Upgrading my PC
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 23:20    Post subject: Upgrading my PC
Im gonna get about 650€ quite soon and I could prolly save some more money if needed.
My current pc:
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So I was planning on getting a new GPU since it's kinda the weekest link with such a monitor. First problem might be the size of the case. I was an idiot and bought an expensive case which has too little room tbh. I had to do a little case mod and put the side ventilator outside the case to fit in custom cooling for gpu and cpu. Would the newer cards fit?.The second problem is prolly the VGA monitor. Would I have to get a new one if I want a decent card?
Also is my motherboard good enough? Would 650W be sufficent? If I need to change too many things I might save up for longer and buy a new PC. feedback plox :>


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 00:47    Post subject:
ugh I hate that case. anywho....650 watt is more than enough, pay more attention to the 12v amps. Any new gfx card should fit, measure the distance from the PCI brackets to the HD brackets for us..

No you don't have to get a new monitor, video cards come with a vga to dvi converter plug.

Motherboard is fine. All you really need a better video card honestly, everything else is fine.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 01:36    Post subject:
yep just pop gtx460 in there and u should be fine
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:09    Post subject:
wicked :3 ill measure when i get back from school :>


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Werelds
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:55    Post subject:
Yeah the PSU is more than fine. CWT build (most of Corsair's PSU are CWT as well for example), multi-rail design and it can handle 18A on each of its 4 rails. Quite a fine PSU Smile

A GTX 460 is 0.75 inch shorter than an 8800 GT, so that should easily fit.

You should wait a few more days though, until we know what the HD6850/6870 are priced like, chances are they'll take the GTX 460's throne at that pricepoint Smile
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:33    Post subject:
should I also buy some extra cooling? well at the moment ive got accelero s2 on my 8800gt.That takes up most of the space, the card itself fits fine.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 12:46    Post subject:
gtx 460 are pretty cold cards comparing even to your old 88, no xtra cooling required
even if u wait for new amd cards, it will take at least 1 or 2 month till the prices drop and it won't be as much, 20-30 euro? it's up to u however
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 12:56    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
even if u wait for new amd cards, it will take at least 1 or 2 month till the prices drop and it won't be as much, 20-30 euro? it's up to u however

The new AMD cards will most likely be faster than 460's yet sell at the same prices Smile
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 13:03    Post subject:
6850 which will cost around 200 euro here when it will be out i'm sure of that, which suppose to be on pair with 460 1gb, which costs atm 170e? don't think so
lets not forget new cards, new drivers, new optimizations will be required so maybe after getting the card u still have to wait for a proper drivers at least a month or a two Wink
dunno about prices in Estonia however
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 13:25    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
6850 which will cost around 200 euro here when it will be out i'm sure of that, which suppose to be on pair with 460 1gb, which costs atm 170e? don't think so
lets not forget new cards, new drivers, new optimizations will be required so maybe after getting the card u still have to wait for a proper drivers at least a month or a two Wink
dunno about prices in Estonia however

170 only goes for the Palit model, rest are all 180+ - 6850 has been spotted at 180 already at one of the most expensive shops (Informatique).
And your driver argument is useless, Evergreen didn't need driver optimisations, I highly doubt Barts will. Assuming AMD are doing it like they did last year, the performance indication from their presentation slides will be close to real-world applications; last year their slides turned out to be worse than the real thing.

Anyway, there's no reason not to wait, since it will all be revealed this friday, 2 days waiting isn't gonna hurt. NVIDIA has no wiggle room left on the 460's - 470's and 480's are already being sold at a loss, I highly doubt they'll drop their cashcow (the 460) to the point where it's not profitable. If the choice is between a 460-1GB and an at-least-equal performing 6850 the choice is pretty easy.
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 13:32    Post subject:
palit 1gb 460 is 180eur here.

oh yes, we're all rich here, so everything is more expensive than in rest of europe....
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 13:35    Post subject:
i see no such card there, unless it's another informatique
besides it was a gainward, not like it makes any difference Razz

and like i said it's up to him
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 13:54    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
i see no such card there, unless it's another informatique

They fucked up and had it online for a few hours 2 days ago while it's still under NDA Wink
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 19:29    Post subject:
I have about 25cm x 15cm room for a gpu. Maybe could be a bit more in length if it goes under the hdd a bit. that enough for the newer cards?


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 19:33    Post subject:
Well you have the 8800GT which a 5850 is only like 2CM longer and a 5870 a few CM onger so you'll have plenty of room


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 20:51    Post subject:
5850 is half an inch longer, 9.5 versus 9 for your 8800GT, so that's 9.5 * 2.54 = 24.13 versus 9 * 2.54 = 22.86cm. 5870 is 10.5 inches, or 10.5 * 2.54 = 26.67 cm.

Moving your HDD up or down a slot will give you plenty of space Smile
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Oct 2010 04:26    Post subject:
ok im gonna buy myself hd 5850. Which one should i buy? Sapphire is the cheapest in the shop im gonna use. But a friend recommended MSI R5850 since ithas better stock cooling than other cards. Im prolly not gonna buy an aftermarket cooler since I only plan to oc moderately. Ive had bad experiences installing my 8800gt cooler(ruined my whole day since memory coolers didnt stick on ).


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Oct 2010 07:21    Post subject:
why not 6870?
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Oct 2010 10:35    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
ok im gonna buy myself hd 5850. Which one should i buy? Sapphire is the cheapest in the shop im gonna use. But a friend recommended MSI R5850 since ithas better stock cooling than other cards. Im prolly not gonna buy an aftermarket cooler since I only plan to oc moderately. Ive had bad experiences installing my 8800gt cooler(ruined my whole day since memory coolers didnt stick on ).

Bad choice. 5850 and 5870 are priced too high now, because they'll be replaced in about 3 weeks. AMD will most likely release Cayman before Black Friday in the US, to take advantage of the shopping spree there Smile

Get a 6850 or 6870. 6850 is a few FPS slower than the 5850 for the most part, in some situations it's faster. 6870 is a few FPS slower than the 6870, but again faster in some situations. Should be around €160-170 for the 6850, around €195-€205 for the 6870 Smile
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Oct 2010 14:58    Post subject:
oh neat i saw a hd 6850 for 190€ in the which is quite cheap for estonia. Gonna buy this one and oc it a bit.

E: did some more research and now im not entirely sure. will wait for more tests and stuff on the new cards.


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