Battlefield 2 versus Battlefield 2142
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 16:07    Post subject: Battlefield 2 versus Battlefield 2142
I'm thinking about buying Battlefield 2142, but I need your opinion. Which one, in your opinion, is more fun, and why?

I like realism, but I like SciFi if it's presented realistic enough (so I'll have no qualms playing 2142). However, which one feels more fluid and 'better'? Do the vehicles have more balance in 2142?

Sorry for the newbie-ish question, thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 16:08    Post subject:
They are almost the same exact game so it really depends on what skin you would like.. the today skin, or the tomorrow skin? Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 16:24    Post subject: Re: Battlefield 2 versus Battlefield 2142
Praetori wrote:
I'm thinking about buying Battlefield 2142, but I need your opinion. Which one, in your opinion, is more fun, and why?

I like realism, but I like SciFi if it's presented realistic enough (so I'll have no qualms playing 2142). However, which one feels more fluid and 'better'? Do the vehicles have more balance in 2142?

Sorry for the newbie-ish question, thanks in advance.

I play both, but I have little more fun with BF2 than 2142. If I were you I'd get both, since they are ridiculously cheap now anyway.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 16:28    Post subject:
I actually already have Battlefield 2, and think it's a great game. I just don't really like the way how unbalanced most vehicles are. Also, it's full of infantry-only servers which in my opinion takes away from the Battlefield magic.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 16:39    Post subject:
Did any one tryed the new patch for 2142 with the new map ? If so, how is it ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 17:37    Post subject:
I like 2142 far better as the unlocks are better as well as the overall class balancing. It just provides far more options for your character.

The new addon is pretty decent too, well, for £5 anyway. The new map on the addon is cool, as are the new vehicles.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 20:11    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 20:18    Post subject:
I liked 2142 more. Embarassed Maybe it was the 8800 that influenced my judgment.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 21:45    Post subject:
I've liked BF2142 for over 400 hours and still have fun in it, go for it Smile Balance is fine with vehicles, I use all for different purposes and everyone has it's weaknesess. Hover tanks and walkers of course are my favorites, gunship is nice too. Play most with engineer, so those are also the most fun to kill (or try).

Every infantry class is also very well balanced now with new stuff and patch adjustments. Supports new gun is a bit sucky (or hard to aim) and suppoert is the weakest in open spaces, but stationary with right gun and close spaces with right gun and user it's one of the strongest, so it evens out nicely.

bogo24dk wrote:
Did any one tryed the new patch for 2142 with the new map ? If so, how is it ?


Northern strike has 3 maps and 2 of them is playable in titan mode and they have a totally new feel. Goliath and Hachimotos bring new dimensions as well. The one map that is not is night version sniper heaven. Best feature about northen strike is that every badge/pin/ribbon is an unlock, so you get those new stuff quite fast and also missing stuff from old unlocks. Only downside is that the server amount of the booster back went down after the initial boost, but the new cadgets, maps and vehicles are worth the price. Oh and booster back maps are way harder as there are usually more of the best playing.

EDIT: seems like you were talking about the 1.40 beta patch that I wasn't aware when I replied, but I'll keep the booster pack info there as well Smile *goes to read about the beta patch* Smile

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The Battlefield 2142 1.4 beta update includes the following changes:

- Fixed an exploit that would allow commanders to call Orbital and EMP strikes before it had fully recharged.
- The Clark RDX Shotgun can now detonate other nearby explosives.
- EU Assault Rifle recoil and deviation have been slightly reduced.
- Bianchi and Shuko LMGs recoil reduced.
- Clark Shotgun rate of fire increased.
- Added an autosave to kit customisations. After you customise a kit and spawn in with that kit, the customisation will be automatically saved until you change it and spawn in again. Note that you must spawn in with a particular kit for it to be saved.
- Added a new map, Highway Tampa.

Featuring Titan and Dual Assault Lines this map focuses on classic Battlefield vehicle warfare with a futuristic twist. In Dual Assault lines each team can capture the enemies’ home base by controlling all of the neutral points. Whether you choose to skillfully coordinate your mechanized assault or dominate through overwhelming force Highway Tampa is the newest home of all out warfare.

