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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Nice selection there mate, although that PSU is a bit over the top; planning SLI at some point? If not, drop that down to an AX750, that entire build (assuming you keep your 580) will barely touch 500W under Furmark+Linpack load, if it even will; with overclocking you can MAYBE push that up to 600 (depending on how hard your 580 can go). 850 is a waste, so much energy wasted when it's idle (both in heat + fan spinning).
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2011 14:38 Post subject: |
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2011 15:23 Post subject: |
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Good choice then 
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2011 22:14 Post subject: |
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dr-nix
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2011 23:00 Post subject: Re: New setup inc ;) |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Motherboard should be very solid, not gonna touch ASUS this time. |
You do know that ASRock is a daughter-company to ASUS right?
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black | ASUS Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 32 GB Trident Z 3600Mhz | Gigabyte Aorus PCIe4 1TB SSD | Corsair MP510 1TB SSD |ASUS RTX 3080 Ti TUF | Fractal Design Define 7 | Seasonic 850W Platinum
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 22:57 Post subject: Re: New setup inc ;) |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Motherboard should be very solid, not gonna touch ASUS this time. |
ASRock more solid than ASUS?!  Are you on crack?
This board will annihilate any asrock
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:10 Post subject: Re: New setup inc ;) |
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| timechange01 wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | Motherboard should be very solid, not gonna touch ASUS this time. |
ASRock more solid than ASUS?! Are you on crack?
This board will annihilate any asrock
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Actually yes. You're a member of OCN so you should be fully aware of the DOA issues Asus is running into the last few years. I'm not hating on Asus, they make AMAZING high end boards, but buying their motherboards has been a gamble the last few years if you get a working one or not anymore. If you get one that works though it's worth the money.
A lot of OCN has been leaning to gigabyte the last few years. Solid as a rock |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:16 Post subject: |
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DOA issues should never be a problem for anyone because no company out there will refuse to replace your DOA product. Ive tried a 1366 ASUS Rampage III Extreme in my rig for a few weeks and the amount of features and stability it had were astonishing
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 00:04 Post subject: |
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| timechange01 wrote: | | DOA issues should never be a problem for anyone because no company out there will refuse to replace your DOA product. Ive tried a 1366 ASUS Rampage III Extreme in my rig for a few weeks and the amount of features and stability it had were astonishing |
Well DOA is an issue when you're spending that kind of money on an enthusiest board. It costs you in downtime and shipping depending where it's from.
If you get that kind of board it should work out of the box, especially what you pay for it. I'm not going to keep sending a motherboard back because they can't get their act together and keep their quality up to what it used to be.
It's not AS bad when it's for yourself but when you have customers that want an Asus board then it gets really annoying making your customer wait.
You also have to keep in mind a huge margin of this board is european and the prices they pay for hardware is inflated like hell compared to what me and you get to pay for it. |
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Gomp
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:34 Post subject: |
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ASROCK are quality inexpensive boards, if gigabyte ever lets me down i know what to switch to.
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Ankh
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:44 Post subject: |
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I have one of these
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-SATA2
working since 2007, not a single problem.
Very handy when it came to slowly upgrading all my stuff from DDR, AGP and IDE to DDR2, PCIe(although limited to PCIe x4) and SATA and I even managed to run it a bit OC'ed.
Then I switched all the stuff to a new gigabyte mobo, but that ASROCK is still running with an E5200, 2GB DDR2 and an 8800GTS 320 MB.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:56 Post subject: |
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ASROCK are a subsidiary of ASUS, but with complete autonomy as far as I know. Own board, own engineers. They once started out as a budget brand, but in recent years I've seen many good enthusiast boards from them 
For me personally, ASUS isn't at the top of my list; shit like the ROG boards add fuckall and cost a fortune, and at the sensible price ranges MSI and Gigabyte often do better on all fronts. That said, they make good boards like all the others, it's just that in overclockability they often fall slightly behind the others
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 14:08 Post subject: |
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Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7, Socket-1155 <- this is the motherboard ive got for my i7-2600k. I think its a pretty decent one for overclocking. But I cannot decide if Im to get a new cooling system first or not (ive got the standard 2600k fan atm).
