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 Posted: Wed, 9th Mar 2011 22:44 Post subject: Shoplifters... |
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Why, oh, why, can't it be legal to just plain drop kick shoplifters?
ESP. the ones that turn around after being caught and say "I'm gunna git you!"?
Fuck, I hate working in retail, and fuck, I hate putting up with this crap, and FUCK, I hate the next customer who comes along that whines about a missing price tag.
Please, let me mount some god damn submachine guns in the ceiling that drops down when I press a button.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Mar 2011 23:36 Post subject: |
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Hey, I wouldn't complain if we sent criminals to logging camps, far past up north the arctic circle, instead of prison.
Atleast imho, people then wouldn't want to do it again.. :O
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 00:24 Post subject: |
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| Namarie wrote: | Hey, I wouldn't complain if we sent criminals to logging camps, far past up north the arctic circle, instead of prison.
Atleast imho, people then wouldn't want to do it again.. :O |
Even killing "does not teach them a lesson".
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Come at me helvete and ahnk I know your leftist ass is going to eat me  . |
I suppose you mean Ankh? AHAHAhaha yeah he is going to eat your ass but not because of the (bull)shit you wrote, but because of calling him leftist  mwahaha Ankh the hippie leftist |
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 01:13 Post subject: |
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So beacuse some1 is poor crime is ok?
Nice view u got there.
Dont tell others they are to inexperienced to make comments like that when urself are not better at all. Stop living in a bubble.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 02:11 Post subject: |
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You're putting words in my mouth, there. I'm explaining a situation that PUSHES people into crime, not saying it's all good and dandy.
however I couldn't give a shit either since I'm a manipulative sociopath either way.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 10:01 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | Ragedoctor wrote: | Personally I find criminality to be a choice in this day and age. If you live in Europe or any cultured Western country criminal behaviour is simply no longer acceptable. You can live a perfectly acceptable life without criminal behaviour being needed to support yourself.
Criminal behaviour is a choice, the moment you make that choice, a conscious choice, you lose all freedom and rights.
Theres a future in punitive camps and dont call me a nazi now, when people cant function in society, you create a society wherein they can function.
Come at me helvete and ahnk I know your leftist ass is going to eat me . |
You're way too inexperienced in life to make comments like that. crime is not a choice for the most part. some people are unable to get expensive education and didn't grow up in the suburbs with Dr mom & lawyer dad. all the envy transforms itself into a will to make it too and the only way out sure ain't a min. wage job at mcdonalds or some sweat shop. |
First of all you know nothing about me and by the mere fact you disagree with my opinion you find my experience in life lacking? Thats one hell of an assumption son.
Anyway in the Western world criminality is a choice, here in the Netherlands you can have a dignified life even if you have no job and getting one isnt particularly hard. The fact that these people arent satisfied until they have everything everybody else has; read plasma tv; is completely their problem. Now on criminal acts that come out of the "moment" so to say rape, well lets just say that it will be hard to find a group that will pressure me into raping a 13 year old with 20 other people.
ANd all your shit about education is the USA and Im not sure the USA can fully be counted part of the "cultured" western world. Its policy on support of the weakers is pretty unacceptable imho, that aside when you look in Europe its just totally unacceptable. Your education is paid FOR you, your housing will be paid FOR you, when you have no job you will often earn MORE through social services then you did with your low income job. Criminality here is a choice and dont try and be the; oh woe my life is so hard type, its completely contradictionary to your attitude.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 10:04 Post subject: |
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Isn't a manipulative sociopath the real life version of a troll? 
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 10:34 Post subject: |
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| Ragedoctor wrote: | | FireMaster wrote: | | Ragedoctor wrote: | Personally I find criminality to be a choice in this day and age. If you live in Europe or any cultured Western country criminal behaviour is simply no longer acceptable. You can live a perfectly acceptable life without criminal behaviour being needed to support yourself.
Criminal behaviour is a choice, the moment you make that choice, a conscious choice, you lose all freedom and rights.
Theres a future in punitive camps and dont call me a nazi now, when people cant function in society, you create a society wherein they can function.
Come at me helvete and ahnk I know your leftist ass is going to eat me . |
You're way too inexperienced in life to make comments like that. crime is not a choice for the most part. some people are unable to get expensive education and didn't grow up in the suburbs with Dr mom & lawyer dad. all the envy transforms itself into a will to make it too and the only way out sure ain't a min. wage job at mcdonalds or some sweat shop. |
First of all you know nothing about me and by the mere fact you disagree with my opinion you find my experience in life lacking? Thats one hell of an assumption son.
Anyway in the Western world criminality is a choice, here in the Netherlands you can have a dignified life even if you have no job and getting one isnt particularly hard. The fact that these people arent satisfied until they have everything everybody else has; read plasma tv; is completely their problem. Now on criminal acts that come out of the "moment" so to say rape, well lets just say that it will be hard to find a group that will pressure me into raping a 13 year old with 20 other people.
ANd all your shit about education is the USA and Im not sure the USA can fully be counted part of the "cultured" western world. Its policy on support of the weakers is pretty unacceptable imho, that aside when you look in Europe its just totally unacceptable. Your education is paid FOR you, your housing will be paid FOR you, when you have no job you will often earn MORE through social services then you did with your low income job. Criminality here is a choice and dont try and be the; oh woe my life is so hard type, its completely contradictionary to your attitude. |
oh well we can't all be spoiled european soft blobs now can we . earning more while not working? paid housing and education? you guys got it good.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 11:43 Post subject: |
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what the hell .. don't tell me you've never shoplifter before ... c'mon , i did those kind of stunt in my early teens just cause it was the age to do it , it was fun and felt dangerous.
and no , i didnt make me turn to a life of crime n'or did a develop a habit of stealing shit.
