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CaptainCox
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 Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 16:46 Post subject: Where the F is Radeon 9.01? |
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I was under the impression that it was due out like around the 12th of Jan or something, but so far there is not even a RC out...or?
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 17:15 Post subject: |
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Patience little grasshopper.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 18:08 Post subject: |
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Yeah, waiting as well... Maybe they are patching Mirrors Edge 
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 18:26 Post subject: |
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As the DirectX10 multicore improvements are included, the 8.12 hotfixed drivers are probably the 9.1's.
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JBeckman
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009 14:48 Post subject: |
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2009 18:04 Post subject: |
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Starting to give up on this. I know there might not be "huge" improvements implemented, but still...
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2009 20:39 Post subject: |
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My ATI card runs Mirror's Edge fine...great graphics, no bugs etc
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2009 22:17 Post subject: |
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I reinstalled GTA IV yesterday in lack of other stuff at the mo (will install Fallout 3 and OA later but).
Anyho, I was maybe like 5 min in game and the fan on my 4870x2 revs up to probably 100%...I check my G15 screen and it says " GPU 100c" WFT!. I reinstalled 8.12 but same thing.
To tired to start looking if there is dust trapped somewhere, but I really hope that is the culprit...otherwise I will go mad on the weekend chasing my own tail on this. I have a profile for gaming set to 50% and that has always been ok so far...well until yesterday.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2009 22:35 Post subject: |
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Use compressed air to blow the dust out... The last time I did this, I almost chocked on all the dust that came out 
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2009 22:42 Post subject: |
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Yup, stole another can at work today  . But as I said, to tired now, worked to 9:30 PM and for me the only thing in sight at the mo is the bed  .
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 07:50 Post subject: |
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FINALLY !!!!!
9.1
EDIT!:WTF!, clicking any link on that page brings you to 8.12 
Is this some scam or did they not upload the new driver yet, or where they simply to lazy to rename the 8.12 hotfix...and that's all there is 
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 08:22 Post subject: |
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They did the classic lame "post link before file servers are ready"-mistake. Ie. they're readying the new drivers.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 08:29 Post subject: |
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Really hope so. Will have to do this after work then .
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 11:32 Post subject: |
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The Catalyst 9.1 discussion over at AMD forums has some other links as well, but I want an official link dangnabbit!
Just out of curiosity, any of you guys ever bothered with stuff like Driver Sweeper when removing old drivers, or just the usual uninstall=>reboot=>install new ones?
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 11:54 Post subject: |
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If you opt to upgrade and are installing a new driver over the last version (e.g 8.11 to 8.12), a reboot is not required. This function has been available since Catalyst 8.6. A reboot is required though if other components are updated or Crossfire is used.
I don't recommend any 3rd party cleaners.
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=385787
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 13:23 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | The Catalyst 9.1 discussion over at AMD forums has some other links as well, but I want an official link dangnabbit!
Just out of curiosity, any of you guys ever bothered with stuff like Driver Sweeper when removing old drivers, or just the usual uninstall=>reboot=>install new ones? |
I only use a driver sweeper when there's a problem (ie. catalyst installer hangs for some reason etc.)..
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 14:42 Post subject: |
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Normally I'd install the latest and greatest, but I'm hearing that the multicore optimisations implemented in the 8.12 hotfix drivers are not present in the 9.1's. Not to mention the hotfix 8.12's run everything absolutely fine for me.
Turns out that the 8.573 drivers are the final ones. They do not include the multicore optimisation, have to wait till 9.2 for that. 9.1's are 76% OpenGL 3.0 compliant with 16 / 21 extensions now available.
9.1 on http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx finally
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 17:07 Post subject: |
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This release of ATI Catalyst™ provides full OpenGL™ 3.0 extension support.
The following is a list of OpenGL™ 3.0 extensions added in Catalyst 9.1:
• ARB_framebuffer_object
• ARB_half_float_vertex
• ARB_texture_rg
• EXT_texture_array
• EXT_texture_integer
• EXT_transform_feedback
• NV_conditional_render
• WGL/GLX_create_context (for new 3.0 contexts)
• GLSL 1.3
• ARB_color_buffer_float
• ARB_vertex_array_object
• EXT_draw_buffers2 |
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009 19:42 Post subject: |
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It's up now on the official ATI site... took some time hey!.
