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kosmiq
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 Posted: Tue, 18th Jul 2006 23:32 Post subject: Bitching about... Israel |
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Yes you heard me, time to bitch about Israel.
Reasons for this thread
1. I will NOT go into World Headlines and answer to every thread there (plus I get so fucking angry reading all stupid comments about how Israel has the right to do this and that all the time so I'll get banned if I keep doing that)
2. Israel seriously needs to be set in place and be punished for what they are doing.
3. I like to bitch 
Just let me get a few things straight first to avoid confusion/talk about racism/nazism/whatever.
I have NOTHING against Jews or any other people for that matter. I think nazis/racist are some of the stupidiest fucks on this planet. With that said let gets started...
So lets see here, Israel with their tanks, choppers and all kinds of modern guns obtained/given from the US of A (don't get me started on them too!) seem to think they have the right to take over land as they feel like.. But wait now, I think that after world war 2 the jewish people were GIVEN a piece of fucking land to live on... Hmm that sounds fair, they had been followed and didn't "belong" anywhere... Hmm sounds real good and nice of the rest of the world, darn they gotta be happy and grateful for that.
Well I am sure they are, however they seem to think that because they have always been victims they have the right to attack other countries, build a wall, steal land from another country WITHOUT A FUCKING REASON, kill people that can do nothing but throw rocks with thanks and automatic rifles.
They also think that the country that has no army, no real economy and a government chosen by the people (but refuses to accept that) should stop first and then they will stop... Suuuuuuuuure, just another damn dumb reason to occupy some land and think you're great.
Oh wait, am I defending terrorists now? NO I am NOT! Terrorists are not good, but let me tell you a little something here. If you really think about it.. Israel are terrorists too, just on a much larger scale. They keep an entire piece of land constantly under pressure and fucks around as hell there destroying stuff all the time, pulls out, goes in again.
Will that stop their enemies? No it will just make it easier for their enemies to get more people into their ranks and let the war go on. You can't fight fire with fire. Never.
Sure both sides are doing bad and injustice things... But who has the superior military force here? Who occupies land? Who, if anyone, should've learned from the past that violence solves nothing? I'll leave it for you to answer that...
Ok, onto the next thing. This has been going on for a long time, yes! It really has. You know it, I know it... The saddest thing is that noone criticizes israel for it. They should face consequences for what they are doing. Its a fucking country doing it towards another country because of what some terrorists started doing. How can anyone seriously think that ruining things for the civilians make the ranks of the terrorists thinner?
The big wall then? Hmmm, yeah smart move... Get left alone by building a big fucking wall.. But wait, is it built on the border? Nooo, its built outside the border to widen the landmass of israel... Well how clever, but perhaps you never thought of that it will not do anything good in the long run. Looks like a great idea right now but what about in 20 years? Will it be left alone? Will it ever be accepted? Fuck no...
Ok, enough about Israel Palestina for now... Lets move on to more recent happenings.
Some terrorist faction (Hizbollah) kidnaps a few soldiers and kill some too. Is that good? Nope,not at all. So they demand a ransom for them, hmm ok but wait, Israel refuses to pay any kind of many for kidnapped soldiers. So what to they do? Yeah I have a great idea. Lets get the tanks rolling and pursue them, so what happens? An APC gets blown up and a few more israeli soldiers die... Oh My God! Something must be done, yeah I know. Drop some flyers and say this and this will be bombed, get out... Hmm ok, I bet all civilians will leave and all terrorists stay.. Mmmm YEAH! All terrorists leaves and the civilians who has no other choice but to stay, stays. Whats next? Is that bombs? Yeah lets bomb the infrastructure. FUCK YEAH!
Lets get those damn bridges that are for nothing but terrorist traffic.. Yeah I bet no civilians ever uses that... Oh and that airport, god damn that is no good. Its only used for military equipment anyway. That harbor, oh my gosh it must be used for secret terrorists subs with nukes!?!?!
Now what, I have a great idea. Lets start bombing some civilians and tourists... Hmm is that a canadian family? Yeah lets bust them! Is that a swedish family visiting some friends? Lets bomb the whole damn town so they never will be able to get out of there and die there. So what now? Lets keep bombing and say that all terrorists are always close to the border and when civilians dies its just a missile missing its target..
Expect some more bitching in a forum close to you whenever there is a whitty reply here!
Oh btw, the only reason Israel can keep on doing this is because of that USA is standing behind their back and protecting them. If any other country would've done this I am sure as hell the US of fucking A would be there in 2minutes and invade the crap out of them.
Over and out for now!