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7, Socket-1155 <- this is the motherboard ive got for my i7-2600k. I think its a pretty decent one for overclocking. But I cannot decide if Im to get a new cooling system first or not (ive got the standard 2600k fan atm). |
If you're going to overclock the standard fan will hardly give you any room. The board is nice and your VRM's are heatsinked so you're good to go on that front.
If you want amazing cooling for a decent cost..look into the Corsair Hydro series. It's a completely sealed all in 1 water kid. Most people get weary when it comes to having water in their systems but only 1 leak has ever been documented which corsair replaced everything in that persons computer.
The major pro to using these (as all water cooling) is the fact the heat is transfered to the radiator and then directly out of your case so all your other components get the fresh air flow. Normal in case heatsinks disperse the heat in your case and then need to be expelled.
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series/hydro-series-h100-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html
This is their brand new one they just released. I'm still on the H50 which does it's job just fine but only uses a 120mm radiator.
If you don't have room for the H100 240mm radiator look at the H70 or H80
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series.html
They use a double thick 120mm radiator
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Gomp
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2011 09:29 Post subject: |
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Little update  Made some changes afterall, still waiting my damn case so i can start building ze shit up
Cpu/Cooler: i5 2500K | Thermalright Silver Arrow
Mobo: AsRock P67 Extreme 4
Ram: 2x4GB G.Skil Sniper 1600mhz
PSU: Corsair AX 750
GPU: Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II (another one inc aswell :>)
Case: Fractal Arc (never arrives...)
Also why GTX 570 since i had 580? Brother bought it, but since you need use bottom slot in M4A89GTD-PRO, and the card eats 3-SLOTS (there wasnt space at all between PSU and the card itself, also in Antec 300 you need mount PSU that the fan is on top). The card would have blown all hot air to PSU which would not have been nice in a long term use.
So i decided to swap my GTX 580 with him, got some cash in exhange, after some testing, GTX 570 is pretty much the same as 580 in games -.- (Overclocked 900 vs 900 core, i cant really see any difference in performance at 1080p). And with this GPU change, i dont need that beefy PSU , so i went for AX 750 (which is enough for OC´d i5/SLI GTX 570). Also my god this DirectCU II cooler is great, its performance is about the same as Accelero Extreme Plus which costs like 70 euros (like 20c cooler at load overclocked than reference).
Also i5 2500K overall is same for gaming than i7 2600K. As for the memory, went for Sniper models instead of RipjawsX since there would have been some problems fitting em to mobo with Silver Arrow.
And the case, went for Arc since its pretty much best case to build watercooling inside of it / Air cooling. As for "watercooling", ill be buying Corsair H100 when it comes to finland (if it beats my old Silver Arrow).
Should be sexy build, cant wait to start building it when my case arrives (if it arrives ;<). Second GPU should be here with the case, since i ordered em at the same time, the case delayes the whole damn order .
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 20:49 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | | Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7, Socket-1155 <- this is the motherboard ive got for my i7-2600k. I think its a pretty decent one for overclocking. But I cannot decide if Im to get a new cooling system first or not (ive got the standard 2600k fan atm). |
If you're going to overclock the standard fan will hardly give you any room. The board is nice and your VRM's are heatsinked so you're good to go on that front.
If you want amazing cooling for a decent cost..look into the Corsair Hydro series. It's a completely sealed all in 1 water kid. Most people get weary when it comes to having water in their systems but only 1 leak has ever been documented which corsair replaced everything in that persons computer.
The major pro to using these (as all water cooling) is the fact the heat is transfered to the radiator and then directly out of your case so all your other components get the fresh air flow. Normal in case heatsinks disperse the heat in your case and then need to be expelled.
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series/hydro-series-h100-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html
This is their brand new one they just released. I'm still on the H50 which does it's job just fine but only uses a 120mm radiator.
