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 Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2008 20:59 Post subject: |
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OMFG I HAVE TO HAVE IT AMD
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2008 00:04 Post subject: |
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I don't know why but I had the strange feeling of i7 when reading the first article...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 03:16 Post subject: |
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I just ponied up for a new Asus mobo, 6 gigs of DDR3 memory, an i7 intel chip (2.66 ghz), BFG GFX 280 graphics card.
First time I ever was in a position to build a new system within 10 months aftr building the system I currently own. But, it's Christmas and the son wanted a new computer. . . so he will get my hand downs again. Heheh.
That AMD chip sounds really sweet. I was a HUGE AMD fan back in the day. They kinda lost me along the way but this certainly looks like a step in the right direction.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 03:21 Post subject: |
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Would you need a new Mobo for the processor? (already have an amd quad).
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 05:48 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Would you need a new Mobo for the processor? (already have an amd quad). |
Yeah. its a new socket type.
Shows up in Vista as running 8 cores. . . lol.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 05:49 Post subject: |
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I thought it was going to be AM2+
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Rinze
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 06:43 Post subject: |
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I think Big_Gun is talking about his i7. The AMD processors will be mostly AM3, and a few AM2+. The AM2+ processors should fit in old motherboards for quad cores, but the motherboard might need a bios upgrade before installing a new processor.
btw, the L2 cache is 1.5 to 2 MB, not 8 as said in the first post, the other 6 MB is the L3 cache.
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 14:28 Post subject: |
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| Rinze wrote: | I think Big_Gun is talking about his i7. The AMD processors will be mostly AM3, and a few AM2+. The AM2+ processors should fit in old motherboards for quad cores, but the motherboard might need a bios upgrade before installing a new processor.
btw, the L2 cache is 1.5 to 2 MB, not 8 as said in the first post, the other 6 MB is the L3 cache. |
Yeah I was talking about my i7. Dunno what i was thinking. Sorry for the confusion.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 14:56 Post subject: |
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Looks like they learned nothing from the Athlon '+' naming debacle.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 06:56 Post subject: |
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Ah fuck it, Im not into OCing anyway. When the standard speed of processors reaches 4ghz or more (without OCing), I will buy a new comp.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 07:04 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Ah fuck it, Im not into OCing anyway. When the standard speed of processors reaches 4ghz or more (without OCing), I will buy a new comp. |
lol don't think thats ever going to happen. Everytime they start getting up there they fall back down. |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 07:09 Post subject: |
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It will happen man. I remember when ppl said they'd never reach 1ghz processor...now you can buy a 3ghz.
Give it a year or 2 and you will see 4ghz comps
Do you honestly think that they arent gunna try to make comps faster? Just "Oh, its at 3ghz, lets leave it there and lets kill R&D"...seriously.
I remember when vids cards were 32mb and that was the big thing and the said you couldnt get any more mem into a vid card...I have 2gb vid card...
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Cuz most ppl arent into ocing. I would do it myself, but it voids your warranty and then your fucked if your comp fries...thats why I dont. My quad works fast enough for me.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:40 Post subject: |
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The thing is that the stock speed of processors would have crossed 4 or even 5Ghz long ago but the real problem is heat dissipation. All these amazing OCs that we see didn't happen because of overclockers wanting it. They happen because the potential for those speeds is already there but current methods of air-cooling can't handle the heat. And therefore the chip-makers are selling the cpus with low factory set speeds so as to not be responsible for burnt chips.
Read somewhere about some really high-tech cooling technologies being explored at the atomic level. Something about sandwiching layers of cooling materials within the cpu.
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 23:31 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: |
Cuz most ppl arent into ocing. I would do it myself, but it voids your warranty and then your fucked if your comp fries...thats why I dont. My quad works fast enough for me. |
I've done it for years...actually more than 10, think I started with a cyrix 686. Never had one processor fry. And I'm not even close to being an expert on the subject. Just played with bios settings and timings and everything else till it just ran fast + stable. Of course it took hrs, sometimes days to get everything just right, but I've found its pretty damn near hard to 'fry' a processor. Unless I guess you are dumb enough to crank all timings to full and/or cant figure out how to properly seat a cooler, and in that case you would be an blockhead for even trying to oc without even basic know-how.
