Wireless Router, internet connection - UPDATED!
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:04    Post subject: Wireless Router, internet connection - UPDATED!
This is giving me headache Sad

The router is a Xavi X5258-P2, got it from my ISP. Now i have a different ISP, but i still have the router. Bredbandsbolaget was the previous ISP, for you swedes.

Now, my own PC connected to it - works perfectly.

Now i also have a laptop wich i want to connect to it.

When ive made no changes to the router, the laptop connect to the network, but cant get a IP-adress.

So i log in on the router, and see that DHCP isnt enabled. So I enable it. Now the laptop gets an ip, so does my PC, but none of them can connect to the internet..

Disable DHCP - same problem as before. My PC works fine, the laptop doesnt.

Huge amounts of love to anyone who can help me solve this shit Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:07    Post subject:
And another thing - I now also have a pc hooked directly to the router by wire - and that doesnt get any connectivity either! Its just Limited or No Connectivity, just like the laptop..

Werid as fuck.. i used to have my PC connected to the router through wireless, exactly the same way i do now, and i also connected my 360 by wire, and that worked fine too!


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:17    Post subject:
Oh, and heres something i just saw - my PC has 87.249.175.232 as the IP adress, and 87.249.172.1 as default gateway. The laptop however, get a 192.168 IP and gateway..


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:21    Post subject:
Scratch that, i just fixed the laptop issue!

I ran cmd, then netsh winsock reset, restarted it, and now it works Smile Haven´t tried the wired PC yet, will do that tomorrow though.

Lovely thread this, aint it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:24    Post subject:
And now i also got a better signal strenght, getting around 1.3-1.4 mb/s on my PC now.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:29    Post subject:
aint there is better help than help yourself Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:30    Post subject:
lol, indeed Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:36    Post subject:
i had like several topics like yours, with one post tho
so whenever i resolve my problem i simply delete them Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 00:43    Post subject:
Well id thought id leave it, incase someone had the same problem in the future Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 10:36    Post subject:
At work I had a strange problem at a school I sat up 20 laptops. A laptop would never found the whireless network it should have as default. Other PCs/laptops would find it. The laptop that didnt find that network would find other networks, outside, at our config room at work. So, i resat the wireless access point at the school. Still didnt find it, but other laptops did. Uninstalled/installed, disabled/enabled. Same shit.

Had to boot up a new image on it (PXE boot)

All the other laptops had exact same image too, and it was a HP 6110. Got about 250 6110s at the schools. Some teachers got more pwnage models.

Strange shit :S
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 22:31    Post subject:
Apparantly, i stil havel problems..

Got home from work today, everything works fine. Until now. I get a IP-adress conflict between the laptop and my PC.. i cant figure out why Sad

Cause either internet works on the laptop, or on my PC.. i cant do release/renew on my PC, it just says i get Limited or no Connectivity.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:24    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
I get a IP-adress conflict between the laptop and my PC.. i cant figure out why Sad

Cause either internet works on the laptop, or on my PC.. i cant do release/renew on my PC, it just says i get Limited or no Connectivity.
Can't you just make your router distribute fixed local IP (192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, etc) for each of your PCs depending of their network adaptator's MAC address?
Over my outdated router it is called "Static DHCP assignment".
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:44    Post subject:
I havent seen that feature, maybe i just missed it.. but, in my testing, i have gotten a 192.x.x.x or 168.x.x.x IP, and then i cant access the internet..

This is all weird, cause i used to have my pc connected to it wireless, then my 360 connected to it by wire.. and that worked perfectly..


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:51    Post subject:
_SiN_ I will tell you right away, the way Glocalnet and Bredbandsbolaget uses these modems they are not supposed to function as routers. They are all in bridged mode because you get five WAN IP's with your connection. So up to five PC's connected at the same time works great if you have BBB or GN. However you do not get any internal network or so.

So the question is, does your new ISP give you more then one WAN IP? That could be the problem that each customer gets a maximum of one IP.

The modem (more correct then router in this case) can be set in PPPoE mode somehow too with some Telnet command (don't remember it though) but then the firewall in the modem will be activated and you can't open ports and stuff in it. NAT will also be disabled.

