousticguitar.com/gear/advice/vibration.shtml
You willl not be able to make a good guitar out of a really rubbish one though. But you ll be able to make a good one into an awesome one. |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 02:30 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | Acoustic is good... If you're a hippie.
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or maybe to sing songs around the campfire wich is kinda the same
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 02:41 Post subject: |
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I started out in school with vinyl stringed acoustic, learning silly folk songs and stuff like that. Quit after a year since it was soooo boring. Was always into music though, keyboards, computer music etc.. and 1990 I bought a crappy Duke Les Paul copy for $20 which was okay to learn the basics on, then in summer 1991 I bought my Fender Strat in the local music shop and I've stuck with it ever since. Had a marshall combo for a while, then later on a Peavey Bandit 112, but pawned that and have used Guitarrig with Reaper after that. Looking for a new combo or amp/cabinet setup again since I'm about to start playing with some other guys again after a long hiatus.
PS. I learned most from jamming to records. Only bothered with tabs with stuff like Satriani (Surfing with the alien book) that I couldn't figure out by ear.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2011 19:46 Post subject: |
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yeah, you can count me in as well
i have a shitty old guitar, it sounds pretty good, but i need to get it fixed
if the repairs exceed 25 euros, i'll throw it away, since it's too old to be worth it and i'd be getting a Yamaha F310.
As a sidenote, can anyone who knows guitars help me out, what kind of guitar is in the below picture ? If you'd know the model and brand it would fantastic.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2011 19:49 Post subject: |
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Fuck buying something expensive. To start just buy a cheap Yamaha combo, and just start working it. Plenty of 'how to' videos on youtube. It just takes a lot of practice, and you'll see what you need to see in the youtube videos.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2011 20:28 Post subject: |
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thanks man, it was a silvertone
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2011 20:42 Post subject: |
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http://www.justinguitar.com/
good site to get started with for learning.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2011 21:57 Post subject: |
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whatever u do, dont get a first guitar with a whammy bar. too much hassle for u and u probably wont use it much. Usually guitars with whammy bars that cost under 800-900 euros have cheap materials used in the bridge area and they wear out quickly. If u buy an acoustic, id recommend to go with metal strings not nylon.
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