True, it does def take some life out of the chip. I remember an xp 1700+ that I had running @ 2.5 ghz (more than 50% oc which is pretty huge), although I ran it more than a year and a half, I remember when last taking apart the build the chip was pretty warped. Still worked like a champ, tho! I actually sold that build to a friend and lasted a couple yrs after that even! So yeah, you maybe get 5 yrs off a chip instead of 15. But realistically who has the same cpu for 10 or even 5 yrs?
And as far as warranty, I've gone through more than a dozen..maybe 20+ chips in my computing history. Never had one go bad. Memory, video card, mobo, power supply, ect ect but never cpu. I've known ppl who have had their whole system totaled, but mostly because of shitty wiring/pwr supply and then youre screwed as far as warranty goes anyways.
Anyways the moral of my rambling post is that moderate OCing, especially with the safeguards and idiot-proofing along with cpus being relatively durable, really shouldn't scare anyone with a bit of enthusiast in em. It's just spending some extra time and being awarded with free performance with something(a rarity these days) that is engineered and built way better than is necessary.
Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz | 6GB OCZ DDR3 8-8-8-24 @ 1600mhz | eVga x58 Mobo | 2 x eVga GTX 460 SLI | Intel X25-M + 3x Seagate + WD Black = 2.75TB | X-Fi Titanium | PCP&C Silencer 750 | G15 KB | G5 Mouse | G35 Headset | Z-5500 Digital | Samsung T260HD
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 23:48 Post subject: |
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BTW, CPU's shut down the computer anyways once it starts to hit it's heatthreshold. AMD HAS done it since their AMD XP series. I only claim that series as that's when I got into pc gaming, my first real CPU was an AMD XP 1700.
The first time I built a computer I couldn't get it to work, it kept shutting off on me and was starting to upset me. I turned it on maybe a total of 20 something times trying to force it to run. I failed and took it to a shop. Turns out I didn't put any thermo compound between the heatsink and CPU.
And to this day, even though I did that almoist 7 years ago, that chip is still running. It's currently going back into another system build.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2008 16:14 Post subject: |
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| Rinze wrote: | I think Big_Gun is talking about his i7. The AMD processors will be mostly AM3, and a few AM2+. The AM2+ processors should fit in old motherboards for quad cores, but the motherboard might need a bios upgrade before installing a new processor.
btw, the L2 cache is 1.5 to 2 MB, not 8 as said in the first post, the other 6 MB is the L3 cache. |
hey you got any articles saying which of the phenom II will be on the AM2+ socket? I'm building a new computer soon so I plan on getting the 6000+ and intend on the going to those phenom II's |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2008 16:58 Post subject: |
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| S.S.S wrote: | Is it only me or does i7 sounds very Appleish ? 
I mean , ibook , iphone , ipod ect.........Kind of lame for a processor name if you ask me , especially from Intel. Yeah i know i'm picky but you won't find someone more anti-Mac than me so  |
what's funny is that oh so awesome i7, intel is using AMD's architecture and theres some ongoing law suit about it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-i7-nehalem-cpu,2041.html
None the less, it'll be interesting to see what it can do, seeing how much ass the core 2 duo's kicked.
BTW, I can fully expect apple to throw some suit about them using the "i" in their chip name. They tried getting a copy right on that shit in the past so no one could name anything with the "i" the same way they do. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2008 17:29 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | hey you got any articles saying which of the phenom II will be on the AM2+ socket? I'm building a new computer soon so I plan on getting the 6000+ and intend on the going to those phenom II's |
Only the 920 and the 940 will be AM2+. But there are some Athlons which look promising although those are quads as well so no dual core for the AM2+.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Dec 2008 02:14 Post subject: |
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quad it is than 
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