If you're going to try psychedelics, my tip would be psilocybin mushrooms Never tried them myself (no drug actually ), but from what I've read and heard, which is quite a bit, that's what I think would be pretty damn interesting..
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You should try salvia, it's legal in most of your states if I'm not mistaken, and it's almost as strong as LSD, but lasts only a couple of minutes. Its just a herb, like pot, with no proven longterm side effects.
It's definitely an experience you wont forget. Just make sure you have someone with you so you don't do stupid shit like jumping off a balcony.
i've got many drugs experience ten years ago . Mushrooms were good.
The only thing i can tell you is that LSD was not good for me. ( see my avatar )
If you are a "person sensible"(frail), don't try it . My "bad trip" was for two day and i'd traveled all over my fucking brain and this was awful .
This experience was bad for me , even my dog didn't recognize me when i took this shit.. ( well,it was my feel)
first off, LSD = Acid (Lysergic acid diethylamide) but its short from the german "Lyserg Säure diäthylamide"
I frequently use LSD and its by far my favorite substance. Its non- addictive and non-damaging (brain etc). It can however have side effects like paranoia etc, but only if you're weak minded, paranoid etc in the first place. I took LSD for 17 years on and off now, with normal to high dosages and i never had a bad experience. Effects can last 6 to 12 hours (and longer) with various degrees of different effects. Some trips can be very visuel, while others may not at all, usually depending a lot of the "freshness" of the "trip".
Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder or HPPD is a disorder characterized by a continual presence of visual disturbances that are reminiscent of those generated by the ingestion of hallucinogenic substances.
There are a number of perceptual changes that can accompany HPPD. Typical symptoms of the disorder include: halos or auras surrounding objects, trails following objects in motion, difficulty distinguishing between colors, apparent shifts in the hue of a given item, the illusion of movement in a static setting, air assuming a grainy or textured quality (visual snow or static, by popular description, which may also be caused by the normal "blue field entoptic phenomenon"), distortions in the dimensions of a perceived object, and a heightened awareness of floaters. The visual alterations experienced by those with HPPD are not homogeneous and there appear to be individual differences in both the number and intensity of symptoms.
Visual aberrations can occur periodically in healthy individuals – e.g. afterimages after staring at a light, noticing floaters inside the eye, or seeing specks of light in a darkened room. However, in people with HPPD, symptoms are typically so severe that the individual cannot ignore them and HPPD is associated with new visual disturbances. It does not appear to merely increase those already in existence.
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As of yet, there is no cure available for HPPD. The principal treatments seek to reduce symptoms and distress without treating underlying causes. Benzodiazepines including clonazepam (Klonopin), diazepam (Valium) and alprazolam (Xanax) are prescribed with a fair amount of success.
It's a gamble with an unknown risk factor. The mere thought of living the rest of my life with visual disturbances like static, halos, trails etc. is enough to keep me from touching the stuff. Of course, you can also trigger depression, extreme anxiety etc., it's difficult to predict for a first-timer.
from all the drugs etc, lsd is by far the least dangerous. Oh and not ever rumor about is true either, sometimes urban myths are just that, myths
This 'graph' doesn't account for what Frant is talking about.
And the validity of this graph is put to question given the fact that you can't OD from LSD to begin with. It is a natural vitamin produced by the body and you'll piss it out after a certain dosage.
What does LD50 have to do with HPPD? Just because you can ingest a lot of LSD without dying doesn't mean it's safe for consumption. Again, the defensiveness of drug-romantics where reality (eh.. nm) is discarded as "myths" and "rumours".
There are side effects to everything. From all I've heard LSD side effects are quite unlikely, especially when compared to things we take regularly, like alcohol, which definitely cause immediate damage and/or addiction.
Never took it myself though. Tripping all day is just not something I have time for
In my experience mescaline is way more relaxing than psilocybin and can be a really deep and personal experience you'll keep for the rest of your life . Mushrooms (for me atleast) is more complete wacko. A high dose of psilocybin and you wont have any idea of what is going on.
