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CaptainCox
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Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 20:38 Post subject: Lian Li 1100B case with Water Cooling... |
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Ok, here is the deal. Nakitu (il bastardo) of course said with some sarcasm , got me thinking in my "Enzotech" thread
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40461
I got a Lian-Li 1100B case (good case etc)
And I stumbled on some reviews/ articles about Koolance "Drop in" systems.
Koolance INX-720BK Cooling Kit
with this CPU cooling Block
Now I know that Koolance have the Lian-Li 1100 as a sort of reference case for the INX-720BK, and that it will fit etc. Thing is, I don't really want to buy a new case as this one fits perfectly under my desk and basically I don't see the point in spending money on a new one as this one is really good build quallity etc etc.
So...Would this be a an ok system? or...I know that Swiftechs stuff is also kick ass, but its dam hard to get hold of in Germany, at least their Apex "Ultra" kit.
I could also get a "Innovatek" setup (German made) and really good quallity stuff...but...
Or would someone (Nakitu for e.g.) gimme some hard advice here.
Like I said I don't really want to get a new case just yet.
Example of a "pre built" system using above components from Performance-PCS.com
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=262&products_id=3761
I know some WC vets will say that this is "beginners" stuff, but then again, I think the performance of this system ain't that bad...

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Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 22:13 Post subject: |
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Pre-built kits always trail behind the Aseteks and the danger dens in performance but are easy to install. On the other hand a diy kit would never fit in you case. Why do you need wc anyway? Planning to oc?
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Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 22:20 Post subject: |
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I am already, E6600 @ 3.2...but I am not happy with my temps ( 43-44 Idle, 52-54 Load with a Scythe Infinity)...never really was. My plan is to get the new Wolfsdale in Jan and clock it to at least 3.4 -3.6 or higher ( I know, tough call and all that)...anything above 40 C is not an option
Actually running at 40C now, but my room temp is...well, below comfortable 
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Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 22:34 Post subject: |
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i doubt u will feel any difference in between 10-15C and or 0.2-0.4 ghz, but then again if u got money to burn why not
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Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 22:49 Post subject: |
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Those temps are already below what you'd get with the stock Intel provided heatsink at stock speeds.
Don't deal with the hassles of water unless you are about squeezing every ounce of performance out of your rig, which you are not. -3 seconds from winrar isn't going to do you too well, might as well save the cash you will potentially spend on the water cooling deal and aim it at intel's new line of CPU's.
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Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 19:14 Post subject: |
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Hm...ok, but as I really want to deal with the "hassles of water"...oh well...
I guess I will order somet like the " INX-720BK" just to have somet to do over Xmas
We will see...I will at least take home a Dremel and a Jig Saw + some other tools one might need from work over the holidays...U never know...do ya 
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Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 20:24 Post subject: |
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CaptainCox
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Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 20:30 Post subject: |
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Exactly ... Being a somewhat "paranoid" person when it comes to temps (probably down to all the speed and coke i have consumed over the years!" I think I will not have peace until I do go WC 
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Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 13:39 Post subject: |
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Nakitu where did you purchase WC? Here in Cro or outside?
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson chiv wrote: | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Nakitu
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Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2007 00:31 Post subject: |
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Nakitu wrote: | AwE wrote: | CaptainCox wrote: | I am already, E6600 @ 3.2...but I am not happy with my temps ( 43-44 Idle, 52-54 Load with a Scythe Infinity)...never really was. My plan is to get the new Wolfsdale in Jan and clock it to at least 3.4 -3.6 or higher ( I know, tough call and all that)...anything above 40 C is not an option
Actually running at 40C now, but my room temp is...well, below comfortable  |
Why do you complain about the temps?!
As long as it runs stable, where is the problem?
I am pretty sure that you wont be very happy with wc after some time... believe me...
and the new intel cpus wont get as hot as the E/Q/2/4/6 xxx.
I bet my nuts, that 4000 Mhz are easy to get on air. |
Why wouldnt he be happy with WC?  |
because it`s not "build in and forget about it", because its expensive, because it isn`t less noisy than a good air cooling, because you have to buy new coolers everytime you update something, because you wont get a much higher oc capability.
did i mention its expensive already?
but maybe i am wrong and he wants wc just for the tinkering... 
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Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2007 12:00 Post subject: |
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I have not yet decided what system I will buy, but I will buy "something". I keep you posted when I get some temps etc to report
One neeeds something to fiddle with over Xmas...no? 
