Soccer? American Football?
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 15:58    Post subject: Soccer? American Football?
This is one that has always boggled my mind.

Yanks renamed Football (as in the global sport where you use your feet to dribble, kick, shoot, pass a perfectly round ball) to Soccer. Meanwhile they named a completely different game based on Rugby to American Football, a game where they spend 99% of the time running around with something that is NOT even remotely shaped as a ball in their hands.

It reminds me of the kidification (as in baby-talk) of the word aluminium. In USA they call it aluminum, like a 4-year old would pronounce the word before having learned the correct pronunciation.

But I guess it's nothing strange for a people that voted the dumbest chimp-of-a-president into office... TWICE!!!! Rolling Eyes

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disclaimer: all puns intended in a good spirited fashion. all nations and peoples have peculiarities that can be made fun of.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 16:14    Post subject:
The list can go on Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 16:23    Post subject:
I talked about it with someone here in PM, I agree. The real football is the one where the foot touches the ball, not the one where over-masculine men hold the ball in their hands. Wink

BTW, while we don't like the sport (American Football), there are much tactics in it, so it's not all bad. But it's the sport itself, I don't know, I just don't like it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 16:25    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I talked about it with someone here in PM, I agree. The real football is the one where the foot touches the ball, not the one where over-masculine men hold the ball in their hands. Wink

BTW, while we don't like the sport (American Football), there are much tactics in it, so it's not all bad. But it's the sport itself, I don't know, I just don't like it.


It's not even a ball. A ball is round, the thing they use in American "Football" is not. They can't even get that one thing right. Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 17:31    Post subject:
now now you non-north american sons of bitches, don't hate.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 17:33    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
now now you non-north american sons of bitches, don't hate.


I agree with them Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 17:37    Post subject:
It's just a name. Whether you call it football or rugby, it remains a very brutish game. And on the topic of american english, it is pretty much similar to 'standard' english. You should see the differences (and I don't mean accents but totally new words added) between portuguese and brazillian. Or the way spanish is spoken in different parts of the world.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 17:37    Post subject:
Well its a well known scientific proven fact that people born in certain parts of the world have lower IQ's(some parts there's even doubt whether or not intelligent life is actually present), Europe and China tend to be the smartest, dunno about the rest of the world though. Not pointing the finger to America here eh, I might be talking about it, but then again I might not.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 18:07    Post subject:
cnZ wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations#National_IQ_estimates


Hehe, I spotted something funny on that page:

Quote:
The authors write that it is the ethical responsibility of rich, high-IQ nations to financially assist poor, low-IQ nations, as it is the responsibility of rich citizens to assist the poor.

I can hear the greedy corporate elite shouting: "What? Commies, bloody commies. Why should I spend a single dime on those inferior low-lifes when all they are good for are shoveling shit off my mansion driveway!!!?"


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 18:11    Post subject:
looks like bullshit piled on top of bullshit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations#Criticism


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 18:14    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
looks like bullshit piled on top of bullshit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations#Criticism


Of course, it can only be used in a veeeery broad perspective, and even then the margin for error is too large to have the results be of any practical use.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 18:19    Post subject:
yo seriously stfu with that people in one part of the world are smarter than the other part of the world.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 19:06    Post subject:
Heh it's not that strange Waldo.. though I'm not sure I'd call it smarter. IQ-scores are more about learning than genetics, so don't worry, it's nothing racist.

Unless you're black. Then you're born dumb and lazy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 19:21    Post subject:
it is racist. saying that intellect is part of race. how is that not racist?? Jush drop the subject. Education is differs from country to country, cost of education varies from country to country, from free to mad expensive.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 19:30    Post subject:
learning != intellect

there


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 19:33    Post subject:
exuctly.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 19:43    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
learning != intellect

there


To me intellect is a combination of knowledge and the ability to use abstract logic (IQ) with that knowledge (make deductions, draw complex conclusions based on static knowledge and further the understanding). Someone with lots and lots of knowledge may not have a particularly strong intellect (people in game shows), and someone who is very intelligent may not have had the opportunity to take in knowledge (very smart working class people).


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 20:22    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
helvete wrote:
learning != intellect

there


To me intellect is a combination of knowledge and the ability to use abstract logic (IQ) with that knowledge (make deductions, draw complex conclusions based on static knowledge and further the understanding).


What you are describing in italics is more akin to Wisdom. At least according to my many years of RPG stat study! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 00:32    Post subject:
What should the sport currently called American football be renamed to, a name that properly reflects the sport like football does. Holdball ? Padball ? Touchball ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 00:38    Post subject:
Its called fotball in Norway... yeah thats right bitches, with only one "o" Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 06:36    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:
What should the sport currently called American football be renamed to, a name that properly reflects the sport like football does. Holdball ? Padball ? Touchball ?

American Rugby, I think it is exactly that.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 06:45    Post subject:
Just cause you Euro types couldn't get the game right doesn't mean you need to hate. We renamed the game of Soccer because we knew you Euro types couldn't play the real football.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 07:28    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
ChinUp wrote:
What should the sport currently called American football be renamed to, a name that properly reflects the sport like football does. Holdball ? Padball ? Touchball ?

American Rugby, I think it is exactly that.


problem is that we play rugby too Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 07:34    Post subject:
Rugby football evolved from football. American football evolved from rugby football. So it should be named American rugby football? That's catchy!

The name American football (or just football IN America) has been around for 150 years, so maybe you should ask some dead guy.

kidification? you've got to be kidding me...please DO step down off that high soapbox
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 07:43    Post subject:
There's a sport Americans are really good at, they'r just about the best in the world at it, and that sport is called 'couchpatato'ing and getting fat', so they do have people that are actually good at something:LOL:


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 14:17    Post subject:
tedrotheredro wrote:
Rugby football evolved from football. American football evolved from rugby football. So it should be named American rugby football? That's catchy!

The name American football (or just football IN America) has been around for 150 years, so maybe you should ask some dead guy.

kidification? you've got to be kidding me...please DO step down off that high soapbox


It doesn't change the fact that American FOOTBALL is a game where you spent 99% of the game HOLDING something that is NOT a ball. It's the simple fact that you've then turned it into a cultural truth that is so strikingly funny. Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 14:27    Post subject:
Back when they invented the sport they used to call it 'American Footspheroid' but somehow it didn't catch on cuz most americans couldn't comprehend the word spheroid let alone pronounce it, hence they renamed spheroid to ball and thats the real truth behind it. It was called that for just a little while but many Americans confused it with hemorrhoids and they thought it was a sport where people with anal pain were running around doing excercises to relieve their hellish condition Laughing




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 14:30    Post subject:
Before that it was American handspheroidyoukickwiththefootonceortwice, but it was too long. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 14:34    Post subject:
I agree the only leg usage is done by the kicker and the punter, more appropriate name would be 'Tackleball' there is a lot of that or 'Blockball' but most Americans can't even speak english properly so it doesn't really matter what they call it. Of course they also call the winners 'World Champions' which is dumb, NBA teams lose to Euro teams regulary in recent memory, there should be a final match between the nba winner and the euroleague winner then the winner of that can claim the title same thing for football (soccer). Just to be non-discriminating you can also put an Asian team in there if they play the sport at all.
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