The Fact: If you're not on BBB, Glocalnet or Telenor (they all use the same system because they are the same company) and using more then one PC get a real router or a new router-modem thingie.

Edit:
The DHCP function in the modem is turned off by default because of the IP distribution from BBB/GN. I can also see why it worked great before with BBB because of the five WAN IP's. Your new ISP most likely has one WAN IP per customer.



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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:55    Post subject:
Thank you for a good answer!

No, im not on BBB/Telenor anymore, so yeah, thats probably the problem here. Reason i switched it out was because the router i had connected before (A Netgear WGT624-something) had a weaker signal strength.. Cause my pc is pretty far away, and i now have 24mbits and the signal strength with the Netgear stops at around 5-6..

By the way, is there any way to connect the routers? Maybe use one as a accesspoint?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 12:29    Post subject:
could sound like a NAT problem :\
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 17:41    Post subject:
Now, this is weird! Right now, my brother is surfing on the laptop, and im on my PC.. and it seems to be working fine??


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 23:10    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Now, this is weird! Right now, my brother is surfing on the laptop, and im on my PC.. and it seems to be working fine??


Call your ISP, ask how many IP's you get and work it from there.

You could also ask them if there are any MAC-adress conflicts when assigning the IP's.



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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 00:09    Post subject:
Well, I ended up switching back to the Netgear router, this shit gave me too much of a headache.. maybe ill buy a better antenna or some signal booster or something..

And btw, i get only one IP from my ISP.


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 00:20    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Well, I ended up switching back to the Netgear router, this shit gave me too much of a headache.. maybe ill buy a better antenna or some signal booster or something..

And btw, i get only one IP from my ISP.


Well there is your problem as the Xavi 5258 will never work good as a router, it is not designed to be one and there is no firmware that I know of that does it good either.

So using the Netgear or a router with the Xavi is the best way to go.



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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 09:57    Post subject:
Well, i ditched the Xavi completely, i already had a standard ADSL-modem for the Netgear wich works fine. No need for two wireless units, right?

Or, could i use the Xavi and the Netgear, then I connect MY pc to the Xavi, then let the others connect to the Netgear? Since the Xavi gives me a better signal strength..?


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 23:21    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Well, i ditched the Xavi completely, i already had a standard ADSL-modem for the Netgear wich works fine. No need for two wireless units, right?

Or, could i use the Xavi and the Netgear, then I connect MY pc to the Xavi, then let the others connect to the Netgear? Since the Xavi gives me a better signal strength..?


If you connect your Netgear to the Xavi the Netgear will get the IP. So no, no connection Netgear and a computer to the Xavi...

Actually I am surprised you get better signal strength from the Xavi, they usually suck big time with wireless.



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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 00:57    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
Well, i ditched the Xavi completely, i already had a standard ADSL-modem for the Netgear wich works fine. No need for two wireless units, right?

Or, could i use the Xavi and the Netgear, then I connect MY pc to the Xavi, then let the others connect to the Netgear? Since the Xavi gives me a better signal strength..?


If you connect your Netgear to the Xavi the Netgear will get the IP. So no, no connection Netgear and a computer to the Xavi...

Actually I am surprised you get better signal strength from the Xavi, they usually suck big time with wireless.


I´m as surprised as you are, really..

Tomorrow ill try whipping up a DIY antenna/dish with aluminium foil, ive read it can in some cases help Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 02:15    Post subject:
If you really want to get a good signal get one of these... Wink

http://www.tradlost.se/shop/product.php?productid=16285&cat=3&page=1

Another thing that you could try with your Netgear is to switch channel, the Xavi uses Channel 11 by default and perhaps most of your neighbors use channel 6 (D-Link default) or similar. So try channel 11 in the Netgear too, might work Smile



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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 11:33    Post subject:
Woah, that isnt exactly cheap Razz

And believe me, this has nothing to do with my neighbours Wi-Fi Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 13:52    Post subject:
hehe, i made a dish out of cardboard and tinfoil, so now i get atleast a little better reception Very Happy


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