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 Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 11:56 Post subject: Why can some ppl say what they want and others not? |
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Since i assume i got banned for saying this in one of the Israelie threads: "Did they just recognise they are fucked up in the brain?" got me banned, only beacuse it was about the jews. But when X_Dror said the same thing about us Swedes he didn't get banned?
Whys that? Is it only beacuse he is a jew and u feel sry for him or what?!
Why the hell can he call ppl shit without getting banned, and we others can not?!
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 12:06 Post subject: |
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Swedish girls are overrated...
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 12:07 Post subject: |
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no their not.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 12:34 Post subject: |
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When they whine (which they do all the time), everything is fine. But when other people whine at the jews, they are automatically stamped as anti-semitic. That's just how the world is, sad.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 14:08 Post subject: |
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Life is a bitch, and then you marrie one.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 14:41 Post subject: Re: Why can some ppl say what they want and others not? |
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| GLHF wrote: | Since i assume i got banned for saying this in one of the Israelie threads: "Did they just recognise they are fucked up in the brain?" got me banned, only beacuse it was about the jews. But when X_Dror said the same thing about us Swedes he didn't get banned?
Whys that? Is it only beacuse he is a jew and u feel sry for him or what?!
Why the hell can he call ppl shit without getting banned, and we others can not?! |
Your post overall was filled with nazi-like arguments and that attitude is simply unacceptable.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:05 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: |
Ontopic -
A. Not all swedes are fucked up in the brain. It's just that a lot of swedes are actually quite fucked up in the brain and you are one of them.
B. Calling Swedes in names will not make me racist, but calling Jews in names will make you racist. |
First of all, there are not alot of swedes that are fucked up. You can find just as many in every country. Secondly, imo I dont see any difference in calling swedes names than I do in calling Jews names. Why should jews be treated differently? Its the same for everyone imo with no exceptions.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:08 Post subject: |
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Jews are considered a race/religion, swedes are not.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:10 Post subject: |
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Hmmz this is as stupid as the acceptance that only an Afro-American can say "Nigger" and other Americans can't.
Consider Swedish people are descendants from North-European tribes and Jewish people are descendants from the tribes of the Israelites they are the same kind of entity.
I'm aware of the sensitivity of calling names on Jewish people but if one get banned for such remark and the others have freedom of hate speech we can only conclude that it is discriminatory.
It occurred to me before that some Israeli subscribers here can say stuff like racist and Nazi for example to others who don't agree with their views and get away with it. Maybe time for some introspection?
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:10 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | | Jews are considered a race/religion, swedes are not. |
Thats not the point - we're a nationality and should be treated with the same respect as any other nationality/race or religion. We are no less human than jewish people.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:14 Post subject: |
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TSR69
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:16 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | | Jews are considered a race/religion, swedes are not. |
Q: What's your religion?
A: Jews.
Your argumentation is flawed. The "standard" religion of Jewish people is called Judaism and there are many other variants/cults out there. Jewish people are the offspring of certain tribes in the past and as a race it is watered down perhaps even more than the Swedish.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:21 Post subject: |
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But the problem is that a lot of people that doesn't believe in Judaism are called Jews just because their mother is Jewish and etc.
For example, the Nazis related to Jews by race and not by religion. A lot of Jews that converted to Christianity were still murdered because their race was "Jewish".
Jews are not an offspring of a certain tribe anymore. If you would ever come to Israel you will see a huge variety of Jews that can't possibly be descendants of a certain tribe. There are Russian,Ethiopian,European,Asian,and "Arab" Jews.(They are not Arab but they have probably got mixed up with some of the Arab population in the places they lived.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:31 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | But the problem is that a lot of people that doesn't believe in Judaism are called Jews just because their mother is Jewish and etc.
For example, the Nazis related to Jews by race and not by religion. A lot of Jews that converted to Christianity were still murdered because their race was "Jewish".
Jews are not an offspring of a certain tribe anymore. If you would ever come to Israel you will see a huge variety of Jews that can't possibly be descendants of a certain tribe. There are Russian,Ethiopian,European,Asian,and "Arab" Jews.(They are not Arab but they have probably got mixed up with some of the Arab population in the places they lived. |
The offspring of a Swedish man who marries a woman form African descent are also called Swedish. Your arguments here power my earlier post.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:40 Post subject: |
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Oh btw:I remember what I wrote there - I said "WTF is with these swedes?! cold+darkness probably fucks up the brain".
I can't see anything wrong with that. It just implies that the swedes got fucked up because of the cold and the darkness and that they are not born fucked up.
Anyways, I can't see where's the point in this kind of argument. You are not even sure you were banned because you said bad things about Jews. So unless that's true I can't see any point in this kind of argument.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:55 Post subject: |
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I've always been quite keen on the scandinavian countries, they mostly understand each others languages. And even tho they all have a small population, they do pretty good in sports and in economics.
It would been fun to see an united nation containing Sweden, Norway & Denmark.
I believe it was attemped sometime. Undet the name "Scandinavism"
"Scandinavism is a political movement with origins in the mid-19th century that support the idea of Scandinavia as a unified region or even a single nation, based on the common linguistic, political and cultural heritage of the Scandinavian countries Denmark, Norway, Sweden"
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:56 Post subject: |
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Ha, Jenny said once "jews are fucking wankers" and she wasnt banned. That answers your question, GLHF.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 15:58 Post subject: |
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A common unwritten rule on forums or elsewhere is that moderators/administrators can do pretty much whatever they want without punishment. 
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 16:06 Post subject: |
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| fissesvin wrote: | It would been fun to see an united nation containing Sweden, Norway & Denmark.
I believe it was attemped sometime. Undet the name "Scandinavism" |
Indeed!
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 16:13 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | Oh btw:I remember what I wrote there - I said "WTF is with these swedes?! cold+darkness probably fucks up the brain".
I can't see anything wrong with that. It just implies that the swedes got fucked up because of the cold and the darkness and that they are not born fucked up.
Anyways, I can't see where's the point in this kind of argument. You are not even sure you were banned because you said bad things about Jews. So unless that's true I can't see any point in this kind of argument.
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Well it might not be you but i've read remarks like "Swedish are fucked up in the brain" here.
What i was trying to tell you that both the words Jewish and Swedish are used to point towards a group of people. Both groups have developed a diversity nowadays compared to the ethnical roots. Calling names on one group is as discriminatory as on the other. Calling names on Jewish people might ofc be less politically correct though, that's why i used the comparison with saying the N-word. But i think that both are offensive.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2006 16:20 Post subject: |
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One thing is true. I never generalize. I'm sure there are great Swedish people and I happen to know some, but I'm noticing quite an unpleasant phenomena of quite a lot Anti-semitic swedes lately. I don't give a fuck about them, but it is changing my opinion about Sweden quite dramatically. Not so long ago I've seen Sweden as a very nice place to visit, but since I've seen the amount of people that think quite negatively about the likes of me my opinion have changed.
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