DEPRESSION
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psychokillergr
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 09:52    Post subject: DEPRESSION
does anyone of all of you that you are in this forum have depression or other mental illness?
do you know that depression will be the second sickness after cancer in 10 or 20 years?
do you know that your neighbor could have depression?



I have depression and sometimes i am proud that god gave me this,i have depression from my 20

ppl that dont think are huppy you know
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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 09:58    Post subject:
live with it, me and my brother are both bi-polar, inheriting it from my mother.

but the drugs are crap, they make you dependent, which makes it hard to kick the habit.


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dominae
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:12    Post subject:
Depression isn't a disease per-se,
more like a social disorder.


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:25    Post subject:
of course its not a disease, but when your mother is away for months at a time couped up in hospital for being a depressed alcoholic, when you are too young to understand whats going on, it does tend to affect you. all i can say is, thank god my father is such a strong person.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:30    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Depression isn't a disease per-se,
more like a social disorder.


It's a psychiatric disorder. You can't 'catch' it from someone but nevertheless it can't disappear all by itself without treatment. That's what makes it different from an ordinary bad mood.
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psychokillergr
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:32    Post subject:
KaiKo wrote:
live with it, me and my brother are both bi-polar, inheriting it from my mother.

but the drugs are crap, they make you dependent, which makes it hard to kick the habit.


i was smoking weed and only weed for five years , extremely quantities of weed plus some trees ,
i quit and i had one year to sleep i only was sleeping the day not the night ,now i have 5 years that quit the weed but i have depression, i had, before the weed but i had nt understand it cause the youth of mysef , i hate drugs they didnt help not a bit ,its a ridiculus
thing plus they made me to cross the edges that a human must have, but now thats a past ,
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psychokillergr
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:38    Post subject:
depression. bipolar depression its kind heavy ,then psychosis ,and the heavier of all
skizofreneia that is heavy situation of psychosis

from most of us the brain doesnt have the right quantity of seratonin and dopamin
so we can have a balance in our mood
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 10:59    Post subject:
weed is the only cure for me.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 11:51    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
dominae wrote:
Depression isn't a disease per-se,
more like a social disorder.


It's a psychiatric disorder. You can't 'catch' it from someone but nevertheless it can't disappear all by itself without treatment. That's what makes it different from an ordinary bad mood.


lol, the psychological effects are the symtom - the cause is social. Hence it's a social disorder. As with anything, eliminating the cause is what cures people.

Psychiatry is so retarded. Here's an analogy for you:

You come to a hospital with a broken bone, complaining about the extreme pain.
The doctor talks to you for awhile and prescribes you with some strong pills for making it hurt less and tells you to continue living as usual.

These pharmacy-companies make tons of money from sponsoring hospitals and "psychiatrists" to use their medication - and the end result is a whole world believing that it's all about psychiatry.i
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 11:55    Post subject: Re: DEPRESSION
psychokillergr wrote:
does anyone of all of you that you are in this forum have depression or other mental illness?

ppl that dont think are huppy you know


I used to be depressed for about 5-6 months in my teenage years.(LOOO-ong time ago)
To be honest, I can't even remember what caused it or how I got over it...
All I can really offer as a small bit of advice: don't think too much about everything, you'll just end up going in circles anyway without ever taking action, or trying to do something about it. Try to find some things you enjoy in life, whatever they may be.

I also used to smoke a lot of weed, about a g a day on average, but I just felt horrible on times I ran out. In the end I all but quit, I still smoke sometimes but it's been 2 months since my last bong by now. This whole year together I prob only smoked about 5-7 bongs or so, that's all. Alcohol has a far more positive effect on my mood, but that could ofc just be a personal preference.

If you can, try some magic mushrooms/truffles for once, they pwn! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 11:56    Post subject:
I really don't think depression is something that come and go :\
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psychokillergr
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 11:57    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
dominae wrote:
Depression isn't a disease per-se,
more like a social disorder.


It's a psychiatric disorder. You can't 'catch' it from someone but nevertheless it can't disappear all by itself without treatment. That's what makes it different from an ordinary bad mood.


lol, the psychological effects are the symtom - the cause is social. Hence it's a social disorder. As with anything, eliminating the cause is what cures people.

Psychiatry is so retarded. Here's an analogy for you:

You come to a hospital with a broken bone, complaining about the extreme pain.
The doctor talks to you for awhile and prescribes you with some strong pills for making it hurt less and tells you to continue living as usual.

These pharmacy-companies make tons of money from sponsoring hospitals and "psychiatrists" to use their medication - and the end result is a whole world believing that it's all about psychiatry.i


if it is so what can we do destroy the society or whatevr makes us unhuppy? then they will eliminate us ,but when you destroy something then again you have guilts about it so?
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psychokillergr
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 12:02    Post subject:
ppl drugs is not the solution dont you get it ??

drugs change your personality you cant take drugs all your life its impossible
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 12:10    Post subject:
Sorry for my opinion, you can make nothing of it. Smile

BUT: Depressed People = Weaklings
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 12:12    Post subject:
it's possible... believe me...


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 12:47    Post subject:
I'm either depressed or emo. I don't know.


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dominae
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 12:58    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Sorry for my opinion, you can make nothing of it. Smile

BUT: Depressed People = Weaklings


You're trying to tell us that you've never been depressed in your 8 year life?
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 13:00    Post subject:
psychokillergr wrote:
ppl drugs is not the solution dont you get it ??

drugs change your personality you cant take drugs all your life its impossible


Wll, I didn't mean you should think of drugs as being the answer..
Fact remains, drinking 2 or 3 beers after a good meal is a lot better than worrying yourself sick, and that amount isn't even necessarily bad for your health but it will do wonders for your mood. I know that much for a fact. The problem lies in your mindset.