Also , i see that some of you haven't been around much , why don't you take a trip to the ex soviet block and then talk about crime and how it's unacceptable and shit like that.
Face it , some people just steal out of necesitty , they can't afford it , and they risk being caught for some higher purpose.
I remember reading a newspaper a couple of years or so ago that someone broke into the postal office , it was freezing outside and he didnt want to freeze to death so he restorted to smashing a window and just finding a warm place not to die.
Apparently some of you would have sent his ass to jail ..
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 11:50 Post subject: |
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| Hierofan wrote: | | what the hell .. don't tell me you've never shoplifter before ... c'mon , i did those kind of stunt in my early teens just cause it was the age to do it , it was fun and felt dangerous. |
Well you are from romania, I can understand it |
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 11:52 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | Hierofan wrote: | | what the hell .. don't tell me you've never shoplifter before ... c'mon , i did those kind of stunt in my early teens just cause it was the age to do it , it was fun and felt dangerous. |
Well you are from romania, I can understand it |
damn gypsies 
don't even get me started with germany , i've see some real wackos , but not quite like those i've seen there
also , c'mon .. none of you pussies never broken the law ?
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 11:56 Post subject: |
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Well I download porn. If that is agianst law I'm guilty
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 14:49 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | Ragedoctor wrote: | Personally I find criminality to be a choice in this day and age. If you live in Europe or any cultured Western country criminal behaviour is simply no longer acceptable. You can live a perfectly acceptable life without criminal behaviour being needed to support yourself.
Criminal behaviour is a choice, the moment you make that choice, a conscious choice, you lose all freedom and rights.
Theres a future in punitive camps and dont call me a nazi now, when people cant function in society, you create a society wherein they can function.
Come at me helvete and ahnk I know your leftist ass is going to eat me . |
You're way too inexperienced in life to make comments like that. crime is not a choice for the most part. some people are unable to get expensive education and didn't grow up in the suburbs with Dr mom & lawyer dad. all the envy transforms itself into a will to make it too and the only way out sure ain't a min. wage job at mcdonalds or some sweat shop. |
We're talking Europe here, where everyone gets money, freedom and opportunities. Of course if you want to fuck up you still can, but it's a lot harder than in USA. I think USA is more and more becoming an example of capitalism gone wrong.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 14:52 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | Hierofan wrote: | | what the hell .. don't tell me you've never shoplifter before ... c'mon , i did those kind of stunt in my early teens just cause it was the age to do it , it was fun and felt dangerous. |
Well you are from romania, I can understand it |
Shoplifting is so unsophisticated, even in Romania. They've made skimming their speciality 
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 15:37 Post subject: |
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poverty does not turn anyone into a criminal.
And it never will.
People who say that are retarded. No matter what country/what state/what planet/ poverty doesn't push you into the life of crime.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 16:52 Post subject: |
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| helvete wrote: | Opinions.. 
You do know there are experts who study these things for a living right? But sure, they're retards for not agreeing with your well thought out opinions. |
Looting a shop seems like an obvious choice to me. Unless someone else is controlling your brain -- but that's highly unlikely. I think a shoplifter would reason as follows.
-I need money/stuff right now
-I'm going to take a risk and loot the shop
-I don't care about the consequences. Not enough to not loot the shop anyway.
These are thoughts shortly before the crime. And I think a lot of choices are consciously being made. Taking money right here and now, taking a risk, calculating if the benefits would outweigh the risks.
A lot of problems may cause someone to become a thug. But I think getting into trouble also is a choice in certain and maybe most situations. Having socio economic problems ultimately is a choice for instance. Not seeing the doctor if you have problems, not finishing school or refusing extra education, drinking too much alcohol. Hell getting out of bed late is a choice. And the list goes on. These are all choices that may ruin your life. And then you may turn into a shoplifter.
I have come to believe people are not helpless victims of their circumstances. You don't always get to choose your circumstances, but you can choose which way to go. Left or right. There always is a choice to improve your situation. And yes the road ahead may be difficult. But that still doesn't mean you are forced to take the easy route -- which may lead you straight into the gutter.
Of course there are difficult situations with little choice. Being born in a poor, shitty and criminal neighbourhood in the US for example. Getting out of that cesspool will be very difficult. But completely impossible? I don't think so. So I think people can always do something to improve their situation to prevent becoming a criminal.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 18:18 Post subject: |
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I'm not going to even give my opinion, everyone knows it....suffice to say as a civilian i would stop a shoplifter with the right amount of force that the situation dictates.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 20:29 Post subject: |
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My best friend stole diapers when she was 16. Walked into walmart and threw them under the buggy and walked out the door. Boyfriend left her, after he beat the shit outta her and she barley had enough for food for both of them. She had nothing till the end of the month. Social services was coming over once in a while to check up on her. They don't buy diapers, just take your kid away if you don't have them.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 21:12 Post subject: |
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I shop lift from time to time ... Never have been caught and never will be.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Mar 2011 21:38 Post subject: |
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I used to do it to get shit I couldn't afford, it's as simple as that. Some people I did it with then just did it for the hell of it...
I stopped when risk became greater than the reward... :O
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