At any rate if you're interested remember to start at low doses. Have decided before hand what is going to happen(ex make a playlist of good tunes, have some food ready and so on). A sitter is also quite nice the first times.
If you're going for mushrooms, consider growing them yourself. It's really nice seeing them grow just waiting to be eaten
Also for more info try browsing erowid.org. It has a shit ton of information. Both scientific and experience based.
frant is going overkill i think, OBVSIOUSLY it CAN have side effects, guess what, EVERYTHING CAN.
just as you can die from everything. But the risk for it (having lasting sideeffects etc) is smaller than having a car accident lol.
and whats the crap about it being a vitamin lol ? it comes from ergotaminE, notice the huge difference between a vitamiN and a ergotaminE. Vitamins are not of the aminE family lol.
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you can OD on anything. Water, salt, chocolate ... the difference is, usually your body (and mind) will stop you long before. Hoever the further you go to the right in that list, the shorter the distance is between active dose and a lethal dose.
you can OD on anything. Water, salt, chocolate ... the difference is, usually your body (and mind) will stop you long before. Hoever the further you go to the right in that list, the shorter the distance is between active dose and a lethal dose.
Again, your body will quite easy filter out and piss LSD beyond a certain level. It would be like ODing on vitamin C, pretty fucking hard.
frant is going overkill i think, OBVSIOUSLY it CAN have side effects, guess what, EVERYTHING CAN.
just as you can die from everything. But the risk for it (having lasting sideeffects etc) is smaller than having a car accident lol.
and whats the crap about it being a vitamin lol ? it comes from ergotaminE, notice the huge difference between a vitamiN and a ergotaminE. Vitamins are not of the aminE family lol.
I felt I had to offset your positive romanticism about hallucinogens. You made it sound like there are NO risks or that the risks are negligible. It's always the same though, druggies entering a defensive state to make themselves feel better about doing drugs, telling themselves it's perfectly safe when in fact plenty of people have seen the negative side of drug use, sometimes permanent.
those cases are so rare, you more likely win the lottery lol. I love how people with no experience or anything quote wiki and think they added something intelligent to the discussion.
You dont need experience to have valid comments on drugs. They are right, LSD is not totally safe. From my experience I would also say, that the examples seen here are rare cases. However personal experience doesn't really count as an argument. On the other hand, most of the scare articles about drugs are founded by people who obviosly know which conclussion they want before doing a study.
All it really boils down to is wether you will take the risk or not. I think it's worth it.
take it
you will see rainbows shooting out of your hands
and
hear the words of god...
but then shit , puke and piss will come out all at the same time ...
when your experience is over
take it
you will see rainbows shooting out of your hands
and
hear the words of god...
but then shit , puke and piss will come out all at the same time ...
when your experience is over
those cases are so rare, you more likely win the lottery lol. I love how people with no experience or anything quote wiki and think they added something intelligent to the discussion.
if you have no clue, stfu and gtfo lol.
Given the mountains of data collected by the CIA when they were testing LSD heavily in numerous amounts of perveted 'black' programs during the 60's and 70's; I'm willing to trust their final judgement that it isn't the safest shit. And really, all I need to do is look at real world examples of people who took LSD during the 60's and their minds are fucked because of it.
Some people may be fine, but others will be fucked in the head for life. It isn't like weed where nothing bad is really going to happen. On top of that, the risk of having a bad trip alone kind of ruins any draw towards LSD.
Anyways, me personally i'm not a fan of taking drugs. I smoked my share of dope during middle school, done a hit of ecstasy, the normal shit. In the end, after the high of the drug wears out, I come to the realization that I would have been better off just not taking the drug to begin with. You feel less alive compared to the way you felt before taking the drug. The short term ultra-high isn't worth it. I'd rather just feel like myself. Of course, if you are deppressed then 'yourself' kind of sucks anyways. Taking the drugs isn't going to help that problem though. If you solve the deppression you'll feel a lot better. Being 'high on life' is a true statement, and it isn't something I discovered until my early 20's.
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Never tried them myself (no drug actually 
), but from what I've read and heard, which is quite a bit, that's what I think would be pretty damn interesting..
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