What Motivates Usenet Uploaders?
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repo1
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:14    Post subject: What Motivates Usenet Uploaders?
Usenet uploaders don't get any credits or ratio, the only thing they get is risk of prosecution. So why do they bother uploading. I never understood why the usenet warez still exists, because there is no kind of rewards for it. Next you will tell me AOL mass-mails still exist Laughing

And why hasn't the MPAA shut it down yet? It would be very easy to fuck up usenet.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:17    Post subject:
I smell smoke...hmmm
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:20    Post subject:
FED!!


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:21    Post subject:
but on a serious note, usenet is used for a large variety of reasons - just one of these being warez. usenet can't and won't get attacked legally until BitTorrent has eaten the dirt - which once again won't happen.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:55    Post subject: Re: What Motivates Usenet Uploaders?
repo1 wrote:
Usenet uploaders don't get any credits or ratio, the only thing they get is risk of prosecution. So why do they bother uploading. I never understood why the usenet warez still exists, because there is no kind of rewards for it. Next you will tell me AOL mass-mails still exist Laughing

And why hasn't the MPAA shut it down yet? It would be very easy to fuck up usenet.


Some people just like doing it imo. Kinda like you give that bum a nickel or whatever. Their providing for people and I'm sure they feel pretty high and mighty about it (rather they actually get a big ego or not I dunno) I'd personally do it just to laugh in the governments face.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 18:59    Post subject:
^^ looks who's back from their timeout Razz Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 19:06    Post subject:
also they feel 1337, as their name usually appears somewhere by the listing!


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 20:22    Post subject:
alot of the usenet uploaders apear to be promoting irc channels in there name of there posts.
why they would want to do that i have no idea, i guess it makes them feel importaint in there sad pathetic lives.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 20:52    Post subject:
yeah well, without these 'sad pathetic' people, there would be nothing to download Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 23:29    Post subject:
I suspect these ‘sad pathetic’ people have hobbies that they really enjoy and they love it. They love to watch how their stuff grows, and don’t care about ratio or credits or maybe they do? Who cares. I don’t, but I am glad it is out there.

Not everyone lives in the states either. There is a border. Thank god.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 00:27    Post subject:
Like I said in another thread on this topic..

Newsgroups are in the public domain, they always have been! They have been around since before websites and they wont be stopped by an American company who want to stop the piracy of the world, it just isn't going to happen.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 01:00    Post subject:
For me it goes back to the old days. lol . You cant get somethin for nothin. You have to give to get.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 01:04    Post subject:
Jesus Christ snop you really are starting to grate on people lately. Including myself.


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 01:40    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Jesus Christ snop you really are starting to grate on people lately. Including myself.

lately? ive only posted here a few times in the last month.

give me some examples of people i have grated on recently then apart from in this thread
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 01:45    Post subject:
What Motivates Usenet Uploaders?

drugs, money, fame. the usual

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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 08:16    Post subject:
I'm just glad its there at all Smile I download loads of documentaries and comedy progs and a lot of it is fairly obscure stuff - and other than torrents (which i wont touch with a bargepole) the usenet is the best for grabbing stuff like that. If i find something ive been after for a while i'll often thanks the person uploading it. what thier motives are I cannot say, adoration? boredom, egotistical? or maybe they just like to help people and have a great connection Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 08:20    Post subject:
snop1050 wrote:
Jenni wrote:
Jesus Christ snop you really are starting to grate on people lately. Including myself.

lately? ive only posted here a few times in the last month.

give me some examples of people i have grated on recently then apart from in this thread


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 09:29    Post subject:
I remember like 5-6 years ago I was on this Edonkey forum called sharereactor, there was this guy who had access to scene release and he was posting them on p2p and sometimes rencoding them to one CD, let me tell you he was a hero on the forums, I don’t remember what I did last week-end but 6 years later I still remember the nick of the guy… Gflavored… he was not getting any ratio or anything else, I guess it always tempting to be the best of the worst than the worst of best...
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 10:29    Post subject: Re: What Motivates Usenet Uploaders?
repo1 wrote:
Usenet uploaders don't get any credits or ratio, the only thing they get is risk of prosecution. So why do they bother uploading. I never understood why the usenet warez still exists, because there is no kind of rewards for it. Next you will tell me AOL mass-mails still exist

They get respect for uploading, and like many people have said in this thread, it's for fame and glory. In many respects those credentials are like the scene groups who are in a race to release a game first. There is practically no risk of prosecution for uploading to usenet.

And for the users above who said these people are tragic, and have no lives; Usenet is composed of many, many more power users with fatass connections than any p2p network will ever have. Most of the people who do uploads of scene releases have high-end connections. Either something they have at home, or their workplace most likely. They are not some tragic fucks who sit in a gloomy basement 24/7.

There are also many users with various degrees of connections who upload stuff at the request of others, or re-post older releases. Other than the same motives above, I think what motivates these guys is the same as hospital or charity workers, wanting to help/serve others.

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And why hasn't the MPAA shut it down yet? It would be very easy to fuck up usenet.

Well first of all MPAA is in bed with some usenet providers. Secondly, it isn't as easy as it sounds, as all usenet servers (and there are thousands upon thousands of them, Giganews is only the largest) are decentralized in design. Usenet is even older than WWW, so no, it's not going to be shut down at all. As someone suggested in this thread, it will never happen, as MPAA/RIAA are focused on dishing out lawsuits to p2p networks, torrent users, which they won't get past anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st May 2007 10:45    Post subject:
Bah anyway I look at it like the drug business there will always be a demand, If they shutdown usenet (and that will never happen) people will just find another way to download warez, they are targeting the source like release groups and big distributor such as topsites, If you think about it there's usualy between 50-100 person on a topsite and this will results in hunderd of thousand of copies of a game/movie/cd so why would they care about usenet, the only reason they bust from time to time a p2p/ng user is just so media will talk about it to hopefully sacre a few ppl so that will stop downloading other then that it has no purpose.
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