Niceness! Autosave for customations will rule. Others seem good as well, tempting to go beta, I've only used retail patches so far. Of and that Clark RDX shotgun was the new support gun that I mentioned, nice to see it getting more usefull, haven't even unlocked it yet (3 unlocks missing).


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 21:52    Post subject:
OnBoard wrote:
I've liked BF2142 for over 400 hours and still have fun in it, go for it Smile Balance is fine with vehicles, I use all for different purposes and everyone has it's weaknesess. Hover tanks and walkers of course are my favorites, gunship is nice too. Play most with engineer, so those are also the most fun to kill (or try).

Every infantry class is also very well balanced now with new stuff and patch adjustments. Supports new gun is a bit sucky (or hard to aim) and suppoert is the weakest in open spaces, but stationary with right gun and close spaces with right gun and user it's one of the strongest, so it evens out nicely.

bogo24dk wrote:
Did any one tryed the new patch for 2142 with the new map ? If so, how is it ?


Northern strike has 3 maps and 2 of them is playable in titan mode and they have a totally new feel. Goliath and Hachimotos bring new dimensions as well. The one map that is not is night version sniper heaven. Best feature about northen strike is that every badge/pin/ribbon is an unlock, so you get those new stuff quite fast and also missing stuff from old unlocks. Only downside is that the server amount of the booster back went down after the initial boost, but the new cadgets, maps and vehicles are worth the price. Oh and booster back maps are way harder as there are usually more of the best playing.


I wasn't talking about the NS maps. Very Happy I was talking about the new 1.40 beta patch wich has a new map.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 22:01    Post subject:
bogo24dk wrote:
I wasn't talking about the NS maps. Very Happy I was talking about the new 1.40 beta patch wich has a new map.


Yep, edited it there, when I noticed Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 22:48    Post subject:
Actually reinstalling 2142 for the weekend, been a while. After testing the Enemy Territory Beta, I feel like some "REAL" future online hand to hand Wink


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 23:18    Post subject:
yeah I've also wanted to know this, I've played BF2 before and am thinking of buying either that or BF2142.

according to xfire, BF2 has more people playing. so is it hard at all to find a good server in BF2142?
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jun 2007 23:31    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
yeah I've also wanted to know this, I've played BF2 before and am thinking of buying either that or BF2142.

according to xfire, BF2 has more people playing. so is it hard at all to find a good server in BF2142?

Both games have tons of servers with tons of people on them at all times http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:07    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
yeah I've also wanted to know this, I've played BF2 before and am thinking of buying either that or BF2142.

according to xfire, BF2 has more people playing. so is it hard at all to find a good server in BF2142?


Night time is slower (like 5-12am), but eny other time there are under 100ping great servers all the time and full, atleast in europe.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:09    Post subject:
bogo24dk wrote:
Did any one tryed the new patch for 2142 with the new map ? If so, how is it ?


OK, installed the beta patch and tested the new map in titan mode. It's huge and on foot it's not possible to move, unless you like to drink a cup of coffee at the same time or even make one xD It's really different from the rest and there are plenty of vehicles for everyone, even 2 gunships per team. Couple screenies (1280x1024, 8x HQ AF, 4xAA everything maxed, like usually)



Sorry for uninteresting shot (except for map), but was busy playing Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:15    Post subject:
i have both of these, 2142 is great but i have more fun with BF2 and its mods right now.

that new map is the same as the BF2 version, right? Highway Tampa sucks IMO. its all flat with no cover. its a tank map, if you spawn and there is no tank, hope there is a car, and if there is no car: you are screwed. it will take forever to get anywhere on foot, and if you do walk you will likely get sniped since there is no cover.

i think 2142 is technically better than BF2... it loads faster, less lag, the new unlock system is great, the awards are actually worth getting since they have a point value, the rank system seems to works better than in BF2 (which i might add has not updated stats in at least 2 weeks right now). i see less bunny hopping and dolphin diving like antics in 2142. chopper whoring is not so frustrating, but then again its not as cool either!

in the end, i think BF2 has the better theme and the mods coming out are fabulous, like POE2 and Project Reality. 2142 got old for me, but its worth a look.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:15    Post subject:
OnBoard wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:
Did any one tryed the new patch for 2142 with the new map ? If so, how is it ?