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jul 2006 23:40 Post subject: |
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I agree.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jul 2006 23:52 Post subject: |
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every fucking living thing (from the bacteria to the homo sapiens) should die to set peace on earth.
beacuse MAN is a greedy bastard , he always asks for more
MORE LAND , MORE MONEY , MORE RESPECT , MORE MORE MORE...
if you want to do the world a favor , destroy it by killing every living thing
and raise the fucking nitrogen ratio in air , so none of the bodies will rot and none of the fucking bacterias will evolve in 2 billion years and become humans.
if you cant do these , just kill yourself , like i am gonna do.
because i am sick of theist bastards , some really smart people who reside in vatican control them
some smart people who live in mekka control them .
they kill each other all the time , go read history you will see a lot of muslim - nonmuslim fights , its been like 1400 years and these fuckers are still fighting.
is that what the religion promised ?
why the fuck do you need to kill neighbor for a fucking little piece of land man ?
WHY ?
wake up , you will die too! you will be fertilizing goddamn plants man , you wont go to jannah and wont have 40 virgins when you die in jihad !!! you will be fucking dead, worms will eat your body!
you are not different than jews nor christians! nor they are different than you!!!
why the fuck all of the human beings are gluttonous curs man ?!!! get up ! if you are a real believer , dont go to churches mosques synagogues , just go to unicef instead ,
if you believe in a god he will ask you '' what have you done for me ''
will you say i went to church on sundays and donated money ? will you say i went to mosque on fridays donated the mosque ? will you say i went to synagogues on saturdays donated money ?
what if god says '' you have done these for yourself , what exactly have you done for me ? ''
yes i am the god , and do something for me go help poor people
go help the 90% of african population , stop discriminating , stop the war , give your brother a hug , drop your weapons , demolish the wall , leave in peace together
whats the purpose of killing ?!!
ps : ignore this post
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jul 2006 23:57 Post subject: |
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^ 
I agree with Kosmiq tho 
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X_Dror
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 00:01 Post subject: |
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LOL, for some reason people tend to give to much attention to us.
thousands of people just died yesterday from a Tzunami in Indonesia but no one seems to care. Hmmm i wonder why. Iraq had another huge massacre but again, no one seems to care.
But when Israel, is defending itself, the whole world is rising up against it. hmmm i wonder why.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 00:01 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | LOL, for some reason people tend to give to much attention to us.
thousands of people just died yesterday from a Tzunami in Indonesia but no one seems to care. Hmmm i wonder why. Iraq had another huge massacre but again, no one seems to care.
But when Israel, is defending itself, the whole world is rising up against it. hmmm i wonder why. |
last i saw it was like 260 people died.... |
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X_Dror
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Godlikez*
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 00:56 Post subject: |
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 01:00 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: |
Too bad some people actually believe it  |
Well the reason I pay such attention to the middle eastern situation is because that is something that can be helped and a solution worked out. A tsunami, while it sure is sad, there's not much to be done about and its nature doing it. The middle-eastern situation is done by men against men.
If I create a thread where I bitch about tsunamis it would be like,
| Code: | | damn a new tsunami, poor bastards, but its nature, not much we can do about it :( |
This though, it can create debate, it has been going on for a long long time. A tsunami comes one day and is gone the next. Its only the post-tsunami after that.
It will be a long time before we'll see post-israel vs. palestina sadly enough, but debate makes people think. Whenever people think they come to conclusions (well most of us atleast) and that will lead to a good thing in the long run. Mostly atleast.
X_Dror, I understand your side in this. Your from Israel, probably born there and lived there youre entire life. Youre living in the conflict seeing palestinian factions blow up busse and so on. I have no trouble understanding that you support and believe in your governments doings. Hell, I would probably react the same. However, I don't live there and see it all from a more... Well independed point of view. Thus I think what I think and stand for my believes in this matter.
I have nothing against you, you seem like a nice person and mostly adds some constructive posts to whatever the thread is about...
However, I also love to debate about things as both 'sides' can give points and tell what they think. However, by creating this in the bitching spot I can also swear a lot and just add some aggressive posts without any real purpose but to annoy and boil it up a bit...
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Demonium
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 01:07 Post subject: |
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What's disturbing is that Israel would rather see the world decay in radioactive waste if they got besieged.
jenni <3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 01:24 Post subject: |
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| Demonium wrote: | | What's disturbing is that Israel would rather see the world decay in radioactive waste if they got besieged. |
If I'll ever have the power to influence Israel's nuclear policy, I'll make sure that always there will be a spare nuke for Sweden.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 01:56 Post subject: |
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It's quite intresting how people always are making a disclaimer when they are about to discuss world events that they are not a national socialist or a racist. Seriously, you don't have to be a national socialist or a racist because you don't like what Israel are doing. I'm not going to deny that the majority of the national socialists today have "all indians in the canoe". What I'm trying to say is that most people out there don't even know what national socialism is. The only thing they know is that they believe in a racial theroy, and that they want to keep things straight in their country (nationalism), and that's about it. That's the reason why most people hate 'em. I bet not a single person could answer me when I ask how the national socialistic agricultural planning would look like, how their industrial economy would look like. I'm just being annoyed by the fact that people hate things they don't know about. Sure, I'm not fond of national socialism either, but I do agree with some things, and disagree with others.