If you don't have room for the H100 240mm radiator look at the H70 or H80
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series.html
They use a double thick 120mm radiator |
water cooling for idiots? FINALLY!! i never even knew about these.. always kinda shied away from looking at it, but closed-in, no maintenance (other than keeping the fans clear i guess) - thats awesome...
question:
CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES H60
that be worth getting? id like to look into overclocking - something else ive kinda avoided in t he past, and so i want something that'll keep the cpu cool for a good noise level for some medium overclocking... would that suffice? i ask about the 60 because it looks nice and small, and only the 50, 60 and 70 models are available in my country..
and the 70... it looks a bit too massive to be honest. its a chunky thick thing... how much of performance hit would it take if i only used one fan with it? would it be possible to mount the second fan OUTSIDE the case do you think? to conserve a bit of space and make it easier to clean the fans out n shit?
i have a Thermalright Ultra-120 at the moment, but its massive and id love to replace it.. would the h60 be superior, or 'as good'... even if it was as good as the u-120, id still want to get rid of the 120 because its a bitch to clean the fans out...
edit: oh jeez... just doing some reading... 'minimum 2 year life span'.. so you can expect... what... 3... 4 years? come on... i 'spose 'watercooling for dummies' was bound to have its price... 
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 21:10 Post subject: |
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no LPT1 port and no RS-232 are a deal breaker for me
guess if i upgrade i will be forced to by adapters
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Jun 2011 15:57 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | | Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7, Socket-1155 <- this is the motherboard ive got for my i7-2600k. I think its a pretty decent one for overclocking. But I cannot decide if Im to get a new cooling system first or not (ive got the standard 2600k fan atm). |
If you're going to overclock the standard fan will hardly give you any room. The board is nice and your VRM's are heatsinked so you're good to go on that front.
If you want amazing cooling for a decent cost..look into the Corsair Hydro series. It's a completely sealed all in 1 water kid. Most people get weary when it comes to having water in their systems but only 1 leak has ever been documented which corsair replaced everything in that persons computer.
The major pro to using these (as all water cooling) is the fact the heat is transfered to the radiator and then directly out of your case so all your other components get the fresh air flow. Normal in case heatsinks disperse the heat in your case and then need to be expelled.
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series/hydro-series-h100-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html
This is their brand new one they just released. I'm still on the H50 which does it's job just fine but only uses a 120mm radiator.
If you don't have room for the H100 240mm radiator look at the H70 or H80
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series.html
They use a double thick 120mm radiator |
water cooling for idiots? FINALLY!! i never even knew about these.. always kinda shied away from looking at it, but closed-in, no maintenance (other than keeping the fans clear i guess) - thats awesome...
question:
CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES H60
that be worth getting? id like to look into overclocking - something else ive kinda avoided in t he past, and so i want something that'll keep the cpu cool for a good noise level for some medium overclocking... would that suffice? i ask about the 60 because it looks nice and small, and only the 50, 60 and 70 models are available in my country..
and the 70... it looks a bit too massive to be honest. its a chunky thick thing... how much of performance hit would it take if i only used one fan with it? would it be possible to mount the second fan OUTSIDE the case do you think? to conserve a bit of space and make it easier to clean the fans out n shit?
i have a Thermalright Ultra-120 at the moment, but its massive and id love to replace it.. would the h60 be superior, or 'as good'... even if it was as good as the u-120, id still want to get rid of the 120 because its a bitch to clean the fans out...
edit: oh jeez... just doing some reading... 'minimum 2 year life span'.. so you can expect... what... 3... 4 years? come on... i 'spose 'watercooling for dummies' was bound to have its price... |
Its a nice cooler. Ive used an H50 on a phenom II 965 and was able to overclock it to 4.0Ghz. The noise level is low as you would expect but I dont think the H60, H70, H100 are worth the high price tag unless you can get it for cheap.
For a true watercooling noob, I suggest you get the XSPC Rasa kit: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11743/ex-wat-159/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_-HOT.html
Youl get MUCH more mileage with this kit than with a Corsair hydro cooler. This kit also comes with one of the best CPU watetblocks out right now. Its not hard to setup at all and once you get it going, you can upgrade/swap out parts from the loop (Example: If you want to watercool your GPU sometime in the future, just add a GPU waterblock to the loop)
BTW, maintenance of a watercooling loop only needs to be done perhaps once twice a year if you use the correct coolant which is distilled water and a few drops of biocide
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Jun 2011 12:09 Post subject: |
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Antec H2O 620 is cheaper than H60-H70 and is better with Push & Pull configuration.
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