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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 20:47 Post subject: |
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The first one has weak video card, second one too, third one is a bit better, but still.
I'd never buy a prebuilt comp...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 20:51 Post subject: |
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 really... how weak is the first one? Cause that one is like 500 dollers.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 20:55 Post subject: |
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It's good, but you'd definitely need a better GPU.
ATI HD 5750 is weak, weaker than 460 definitely! But you could try to sell it and buy a new card 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Gomp
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 20:57 Post subject: |
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If u dont want to build it, then order the parts and let them assemble it for you? Should become alittlebit cheaper, they allways take abit more cash out of your pocket from those prebuilt systems.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 21:11 Post subject: |
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compared to the first one, it's weaker... worse processor, less memory. Only thing that's better is the GPU...
Buy the first one, and then upgrade GPU later...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2011 21:35 Post subject: |
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I'm npt that up to date with prices, wait for wrleds to come and gives you advice 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 01:09 Post subject: |
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Let me browse around for you tomorrow, any shop/website in particular you want me to look at?
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 01:15 Post subject: |
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Hmmm
http://canadacomputers.com/
they have gtx560ti for 230 
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/
Pretty much anything that'll make the 500$ model decent enough to enjoy modern games w/o going all out. i still play css at 1200
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 09:44 Post subject: |
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Considering my E8400, 4GB ram, and GTX470 system can still play every game max settings - I'm quite confident you can build a system for little to nothing besides the GPU expenses.
I'd go on ebay and find an old C2D/C2Q system and then just buy a decent GPU.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 11:22 Post subject: |
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Seems garus beat me to it, those items are quite close to what you'd want. difm has a point though, H67 motherboard can't overclock the CPU, which I don't think Waldo is looking to do anyway. On the other hand, the difference between 2500 and 2500K is only $20, so I personally don't think it's worth *not* getting the unlocked variant, just in case you do want to OC later on (which is ridiculously easy with that thing).
You could also opt for a Seasonic X-560 instead of the HX650; both are Seasonic builds, but the actual Seasonic unit is quite a bit more silent.
As for how good that setup is Waldo? It shits all over any of the systems you linked; obviously this still lacks a case, but put a $80 case around it (or use your current case), and you'll be set for years to come. The $1200 system is faster for heavy video encoding, but that's about it.
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garus
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 12:43 Post subject: |
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@Waldo, I sell you mine, it cost me $3400 a year ago, I sell it for $5000 (considering inflation and all) 
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 16:15 Post subject: |
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Hmm. you guys just complicated my life to a whole new level 
I'll see what i can do. Not really in the mood to build a comp. Thought I could just buy one of those linked and upgrade it slightly. I should've stuck with computer engineering
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 16:52 Post subject: |
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Why do ppl who don't dabble with computers refer to comp building as if they are building a bomb? 
It's computer, the worst thing that can happen is that you break sth xD
But you have manual and internet. Most ppl learned to put together their comp that way
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 16:56 Post subject: |
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lol shut up 
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 17:01 Post subject: |
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No, I'm serious. People have this misconception that building PCs is difficult, something requiring vast knowledge and education. It doesn't. It's component A going into slot B.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 17:02 Post subject: |
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HD6870 is quite a good GPU and not that expensive.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 17:08 Post subject: |
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It's worth the time Waldo. That's the biggest issue with building a PC, it takes some time. You do end up with a much better system than any of those pre-fab pieces of shit though
And like Sabin says, you can't really do it wrong. If you find yourself applying force, grab the manual because that's wrong. Everything slides into the respective slot with ease nowadays and it all comes with an installation booklet as well.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2011 17:17 Post subject: |
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No i know. i used to build pc's back in the days of when i was a yooth. But now, I just repair bits and pieces here that can be repaired by a commoner. And last time i touched in the innards of a computer was that of a SAN. and that was 4 weeks ago. A regular system I touched was well over 8 years ago.
But those items they're i5 isn't i7 all the better?
I'm so behind the times it's not even funny.
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