EDIT: My bad, did not see that "ManMountain" already posted.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 04:44 Post subject: |
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Anyone else with 4870x2 care to try Mirror's Edge, it actually performs way worse now... Heh and it was smooth in 8.12, pfft.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 05:42 Post subject: |
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Fixes in 9.1's:
| Quote: | Resolved Issues for Windows Vista and Windows XP Operating Systems
# “Move to Monitor” option does not work for some Open GL application
# Playing back MPEG2 files may fail to respond when task switching between virtual desktops in extended desktop mode
# Restoring to factory default, Catalyst Control Center may become unresponsive when multidesktop is enabled
# Catalyst Control Center: display index number are not the same as Displays Manager in Graphics Settings
# Catalyst Control Center: Some Catalyst text labels may be missing “General Settings Option” under Windows Traditional Chinese
# Catalyst Control Center: System may become unresponsive when uninstalling Hydravision package with all HV aspects checked in multi adapter configurations
# Catalyst Control Center: Enabling "Enable Desktop Manager" and "Enable Multi Desktop" will cause the following to be displayed in the Windows Task Manager HydraDM64 and HydraMD64
# Catalyst Control Center: Preparing Help dialog window will come up in English on other localized Windows operating systems
# About Catalyst Control Center window may display some text corruption, when launched from the system tray
# Catalyst Control Center stops working when skin is changed to Quicksilver
Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System
# With some ATI Radeon adapters and Windows Vista 64 systems with more than 4 GB of system memory the display driver may fail to load and report a code 43 error
# Some video performance playback may be noticed when using the latest version of Pixela
# Video combing effects may be noticed during movie playback while fast forwarding or rewinding
# Catalyst Control Center: some screen corruption may be noticed after enabling 1080p HDMI support and adjusting the scaling options
# Video may not fill secondary display when playing back HD 1080i content with Overlay Theater Mode enabled
# Launching Medal Of Honor Allied Assault Spearhead game demo may result in a system stopped working error
# Unable to extend the display to a secondary adapter until the system has been restarted after enable/disable CrossFire
# Reinstalling the display driver using the INF method on a multi-display (ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2, Radeon HD 3870) system may cause the operating system to fail
# Playing Picture-in-Picture on a DVD with PowerCinema or PowerDVD may cause the system to halt.
# System may become unstable when mode switching during playback of blu-ray content using WinDVD
# System becomes unresponsive exiting Windows Media Center while playing high definition content
# DXVA2 Video Decoder DDI Test failures on R7xx ASICs on Windows Vista Systems
# Some interlacing may be noticed when fast forwarding a DVD playback
# Catalyst Control Center: system may fail to boot after disabling CrossFire with dual ATI Radeon HD 48xx adapters
# System unresponsive on reboot after installing the Catalyst 8.12 driver on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series CrossFire
Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System
# Catalyst Control Center Runtime does not restart automatically after HydraVision installation in Windows XP
# Catalyst Control Center: Hydravision tab is not shown in limited user accounts for Windows XP 64 bit
# Test corruption may be noticed when display is rotated to 'Left (90 ccw)' in resolutions greater than 1600 x 1200
# Playing back some HD MPEG2 videos will either shows black or show a reduced Overlay Theater mode on the secondary display
# TV may fail to display an image after installing the display driver with an HD-TV connected using DVI-HDMI adapter
# Video corruption may be noticed with some DVI monitors during a mode switch
# On some systems the following ATI warning dialog may be displayed after a system restore “Not enough displays to enable driver. Add another display device and try again.
# Unable to install SMBus driver on ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics with ATI graphic card and integrated graphics disabled |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 05:57 Post subject: |
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Just upgraded to 9.1 and damn, games run better and everything. I know you techie's are gunna disagree with me, but I think its a fantastic update/driver package.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 08:19 Post subject: |
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It takes time for ATI, especially in titles where NVIDIA has the upper hand or has sponsored the devs via the "The way it's meant to be played program"
This driver seems to focus fully on bringing up OpenGL 3.0 support and general stability for the drivers and ATI CCC.
Multi-core optimizations for DX10 will probably be included in 9.2 and hopefully that driver will include some performance improvements for the latest titles, as a comparison work on big titles like Far Cry 2, Fallout 3 and Clear Sky only recently had a performance push in Catalyst 8.12 and it's hotfixes.
For Mirrors Edge in general for X2 and Crossfire users one thing to do is to either disable Catalyst AI or rename the EXE file to for example SAM2.exe which will force Crossfire (Enable advanced Catalyst AI as well to further improve performance and don't enable physics unless you have a PPU card or similar as the glass effect will lower performance to single digits at times.)
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 09:36 Post subject: |
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Didn't try disabling Cat AI with 8.12 (since there wasn't any problems tbh), but with 9.1 it just makes things worse. Renaming's off the table as well, no performance increase plus sam2 screws up the player character shadows.
No idea really what's going on here, I've tried changing all the settings that I can think of but no dice.. Someone on guru3d or someplace mentioned a solid 60 FPS with vsync on with these drivers, same card and res. and a worse cpu (q6600, mine's q9550 @ 3.4GHz)... of course he might've been talking out of his ass, but 20'ish FPS can't be right.
And every other game works like it's supposed to so there shouldn't be anything screwy with my system, either. One interesting quirk with these new drivers & Mirror's Edge is that when I launch the game, the mouse cursor image stays on the screen as a flicker - alt-tab out and in again and it's gone, but that for some reason lowers the FPS even further. That didn't use to happen with 8.12.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 10:50 Post subject: |
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I rolled back to the 8.12 hotfix as with 9.1 my desktop randomly froze.
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