People won't recognize you as a national socialist the first thing they do if you are having arguments which goes against USA, if you are against the mighty US, you're a communist, according to them.
Oh, by the way. I'm not a socialist, democrat, christian, communist, poet, vegitarian, militarist, nationalist, hindu, juche-follower, rabbi, jehova's wittnes, scout or a teacher. To be really sure that this is getting to everybody: This post is not only for kosmiq, but to all of you who are bitching about this. And please, accept my sarcasm with your arms wide open.
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Demonium
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 02:00 Post subject: |
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| mark322 wrote: | | Demonium wrote: | | What's disturbing is that Israel would rather see the world decay in radioactive waste if they got besieged. |
If I'll ever have the power to influence Israel's nuclear policy, I'll make sure that always there will be a spare nuke for Sweden. |
Go ahead, boy, nuke the Wallenberg family.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 02:10 Post subject: |
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| Demonium wrote: | | mark322 wrote: | | Demonium wrote: | | What's disturbing is that Israel would rather see the world decay in radioactive waste if they got besieged. |
If I'll ever have the power to influence Israel's nuclear policy, I'll make sure that always there will be a spare nuke for Sweden. |
Go ahead, boy, nuke the Wallenberg family. |
I'm sure they would understand the urge to do this. After all, you seem to know the truth-Israel is an evil state that in times of desparation would nuke the whole world.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 02:11 Post subject: |
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I am on the site of israel this time...
the fuckers wanted it... they got it... now they cry...
WELL FUCKING DONT KIDNAP THERE SOLDIERS AND KEEP EVRYTHING IN PEACE YOU FUCKING MORONS
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 11:59 Post subject: |
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Nuke em to hell! This is the bitching forum so I don't give a two cents if the pro-Israeli are desperately trying to defend their oh-so-humanitarian country! Bitch! Biiiiiiitch! |
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 14:04 Post subject: |
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Israeli ground forces have now crossed the lebanese borders, its basically an invasion now.
Honestly, I m so fed up with all of this Israeli bullshit.
Suffering hard times in the past doesnt give you the right to do whatever you please,
especially not kill innocents, there is never ever an excuse for that.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 15:33 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | Israeli ground forces have now crossed the lebanese borders, its basically an invasion now.
Honestly, I m so fed up with all of this Israeli bullshit.
Suffering hard times in the past doesnt give you the right to do whatever you please,
especially not kill innocents, there is never ever an excuse for that. |
Why do you think that everything Israel does now relates somehow to the holocaust?
In case you didn't know, Israel is a sovereign country and has the right to protect itself from fucktards who target its civilians. Dead civilians in Lebanon is hizbulla's first priority and they achieve it by blocking the escape routes from the villages that are about to get bombed. The civilians there let the hizbullah control their life and know they're eating the fruits of their policy.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 18:23 Post subject: |
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| mark322 wrote: | | D_A_Kuja wrote: | Israeli ground forces have now crossed the lebanese borders, its basically an invasion now.
Honestly, I m so fed up with all of this Israeli bullshit.
Suffering hard times in the past doesnt give you the right to do whatever you please,
especially not kill innocents, there is never ever an excuse for that. |
Why do you think that everything Israel does now relates somehow to the holocaust?
In case you didn't know, Israel is a sovereign country and has the right to protect itself from fucktards who target its civilians. Dead civilians in Lebanon is hizbulla's first priority and they achieve it by blocking the escape routes from the villages that are about to get bombed. The civilians there let the hizbullah control their life and know they're eating the fruits of their policy. |
Hmmm ok, so lets see here... If I follow you here Israel should not care about their own history and be very careful and respectful against other people after what happened to them. They if ANYONE should now what it is like. Hmm ok, real good point there...
So hizbollah blocking escape routes... Yeah sure, as if hizbollah wouldn't leave the area straight away?
Also what about this, what is Israel doing? Hmmm lets see, yeah I know. Blocking ships to enter harbors in libanon that are there to evacuate foreigners. Hmm ok, that smart and very nice of them.
This bombing won't stop any hizbollah, it will only make it easier for them to draft people and create a larger opposition against israel among the people. How can violence against violence ever bring a peace that will last? Its like adding 1 to 1 and claim it to be 7.
