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Mutantius
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well personally id always look at getting a motherboard with an sli or crossfire option. you dont NEED to use it, but id always keep the future in mind for a pc i was putting together.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Feb 2007 11:10 Post subject: |
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Nah, SLI is useless... Better to save the money and invest them in a good VGA.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Feb 2007 11:35 Post subject: |
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Get this instead http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices.asp?ID=262997
It's essentially the top of the line Asus board and as you'll be going nvidia it's worth it to pay a little extra if it means you'll get this board, I believe it's only 550DKR difference 
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Feb 2007 12:28 Post subject: |
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I have checked it out, though will I notice a direct performance increase or just get a more "compatible" system with this board?
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Feb 2007 12:46 Post subject: |
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Going from the ICH8 to the 680i chipsets, I'd say you'd notice a performance increase with the 680i if you had them running side by side. Although it's one of those awkward times to buy new hardware for a PC, since theres huge price drops for the core2 duo chips in a month or two, and also the new nvidia cards starting from Feb 12th 07. If you really wanted too get the PC now, I'd probably switch out the 6600 and get either a e6300 / e4300 and just put a small-ish overclock on it and have 6600 performance for quite a price drop (half the price nearly).
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Feb 2007 13:56 Post subject: |
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Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently using that asus board and a E6600 overclocked to 3.2GHZ, using the scythe "minecooler" 40-45 degrees C under load 
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Feb 2007 09:29 Post subject: |
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i dont understand what all the hate is surrounding dual card systems? i mean if you want the best gaming experience, how can you say it would suck and be a waste of time and money? ill definately be putting them into the machine im building in march.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Feb 2007 15:10 Post subject: |
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I just went through the same thing myself.
In the end I settled with,
E6600
Asus P5W64 Professional (not that I need 4x16 PCI-e slots, but its one of the best boards out there), decided to go Intel 975x because its bios ain't as buggy and its more stable. Plus I'm not going to do a lot of overclocking anyway.)
Still have my 7800GT until I can see what ATi will offer.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Mar 2007 09:12 Post subject: |
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OCZ has excellent tech support. RMA'd my current memory took them a day to send off my new pair after they recieved my bad ones.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007 01:54 Post subject: |
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Looking at those motherboards. I looked at both of them and tbh the Gigabyte one was winning it.
However, it turns out it has real issues with memory sticks and can be a right arse to get them working.
The asus board is fine but it by default sets the memory timings incorrect. If you can be arsed to set them yourself (its a 2 second job) then the asus board is a better all round board.
Its got the nforce chipset as well which is coming out ontop atm with performance.
Oh, its other main weekness is the fact that running in SLI mode, its only 8x rather than 16x PCI. The only board I could fine doing dual 16x was that top of the range asus one.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007 06:37 Post subject: |
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| grimmmy wrote: | Looking at those motherboards. I looked at both of them and tbh the Gigabyte one was winning it.
However, it turns out it has real issues with memory sticks and can be a right arse to get them working.
The asus board is fine but it by default sets the memory timings incorrect. If you can be arsed to set them yourself (its a 2 second job) then the asus board is a better all round board.
Its got the nforce chipset as well which is coming out ontop atm with performance.
Oh, its other main weekness is the fact that running in SLI mode, its only 8x rather than 16x PCI. The only board I could fine doing dual 16x was that top of the range asus one. |
Well I have choosen an eVGA 680i Motherboard and added a 8800 GTS to my upcoming rig and hopefully the e6600 will have a price degradation this april.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007 06:46 Post subject: |
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poor amd is getting raped by intel  Good thing is they finally broke into 3ghz
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007 06:58 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | poor amd is getting raped by intel Good thing is they finally broke into 3ghz |
Their architecture needs to be changed asap... Still they will beat intel when that is done. And then Intel will make another comeback and vice versa. |
won't happen with AM2, read somewhere they annouced they werent going to change the arch. of their CPU's for this socket other than it having the ddr2 controller in em. |
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007 17:48 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | Ok seems this is it.
When we hit 1st April then im going to get this:
Intel Core 2 Duo 4300 (Which I certainly will overclock)
OCZ Platinum PC-8500 (Already bought)
Asus EN8800GTX (Cheapest 8800GTX currently)
and of Course
eVGA 680i SLI.
All this will be mixed with existing hardware such as 2*ATA-133 HDDs and a Chill Innovation PSU 510A which runs at 500 Watt.
Any thought would be appreciated Especially any reasons not to get a 8800 GTX? Im aiming at a solid performace in v3 of the Unreal technology (Bioshock, UT3, Vegas etc) |
ya..don't get the GTX if your gunna use vista  OS is a bugfest with driver support |
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007 18:21 Post subject: |
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Mutantis, I'd recommend staying away from the E4300... Go with E6300.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007 18:25 Post subject: |
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Why if I may ask? The overclocking potential of the 4300 is simply stunning though is that the case with the E6300 aswell?
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007 19:25 Post subject: |
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the FSB on the 6300 is higher 800MHz vs. 1066MHz and also uses less voltage. Other than that I see no difference than the .06 mhz haha.
Heres some benches of OC'ing for you. Doesn't seem theres noticable difference. Other than E6300 being more up to date
http://www.techspot.com/review/40-core2-e4300-vs-e6300-overclocking/page3.html
performance on games...
http://www.techspot.com/review/40-core2-e4300-vs-e6300-overclocking/page5.html
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Final thoughts
Reaching 3.20GHz using either the E4300 or E6300 was quite easy and I believe most of these Core 2 Duo processors will at least reach this frequency. That said, we were able to push our E6300 to 3.50GHz and the E4300 to 3.47GHz. While both processors achieved similar frequencies they used very different settings to achieve them, nevertheless real-world performance was much the same.
The advantages of the E4300 other than being slightly cheaper, is that the FSB (front side bus) does not need to be nearly as high to achieve the overclock. The advantage of this is that the DDR2 memory frequency can be lowered below 800MHz whereas the E6300 is forced to run DDR2-1000 memory.
So those wanting to overclock the E4300 processor to the max will not require more expensive DDR2 overclocking memory. Essentially the E4300 can be altered to operate at exactly the same specifications as the E6300 with the only difference being the lack of VT technology. If you were to increase the FSB from 200MHz to 266MHz and reduce the clock multiplier from 9x to just 7x, the E4300 would in fact become an E6300.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007 20:22 Post subject: |
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Furthermore, the E6300 (and up) has Intel VT, which is great if you work with VMWare and alike. And because of the lower voltage, oveclocking potential is much higher on the E6300
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Mar 2007 09:40 Post subject: |
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E4300 has 9X multi that makes it easier for a non-extreme chip to OC'. E6300 would need after market FSB cooler to reach the same OC' speeds E4300 can do and you don't need high frequency RAM for E4300 because of the lower FSB frequency.
However, E4300 prices will drop as intel introduce E6320 and E6420 shortly...
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