Their presentation of higher dimensional perspective isn't entirely accurate, but It's still funny!
Those video's are out of date Ronhrin, according to current refinements in m-theory at least.
But lets be realistic about this, these theories are just conjecture anyway. Since our current capacity to perceive higher dimensional space is limited to sporadic quantum level fluctuations in radiant energy. Something which isn't fully defined in our native 3.5 dimensional space.
I do find that pure mathematicians and theoretical physicists have the tendency to get so abstract they lose all objectivity.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Their presentation of higher dimensional perspective isn't entirely accurate, but It's still funny!
Those video's are out of date Ronhrin, according to current refinements in m-theory at least.
But lets be realistic about this, these theories are just conjecture anyway. Since our current capacity to perceive higher dimensional space is limited to sporadic quantum level fluctuations in radiant energy. Something which isn't fully defined in our native 3.5 dimensional space.
I do find that pure mathematicians and theoretical physicists have the tendency to get so abstract they lose all objectivity.
I never said I agreed with the statements made on those videos, well, their view of the 4th dimension is somehow accurate from an observer with a higher dimensional perception.
I have the conviction that no matter how advanced we evolve, we will eventually hit a limit on our ability to comprehend the universe, in the end we can only really speculate about certain subjects, we are confined in a 3rd dimensional branch of a universe that has a indefinite amount of dimensions and that despite of every theory out there claiming it's size and age, the truth is that they can all very well be wrong due to incomplete, faulty or incorrect observational data.
I shared a notion a while back on this forum about a theory claiming that despite of the probability of countless other universal dimensions, the universe may also very well be infinite (or have a very large amount) of levels of structure.
With this I actually mean that everything we experience at our level of existence, the planets, stars and so forth, is actually no more than an insignificant structural level that exists in top of an infinite amount of levels, our immediate bottom level would be the quantum realm, and everything in our cosmological system would be no more than a structural construct to a higher level of reality.
I believe that to a considerable abstract extend a redefined theory about this subject could unify the universal forces in a different perspective, instead of the unification you find with m-theory where everything is equally symmetric, you would have a system where everything, even the universal forces and laws work like a giant mechanism that operates like a clock with a undetermined amount of pieces.
I once abstractly thought about a system like this could very well be intertwined and curved through extra dimensions where it could be finite in a closed dimensional loop or open and continue the cycle until it reached infinity.
This however is just an abstract construct in my mind, I have never ever tried to see if such a system would be mathematically coherent.
As I said before, I believe that it comes a point where we can only really speculate, we can observe the faint and ultra rapid reactions of colliding protons to see what actually do they break into, and we can see phenomenons up to 13 billion light years away, but we can never actually experiment what does a lepton or a quark break into, if it breaks into anything at all, it is just to small or to big when we think about the biggest structures of the universe.
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- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
Well with our current physiology our capacity for understanding things so many orders of magnitude beyond the stimuli our brains were designed to process is certainly going to be limited. We have to resort to such abstract languages as mathematics in order for it to make enough sense that we can begin manipulating the data. With true understanding this would be intuitive.
There will come a time when humans begin to modify their own bodies, either cybernetically or genetically, and surpass these limitations. Then we can begin to truly explore the possibilities of our universe.
Once that first barrier is broken, and a human is not simply fixed, but enhanced on a fundamental intellectual level, then technological singularity will not be far away.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Well with our current physiology our capacity for understanding things so many orders of magnitude beyond the stimuli our brains were designed to process is certainly going to be limited. We have to resort to such abstract languages as mathematics in order for it to make enough sense that we can begin manipulating the data. With true understanding this would be intuitive.
There will come a time when humans begin to modify their own bodies, either cybernetically or genetically, and surpass these limitations. Then we can begin to truly explore the possibilities of our universe.
Once that first barrier is broken, and a human is not simply fixed, but enhanced on a fundamental intellectual level, then technological singularity will not be far away.
We will, I absolutely agree with you on that, but...
I think that even when that evolutionary mark is reached, it still will be nothing more than achieving the ability to merge our consciousness with the most recent machinery of the specific age, but still, from my perspective I deem extremely unlikely that we are ever to experience reality as it is in the quantum realm or beneath it, if such a structural level were to exist, as for experiencing the largest structures of the cosmos, I can conceive the notion that eventually we are able to, in a very evolved state, wield the very large aspects of the cosmos to work like a machine capable of operate as a host for consciousness.
That, in my perspective would be the point where technological singularity would be achieved, and probably it would only be then that we would be able to perceive how the universe really operates as an absolute, or maybe perhaps we will only be able to glimpse into an equally fundamental level of existence such as the one we are now.
PS: It's sad that only here in the internet can I find individuals of equal intellect, such as yourself (and even here, we are a rarity), the offline world disgusts me with all these people that find happiness in mediocracy of both life and intellect.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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Ben: There’s no way I’m allowing Dan to interact with himself. Who knows where it’d lead.
Dan: Wanking.
interacting with oneself should be left for the 'offline' world, 'cause online it's like doing it in public. it may turn you on, but it disgusts the on-lookers
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