The peaceful way is the only way to go. Thats the only solution that will work. You can invade the whole damn world and there will always be recistance no matter what you do. Try to bring peace and peace will come in time, doing like this will only make the war go on longer. Simple as that. Just seem as if everyone seem to forget about that.
About defending itself. Yes Israel has the right to do that, I agree on it. BUT should other civilians from another country suffer because of it? In every war the civlians gets the hardest hit directly or indirectly. Thats how it is. All it does is breeding more hate.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 18:29 Post subject: |
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I agree with Kosmiq and D_A_Kuja.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 18:35 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: | | mark322 wrote: | | D_A_Kuja wrote: | Israeli ground forces have now crossed the lebanese borders, its basically an invasion now.
Honestly, I m so fed up with all of this Israeli bullshit.
Suffering hard times in the past doesnt give you the right to do whatever you please,
especially not kill innocents, there is never ever an excuse for that. |
Why do you think that everything Israel does now relates somehow to the holocaust?
In case you didn't know, Israel is a sovereign country and has the right to protect itself from fucktards who target its civilians. Dead civilians in Lebanon is hizbulla's first priority and they achieve it by blocking the escape routes from the villages that are about to get bombed. The civilians there let the hizbullah control their life and know they're eating the fruits of their policy. |
Hmmm ok, so lets see here... If I follow you here Israel should not care about their own history and be very careful and respectful against other people after what happened to them. They if ANYONE should now what it is like. Hmm ok, real good point there...
So hizbollah blocking escape routes... Yeah sure, as if hizbollah wouldn't leave the area straight away?
Also what about this, what is Israel doing? Hmmm lets see, yeah I know. Blocking ships to enter harbors in libanon that are there to evacuate foreigners. Hmm ok, that smart and very nice of them.
This bombing won't stop any hizbollah, it will only make it easier for them to draft people and create a larger opposition against israel among the people. How can violence against violence ever bring a peace that will last? Its like adding 1 to 1 and claim it to be 7.
The peaceful way is the only way to go. Thats the only solution that will work. You can invade the whole damn world and there will always be recistance no matter what you do. Try to bring peace and peace will come in time, doing like this will only make the war go on longer. Simple as that. Just seem as if everyone seem to forget about that.
About defending itself. Yes Israel has the right to do that, I agree on it. BUT should other civilians from another country suffer because of it? In every war the civlians gets the hardest hit directly or indirectly. Thats how it is. All it does is breeding more hate. |
Your mistake is that you dare to compare the extermination of almost an entire nation to war on terrorism. Israel does what it can to prevent civilian casualties but shit happens in war. We just want our soldiers back and to have someone to protect the borders from the lebanese side.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 18:39 Post subject: |
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Every sane, non brainwashed person completely agrees with them. It's immoral what Israel is doing now. Those who can't see it just ought to enlist in the military forces and fight for the bull shit cause that they think they’re seeing.
God damn it. Shooting civilians willy-nilly, what the fuck is that?
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 18:43 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | Every sane, non brainwashed person completely agrees with them. It's immoral what Israel is doing now. Those who can't see it just ought to enlist in the military forces and fight for the bull shit cause that they think they’re seeing.
God damn it. Shooting civilians willy-nilly, what the fuck is that? |
So why don't you bitch about the palestinians/ hizbullah? arent "shooting civlians willy-nilly" is what they're doing?
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 19:16 Post subject: |
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Look. Israel is defending itself. So are Palestinians/ Hezbollah.
Both are loosing civilians willy-nilly. Yet, our governments tell us we should only care about Israel? That's bull shit. You’re telling me that this is fair?
I’m not supporting anyone. I’m against the loss of life. All I can see is that everyone agrees with Israel is defending itself and murdering innocent life, while, everyone is angry at Palestinians/Hezbollah because they are defending themselves and murdering innocent Israeli life.
See where I’m getting at? It’s ok to kill one and not the other? That’s bull shit.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jul 2006 19:19 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | Look. Israel is defending itself. So are Palestinians/ Hezbollah.
Both are loosing civilians willy-nilly. Yet, our governments tell us we should only care about Israel? That's bull shit. You’re telling me that this is fair?
I’m not supporting anyone. I’m against the loss of life. All I can see is that everyone agrees with Israel is defending itself and murdering innocent life, while, everyone is angry at Palestinians/Hezbollah because they are defending themselves and murdering innocent Israeli life.
See where I’m getting at? It’s ok to kill one and not the other? That’s bull shit. |
I dunno what your country tells you to think neither care. What I see here is a thread bitching about how evil is Israel, without mentioning the crimes of the arab terrorist organizations and was pointing that out.
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