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Posted: Thu, 20th Dec 2007 01:39 Post subject: |
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That will keep you busy for some time. What's the pump rated at?
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Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007 18:39 Post subject: |
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I think the pump specs are
Pump Speed: 420 LPH
• Max Temp: 60° C
• Delivery head: 3.7m
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=409
Not the most powerful Laing pump, but enough for starters i recon
Anyhow, the kit was shipped out today, so if I am lucky I could get it in the morn...or latest Monday WOW...that's the 24th
Got all the tools just laying around in "ready" mode 
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Posted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 15:22 Post subject: |
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Got my stuff today. Guess the Deutsche(German) Post had to much to do over Xmas
Will start to install the stuff...maybe later, or at least in the morn. I might have to get a metal file, as I guess the jig saw will leave pretty rough edges, will see.
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Posted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 16:51 Post subject: |
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CaptainCox wrote: | I might have to get a metal file, as I guess the jig saw will leave pretty rough edges, |
Probably
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Posted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 17:08 Post subject: |
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Cheers for that link!, my case actually, well not 100% but same interior!
That case is a "Lian Li PC V1200B Plus II - black" my one is a "Lian Li PC V1100B Plus II - black" basically same case but mine has a front hatch and uses solid aluminium instead of the perforated stuff shown in that vid.
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Posted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 21:22 Post subject: |
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Got a couple of questions to any hardened WC veterans.
1. Do I connect the 3 fans in series (using 3 pin converters "came with the package") to the CPU fan socket on the main board?
2. Any good tips as to get the system absolutely air bubble free!
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Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2007 02:34 Post subject: |
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1. Three fans on one header might be more than it could handle. I would put one on the cpu for monitoring purposes and two on molex connectors.
2. Fill the reservoir with coolant and make sure that the pipe going to the intake of the pump always has coolant in it. Start the pump and let it run till the coolant level in the intake pipe gets low. Switch-off pump, refill res and repeat till all the air is out of the system through the res. You will have to short your power-supply to be able to run the pump without powering on the computer. You might get some air bubbles trapped in the block or in the bends which you can remove by tapping it or tilting the system. Avoid sharp bends in the tubing.
Look for videos on youtube by dangerden on how to fill/drain the system.
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Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2007 08:52 Post subject: |
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Cheers man!. Good tips there. Will get on with it today.
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Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2007 14:26 Post subject: |
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Cheers! will do, but have to do it in the morn I guess . Having guests for dinner here, and later theater (my Xmas press for the Mrs. At the mo I am back to stock speed on the E6600 2.4Ghz as the temps where just getting really weird, I actually have 2 fans on that Infinity at the mo, but dont really seem to help. To get decent temps my room have to be sort a 17-18C and that's not really comfortable in the long run. If I keep my room temp 22-24 or so I tend to be in the high 40s "C" and that's in Idle, OCed that is.
I will keep U posted on how it goes, probably will start 1st thing in the morn. Will probably take a good 4-5h though, as I should clean out the case completely before starting to butcher it. Will also take my time to figure some clean cable management etc.
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Posted: Sun, 30th Dec 2007 02:10 Post subject: |
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Ok finally managed to get all stuff done, PHEW!, what a day!. Took me a good 6-7 h due to disassemble the case, ALL COMPONETNTS!, Plan of attack, fuke up due to the dremel battery not wanting to recharge, cutting cursing, filing, drilling and vacuuming, every little pice of aluminum that was ALL OVER THE PLACE!.
But I am really happy I did it , check my temps in the end
Getting there, almost done connecting all the stuff.
Checking for air bubbles and leaks! about 6H, should probably run 24h, but seems solid .
Putting back all the components + some sort of cable management
Had to move the sound card up one slot as the rad takes a A LOT OF SPACE!
Almost there now, will give the pipes some slack in the end, no worries
DONE!, but I do need a bigger case for my next project no doubt!. TJ07 or...
And finally the temps, 3.5 Ghz at 34C...now that is what I call HOME FREE!
Don't regret doing this one BIT!
And I bet I can take it higher, no prob.
But next project will include N/S bridge + Gracard...no doubt, but that is another story
Cheers to Nakitu for encouraging me...in hes own surly way of course
Cheers to swingman for the hints as to how to do stuff!!!!

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