Hard Drive - Speed drops down to almost 0 randomly
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2009 20:24    Post subject: Hard Drive - Speed drops down to almost 0 randomly
Been having this problem for awhile. Got this hard drive (WD6400AAKS) Western Digital 640GB - about 6 months ago. About a month or 2 ago, I noticed my windows crawling. Reformatted xp, took out memory, all cards, etc. Finally figured out it was this harddrive transfer speed so slow.

So, I RMA'ed it. Got a recertified back. Put it in, works a few days - then XP stalls. Run HD Tune Pro - benchmark transfer speeds show 3.0 mb/sec again. I finally figured out I need to uninstall the device in windows, reboot, then HD goes back to 100 MB/sec speeds. But, it will last for a few hours (keep pc on all day/shut down each night). I always know because windows crawls.

I also replaced the power supply thinking it was that. Could I have a second defective HD? My mobo is Abit IP-35E. Already swapped SATA channels on board, swapped SATA cables, even tried different jumper settings, updated bios to latest, ran full error scan - no damaged blocks.

I have 2 other hard drives (both sata) - not as fast - but there speeds always remain constant. I use this WD as my boot drive cause its fast and the 2nd partition as storage.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2009 21:40    Post subject:
You didn't say if you updated your chipset drivers to latest. Maybe it's related to the SATA controllers.
Also, test a few hours with a Linux boot cd to see if it's truly a hardware problem.
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2009 23:05    Post subject:
Chipset - I just updated it to the latest on Intels Website. The one Ive been using came with the board on CD. Im really hoping thats it. So far, I rebooted and speed its 100 MB/sec as it should. But normally, it doesnt last long. Will monitor it and see.


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 05:55    Post subject:
Still happening. I figured out more to it.

Primary IDE Channel is showing PIO mode when drive slows to a crawl. I uninstall it, reboot, then it shows Ultra DMA 5 mode.

This is a SATA hard drive. What is causing it to go from DMA to PIO over a few hours? I have 4 SATA ports on my mobo. Ive tried them all - and only this drive goes back to PIO. Bios is set to AUTO detect.. any ideas?


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 06:23    Post subject:
todd72173 wrote:
Still happening. I figured out more to it.

Primary IDE Channel is showing PIO mode when drive slows to a crawl. I uninstall it, reboot, then it shows Ultra DMA 5 mode.

This is a SATA hard drive. What is causing it to go from DMA to PIO over a few hours? I have 4 SATA ports on my mobo. Ive tried them all - and only this drive goes back to PIO. Bios is set to AUTO detect.. any ideas?


My only guess at this point is that your drive is on the fritz. Try to surf the makers website and see if you can find an updated firmware or their diagnostic tool.


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 06:28    Post subject:
This is my second drive (WD6400AAKS) - Western Digital just mailed me this one to replace my other one and same issue.

There is no firmware upgrade for it. I ran HD Tune pro and Seatools - full scan - no errors.

I read that Daemon Tools can cause this drives to go from DMA to PIO. I uninstalled Daemon tools for now to see if that does anything.


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Jan 2009 05:35    Post subject:
So far so good. Drive is staying in DMA mode since uninstalling damean tools. Keeping fingers crossed. Using MagicISo as a replacement.


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2009 15:17    Post subject:
HD went back to PIO mode. So, it was not DAEMON Tools Pro ADVANCED 4.10.B218.0 after all. I changed Sata ports again on the mobo. I noticed in bios drive was not being displayed as SATA. After I changed ports, its now displaying as sata (Secondary primary master). I read some mobo's dont work right with the newer harddrives using NCQ. I already am running latest bios update, so that wont fix it. We'll see how long this lasts..
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Feb 2009 15:34    Post subject:
not sure if this will help you, but i remembered this when i read about your problem

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f61/fix-dma-turned-into-pio-problem-222229/
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Feb 2009 16:13    Post subject:
Thanks for the link. I actually had read those articles too. It seems my issue is a little different as my hard drive starts in DMA..then mysteriously goes into pio mode without reason. I really think it has something to do with the bios and not software related.
Whenever I reboot my pc - the hard drive is always ok and set to dma - ultra mode 5..

Well, since I changed sata ports again to now the last slot I didnt try on my mobo - its ok now. Its too bad Abit went under as I have no support help anymore with my mobo..only a year old too.

Im hoping it stays working..this drive is really fast (100+ MB/sec transfer rates) and it would be ashame that it keeps on acting up..thanks to all for your suggestions..


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Feb 2009 20:16    Post subject:
I believe I fixed problem. Here how:

It appears my harddrive switched from DMA mode to PIO mode only when the following was running:
GTA 4 - Run from 2nd partition of same harddrive
Newsbin - downloads folder was set to a different harddrive, however - the main program was set to the 1st partition of the hardrive in question

Ive noticed newsbin creates many files in 'chunk' folder within folder the program was installed in (no way of changing this location). I think what was happening is GTA 4 + Newsbin chunks = Too many reads/writes to the harddrive, thus causing it to drop to PIO for safety.

It took me a long time to narrow it down to this. SO to fix it - I just re-installed Newsbin on an entirely separate hard drive from GTA4. So, now I can continue to do both and so far no issues.

Is this normal or heard of?
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2009 01:41    Post subject:
I have (hopefully HAD) the exact same problem - only on windows xp (on vista it works with no problems) and since i decided 2 days ago to switch back to xp i bumped into it again

What i did:
From my understanding: xp switches your hardrive from udma to pio after the IDE/ATAPI Port driver receives a cumulative total of 6(?) time-outs or CRC errors; and you can modify some registry keys to make the os switch to pio only after 6(?) consecutive errors, resetting the counter on succes
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\
and check there for the subkeys: 0000, 0001, 0002. 0003 etc
First check the DriverDesc value for the subkeys, to see wich one corresponds with your hardrives, and then add a new DWORD value, name it ResetErrorCountersOnSuccess, and then modify it to 1 (could be that some of the subkeys already have this fix)
Hope that helped
I'm gonna buy a new cable tomorrow and see how that goes


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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Feb 2009 17:28    Post subject:
This may sound dumb, but I've had the same issue a couple times in the past.

I found, everytime, that the speed wen't back up after replacing the sata/ide cable.
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Mar 2009 17:26    Post subject:
HD went back to PIO mode. I just edited registry as stated above. Lets see if that works..thanks for the advise..


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