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 Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:00 Post subject: just got a new gpu card and all games crash |
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gidday mates,
well i had a 8800gt oc that worked fine but it fried and in return i got a 9800.
in all the games i play (tried like 5-6) i can play for 5-10 minutes and then the screen just becomes a solid color (in POP brown, GTA pink i was in the bowling, CoDWaW blue like on the forums here, dead space went plack)
so i tried uninstalling the drivers did a driver clean up and tried both nvidia 180.48-84 drivers and it still happens.
anyone have any idea?
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LeoNatan
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Wow, this is a bizarre problem, never heard of it before... Have you tried logging the temperatures of the card while playing? It could be overheating...
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:37 Post subject: |
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Yup, sounds like overheating and/or insufficient PSU (that could also be the reason for your old gfx frying).
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:39 Post subject: |
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Sounds like a heat prob like iNatan said. Could well be that you need to get that gracard RMAed or somet.
Get EVEREST to check your temps real time.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:45 Post subject: |
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does your rig only crash during gaming? were you able to test a simular card with external power on your rig to see if its something else than your own card that is at fault?
make sure the fan isnt blocked by a wire or something
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:16 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | Sounds like a heat prob like iNatan said. Could well be that you need to get that gracard RMAed or somet.
Get EVEREST to check your temps real time. |
Why does everyone assume it's heat? Anyway, I had weird problems with video card (artifacts, crashes) in the past and it wasn't heat related at all. It was PSU. It's unlikely a brand new card can overheat.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:42 Post subject: |
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Yea, could be PSU as well. But if you get a fuked card it's fuked...happens, no?.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:46 Post subject: |
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You say that your old 8800gt fried, How much did you have it overclocked
Try a different card in it just to test if the mobo is damage.
and how big is your PSU?
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:52 Post subject: |
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cant be heat my old card would go up to 85c and work fine this one gets to like 50-60 it has big heatsink pipes and two fans onboard.
my psu is a hec 500W and i have the 9800gt twintec :
http://www.twintech3d.com/
i have the gt but with the gtx heatsink.
a c2d e6550 2.4 4gb ram xp pro
5 fans 3 harddrives and a dvddrive.
is the 500w PSU enough for all that? it did work before but the old 8800 had a small fan on it this has 2 bigger ones.
shuold i try unpluging some fans and shit?
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:57 Post subject: |
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you happen to have a friend who would let you stick the 9800gt in his computer to make sure it works?
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 21:58 Post subject: |
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better cards = better PSU's
Try out the Thermaltake ToughPower 700W with Cable Management (better case airflow).
Also notice that better cards needs PSU's better Rails and Amps thingy...
Go here http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and put all you said there,then Calculate..if you think the powerage is bottleneck or is too risky change ya PSU
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:18 Post subject: |
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i did the check and it came out around 400W.
could it be anything else then heat or power?
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:22 Post subject: |
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it's not only about the Watts of ya PSU but your ATX Rails and Ampers...
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:38 Post subject: |
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BTW, these are almost never trustworthy. 
שייטת13, try reinstalling Windows before wasting money on a new PSU (I doubt that's the problem, he ran the 8800GT on that PSU and it was fine, and the 9800GT isn't all that of a change).
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:49 Post subject: |
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damn, i dont have to time to start reinstalling windows, i just did it a few months ago.
i played POP 3 times twice it froze at nearly the same point and just now about 2 minutes into the game.
it cant be heat and shouldnt be the power. must be something :\
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:50 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | I once had a problem, I was sure it was the power supply ... went through all the effort to replace it .. turned out to be an overheating CPU. |
I had the same thing with A64 4000+... Everyone said it's the PSU, even 'proved' to me by telling me how low some digits were on SpeedFan. I replaced my PSU with a quality one, and surprise surprise  , it was the CPU overheating.
So it could be a lot of things, with the PSU being the highly unlikely factor (but possible). |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:53 Post subject: |
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| Shayetet13 wrote: | | must be something :\ |
Get this:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html
And run both the core and the memory tests for overclocking of the GPU (don't overclock, just the tests). |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 22:54 Post subject: |
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your 12v rails could be better.
I've got a 510 PC Power & Cooling that has 34a on my 12's
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 23:17 Post subject: |
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i started running the test and the screen went white. same problem.
could i think its software related because when the games freeze and icant
start+d or alt+F4 or ctrl alt dlt nothing just frozen with sound that isnt looping voices stop and there is just the backround music.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 23:30 Post subject: |
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I'd just skip all the diagnostics and RMA the fucking thing. If card #2 does the same shit then try to figure out what's wrong.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 23:33 Post subject: |
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If he's from IL, as I think he is, he will have a very hard time convincing the sellers there's a problem with the card. You have no idea how dumb the are (or make themselves are appear to be)... 
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 23:39 Post subject: |
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so you think its the card? wierd, if only been using it for 2 days fresh out of the wrapper
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2008 14:53 Post subject: |
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i disconnected all fans and hdds ecept the main one and it still happend so i dont think it has to do with power.
i just played gta and after 10 minutes it just froze it didnt change to a solid color.
half the time it freezes the picture half the time it becomes a sloid color
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2008 22:26 Post subject: |
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It probably depends on which stage of the drawing it happens.
Reinstall Windows, if that doesn't happen take the card back to the store.
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