e^(2x) = k (root x)
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:28    Post subject: e^(2x) = k (root x)
fuck I don't remember calc. Question is find k so that the equation has one solution. I know the answer is k = 2e^(1/2), but how do I arrive at that?

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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:49    Post subject:
I assume you mean the equation is e^(2x) = x^(1/k).

1)e^(2x) = x^(1/k)

2)e^(2x)-x^(1/k) = 0

3)-x^(1/k) = -e^(2x)

4)x^(1/k) = e^(2x)

5)1/k = (log(e^(2x)))/(log(x))

6)log(x) = k*log(e^(2x))

7)-k*log(e^(2x)) = -log(x)

8 ) k=(log(x))/(log(e^(2x)))

Preliminary precautions: x can't be zero, log(x) (base is e) can't be zero, e^(2x) can't be zero, log(e^(2x))+2*i*pi*n can't be zero

I really can't fathom how the answer can be as the one you claim it to be. Well, that can be the case if the equation is not the same as the one I presume it to be.


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:55    Post subject:
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I assume you mean the equation is e^(2x) = x^(1/k).


Sorry, wrong assumption. Equation is:

e^(2x) = k * x^1/2.

Wrote it in a hurry, sorry =/


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:59    Post subject:
Heh, at that point the equation is a piece of cake. You just have to divide both sides by sqrt(x), provided you have beforehand reserved that sqrt(x) is not equal to zero.

Edit: Hmm, you have to have the equation be compliant to only one x in order to calculate k... Let me think.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 21:53    Post subject:
you can write k * x^1/2 as k e^(1/2 ln x)
and hmm it has been to long since I wrestled with this stuff Neutral

Edit: then k = e^(1/2 ln x - 2 x)
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 23:13    Post subject:
calculate the derivative of e^(-1/2 ln x +2 x) = 0
insert x and you're done.

the graf of e^(-1/2 ln x + 2 x) has 2 values except at (e^(-1/2 ln x + 2 x))' = 0

edit:
(e^(-1/2 ln x + 2 x))' = 0 => 2-1/(2x) = 0 => x=1/4

e^(-1/2 ln (1/4) + 2 *1/4) = 2 e^(1/2) = k
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Why is everyone speaking alien here all of a sudden?
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Beats me. Do you think the invasion is about to start? If that is the case, I will start cleaning my machine gun.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:21    Post subject:
HubU spoiler that shit please, it's worse than a goatse Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:28    Post subject:
It's not.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:56    Post subject:
2 ^ x + 3 ^ x = 50


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 09:48    Post subject: Re: e^(2x) = k (root x)
tainted4ever wrote:
fuck I don't remember calc. Question is find k so that the equation has one solution. I know the answer is k = 2e^(1/2), but how do I arrive at that?

First one to answer gets a e-blowjob. Cheers,

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But your question makes no sense. If you're finding x then you're in a bit of a trouble, since taking the natural logarithm of the rhs and lhs will give you a natural logarithm of x and that means that x is a multivalued variable... You can't find the numerical solution, since you don't know k...
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 10:03    Post subject:
I think the question means "Find k so that the equation e^(2x) - k*x^(1/2) = 0 has one solution."
This is what is called an implicit function, i.e. you cannot make split it into an independent and dependent parts like y = f(x). In Hebrew, we call these functions "dumb functions" ("פונקציות סתומות"). Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 10:20    Post subject:
2+2 = 4 Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 11:40    Post subject:
Fuck off I solved the shit out of this already!
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 13:12    Post subject:
I just noticed that I couldn't find any analytical solution, or numerical, when taking k into consideration... But it seems that Atropa is right...


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 14:02    Post subject:
damn straight!!
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 14:09    Post subject:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/ can fix that in no time Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 19:20    Post subject:
Hah, wolfram couldn't compute a^n + b^n = c^n.

It did however correctly find X in 2 ^ x + 3 ^ x = 50. It just gives the answer though, not the breakdown.


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Fermat lol


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th May 2010 19:24    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
Fermat lol


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th May 2010 12:28    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Hah, wolfram couldn't compute a^n + b^n = c^n.

It did however correctly find X in 2 ^ x + 3 ^ x = 50. It just gives the answer though, not the breakdown.


That because it's a numerical calculator in a nutshell Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th May 2010 21:07    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
damn straight!!
Yep Atropa seems to have gotten the right solution the right way that the prof wanted Smile Not that it made the last bit of difference in the end, my brother still failed his midterm! But oh well we all tried Smile Thanks A, you get an e-favor in my book Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th May 2010 21:24    Post subject: Re: e^(2x) = k (root x)
tainted4ever wrote:

First one to answer gets a e-blowjob. Cheers,
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Ahem..
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th May 2010 21:27    Post subject: Re: e^(2x) = k (root x)
Atropa wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:

First one to answer gets a e-blowjob. Cheers,
-t


Ahem..


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