OK, installed the beta patch and tested the new map in titan mode. It's huge and on foot it's not possible to move,unless you like to dring a cup of coffee at the same time or even make one xD Couple screenies

http://img181.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85192_Untitled82_122_500lo.jpg
http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85194_Untitled83_122_536lo.jpg


Damn this is just the new BF 2 map converted to 2142. Ohh well better then nothing.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:23    Post subject:
bogo24dk wrote:
Damn this is just the new BF 2 map converted to 2142. Ohh well better then nothing.


Good that I don't play BF2 then, it's new for me Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 01:28    Post subject:
OnBoard wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:
Damn this is just the new BF 2 map converted to 2142. Ohh well better then nothing.


Good that I don't play BF2 then, it's new for me Smile


You got bored of bf2 ?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 02:06    Post subject:
bogo24dk wrote:
OnBoard wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:
Damn this is just the new BF 2 map converted to 2142. Ohh well better then nothing.


Good that I don't play BF2 then, it's new for me Smile


You got bored of bf2 ?


Didn't like it that much, never bought, only played some tens of hours. Got hooked with the unlock system and new weapons with BF2142. It did also help that few friends played the same time and I got it so cheap =) BF1942 I played only the demo, so I was quite a n00b when I started this, but it's fun to kill those BF2 veterans Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 14:29    Post subject:
Personally ive always liked BF2, I've got both but when I was BF'ing I found myself playing 2 alot more simply because 2142 felt clunky.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jun 2007 14:43    Post subject:
I wish they'd do a proper sequel to Battlefield 1942 instead. (Yes, I know about mods..but I'd like a game from the producers instead)


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 06:59    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
I wish they'd do a proper sequel to Battlefield 1942 instead. (Yes, I know about mods..but I'd like a game from the producers instead)


you apparently have not tried these mods...

1.6 gigs, new game modes, tons of new maps that play and look as good if not better than the originals, kits all redone... they are NIIICE!!!

i lol at EA, for the booster Northern Strike was touting a new game mode.... ASSAULT LINES!!! what did it turn out to be? the "defending" teams main was locked and non cap until all the other flags were taken *lose boner here*.

http://guide.realitymod.com/index.php?title=Game_modes

read about Project Reality game modes there, which include Advance & Secure, Insurgency, and Extraction.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 08:43    Post subject:
BF2 is better Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 09:43    Post subject:
Well if it's BF2 vs BF2142 I'd say go for BF2.

Why? Because I played BF2 for about 2 years and even though I hated the bugs and instability in it I couldn't stop playing it. It got me hooked and wouldn't let me go. When BF2142 was released I really tried to play it. I couldn't stand the future concept in it though. It was to much damn lasers and god knows what.

So it was back to BF2 for me. A big thing about BF2 in my eyes is that it's modern warfare. To few games are that. Modern tanks, weapons, planes, choppers you name it and it's modern. Not in a "near" future or that shit. It's today or 2-3 years back at most. I love it... Very Happy

However I have stopped playing BF2 since the release of the QW beta. Why? Because the QW beta has less bugs then BF2 has after 2 years of patching. QW feels more balanced in terms of clan-gaming. Only thing I don't like is that it's future.

Personally I don't think I will ever pay for a Battlefield series game again. Even though DiCE are swedes, I'm a swede and I loved BF2 for so long. They are money whores now. They can't release _good_ patches without creating new bugs. Their engines always has package loss unless you play local on LAN, they release expansions instead of releasing patches or offering anything for free.

Ehh, I got a little lost herer, was this thread about Bf2 vs Bf2142? Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 10:02    Post subject:
Banelord wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
I wish they'd do a proper sequel to Battlefield 1942 instead. (Yes, I know about mods..but I'd like a game from the producers instead)


you apparently have not tried these mods...


I have, but I want a proper game. A BF all made for 1942.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 10:07    Post subject:
Supporting a game that make tanks explode when they are in contact of water is not a good thing to do :\
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 10:52    Post subject:
Both sucks.

But comparing just the two, BF2 is superior. BF2142 is just another EA-milkin-the-cow-product that looks like and plays like shit.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2007 21:50    Post subject:
quick question: is it really necessary to get the deluxe version with the Battlefield 2: Special Forces Expansion Pack and the two Booster Packs?

or just the original is fine ... BF2 = $25, BF2 deluxe = $50 Neutral


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