So I say again: (prob useless but why not try anyway?)
All I can really offer as a small bit of advice: don't think too much about everything, you'll just end up going in circles anyway without ever taking action, or trying to do something about it. Try to find some things you enjoy in life, whatever they may be.

Oh, and don't watch the news too much, that shit would depress anyone! Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 13:11    Post subject:
Oi depression is fucked. it's not thinking about things that'll depress you. You're constantly depressed and you can't seem to get out of the mood and be happy. You're in a ditch basically and they prescribe you drugs as a way to give you a ladder. You take them and you start getting out of the ditch but you never do get out.

It's not like being overly sensitive and let shit depress you. There's a cure for that. Weed, alcohol, sex. The depression he's on about is a constant state of emoness. You're always feeling blue and shit. Down on your luck and nothing in the world affects that. You start thinking it's you and that there's nothing you can do to fix it. You go see a shrink who pretty much prescribes you placebos and when they don't work you get so fucked up and hysterical (cause nothign will work) and you attempt suicide. It's not a cry for help it's pretty much an attempt to escape. You don't go through with it the first time, so you try again and again until you're successful. or until the pills work. but for them to work you must want them to work and that's the first step of curing depression. getting in control of it.

it's fucked. Depression is the shit. I've known far too many people with depression and it pisses me off. it's hard to cheer them up. And you always wonder what they're worrying about. Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 13:49    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Sorry for my opinion, you can make nothing of it. Smile

BUT: Depressed People = Weaklings


You're trying to tell us that you've never been depressed in your 8 year life?


No? Awesome attempt at an insult. I'm not gonna get involved in this, depression is self fabricated - You are in control: People just throw the ball over the fence. They need to stop being pussies plain and simple, I've got no sympathy for someone who's "Depressed"

Boo hoo Crying or Very sad

And I'll apologize ahead of time to anyone I've offended, just an opinion so take it as only that before you turn on the nuclear reactor in attempt to formulate an insult.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 13:55    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
dominae wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Sorry for my opinion, you can make nothing of it. Smile

BUT: Depressed People = Weaklings


You're trying to tell us that you've never been depressed in your 8 year life?


No? Awesome attempt at an insult. I'm not gonna get involved in this, depression is self fabricated - You are in control: People just throw the ball over the fence. They need to stop being pussies plain and simple, I've got no sympathy for someone who's "Depressed"

Boo hoo Crying or Very sad

And I'll apologize ahead of time to anyone I've offended, just an opinion so take it as only that before you turn on the nuclear reactor in attempt to formulate an insult.


Do some homework first. There's real depression which one can't fight on his/her own and it requires therapy. And there's bad mood and 'pussying' that many do call depression. I guess you were talking about the second one but then specify.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 13:58    Post subject:
usually i try to avoid depressed ppl coz whenever u try to help them or cheer them, it comes bad at u

most of the time they blame everything on the world and ppl around them while doing nothing but bitching, bleehhh
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 14:04    Post subject:
You are talking about psychiatric disorders which I wouldn't even consider Depression as being one, even if it is under medical standards.

It's a product of modern culture/society I believe. As for the REAL mental issues people have that others somehow relate/associate with depression in whatever way shape or form - well that I understand.

But I guess I am aiming what I said at the 90% who fall under the catagory you outlined.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 14:28    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL no offense but you seem very young and ignorant. Maybe when you have experienced true depression you will form a plausible opinion. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 14:54    Post subject:
Kamel I think they think of bipolar disorder, which is real depression, when sb says oh I'm so depressed, it's just current state of mind, but when sb has bipolar disorder than things can get really bad


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 15:12    Post subject:
psychokillergr wrote:
KaiKo wrote:
live with it, me and my brother are both bi-polar, inheriting it from my mother.

but the drugs are crap, they make you dependent, which makes it hard to kick the habit.


i was smoking weed and only weed for five years , extremely quantities of weed plus some trees ,
i quit and i had one year to sleep i only was sleeping the day not the night ,now i have 5 years that quit the weed but i have depression, i had, before the weed but i had nt understand it cause the youth of mysef , i hate drugs they didnt help not a bit ,its a ridiculus
thing plus they made me to cross the edges that a human must have, but now thats a past ,


What do you mean by "things plus they made me to cross the edges that a human must have, but now thats a past" and why think too much? Do you have some kind of OCD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive-compulsive_disorder
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 18:09    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
You are talking about psychiatric disorders which I wouldn't even consider Depression as being one, even if it is under medical standards.

It's a product of modern culture/society I believe. As for the REAL mental issues people have that others somehow relate/associate with depression in whatever way shape or form - well that I understand.


Clinical depression is a serious psychiatric condition that needs to be treated like any other disease. It is a "REAL" mental issue, trust me i know what i'm talking about Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 18:11    Post subject:
No wonder why the treatment of mental illness is so poor, just look at the attitudes some people have towards people who suffer from them Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 19:23    Post subject:
How about trying a self treatment (Like having a big faith in god and in your self) and you can do everything + the anti deprasent medicin
forget all this PSYCHOLOGICAL shit, you've experienced. Enjoy yourself man, Life it's too short for this shit... Smile and dont ever smoke.. Dont care, dont care and dont care some more.. and be happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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