Fucking Lenovo cache SSD
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 18:30    Post subject: Fucking Lenovo cache SSD
So the cache Sandisk 16GB SSD of my parent's Lenovo gave up again, after just 1,5 years..
The old one was RMA'd, not sure about the new one, since the laptop is no longer in guarantee..


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 20:17    Post subject:
Does it work without it ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 22:27    Post subject:
Yeah, but it runs much slower..

it's funny how SMART says it's ok, but when I run a check disk every sector is broken


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 23:15    Post subject:
Odd, SSDs aren't supposed to be used for cache - it shortens their life spans drastically. Isn't it the inhertic nature of SSD's that cause the failure? If you count that cache gets altered constantly, the drive could have reached its rewrite-limit very quickly. It's why SSD drive are supposed to have cache disabled and why you're supposed to have a lot of memory to negate the negatives.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Mar 2014 20:32    Post subject:
Lots of laptops have SSDs for cache. It ain't pretty but it works if you can't afford to have a decent SSD drive for the system. I'm guessing intel SSDs are better suited though, they are usually the most reliable.
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Mar 2014 08:01    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
Lots of laptops have SSDs for cache. It ain't pretty but it works if you can't afford to have a decent SSD drive for the system. I'm guessing intel SSDs are better suited though, they are usually the most reliable.


Sounds to me it's an underhanded way to cheat benchmark scores in reviews. Hardware corps love pulling that shit. If the SSD drive is not designed to last long this way, it's cheating - and I can't imagine a cache SSD lasting long full stop.

I forgot the name of the brand (they are no longer very active due to bad publicity) but a maker of SSD drives used a trick where the drive would perform much faster if it was only a quarter full by basically writing the data twice. Since the drive could read from two locations at once, of course it was faster. Most sites did benchmarks on the drive when it had a fresh install of Windows and little else so it got excellent benchmarks except that one site discovered the trickery and loads of sites pulled back their reviews as a result. The drives were unreliable as well with loads of them crashing.
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Mar 2014 16:47    Post subject:
I can tell you that it works almost as well as a full SSD.
Lenovo use their own version of Intel Rapid Start (or something) called - ExpressCache.
The E430 with the SSD initialized and filled boots for under 10sec. Without it it boots for around 30-40sec.
Additionally starting programs in already booted environment is also sleeker.

I told them that if the SSD (which they checked was a SanDisk16GB replaced 1year and 1 month ago) was blown, I'd like a full new 64 or 128GB SSD installed.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 18:10    Post subject: Re: Fucking Lenovo cache SSD
StrEagle wrote:
So the cache Sandisk 16GB SSD of my parent's Lenovo gave up again, after just 1,5 years..
The old one was RMA'd, not sure about the new one, since the laptop is no longer in guarantee..


Dont know about Bulgaria and in regards to items in items, but normally here if you rma an item, the waranty should then count from that new date.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 19:25    Post subject:
no, here you can rma until the original guarantee expires, even if they replaced the whole product - the warranty is still until the original date

edit:
So I bought an Intel 120GB 525 mSAT for 100eur

WOW this thing is TINY!! Shocked



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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2014 21:14    Post subject:
looks cool, how fast is it ? looks like this solves my problem of not having the latest sata speed on my mobo by using that little mini pci slot below the cpu ? think it works on an older core i7 920 motherboard?
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