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 Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 12:19 Post subject: AMD/Intel Processors |
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I work for a small computer shop and I am currently updating our custom build specification. In the past we have always used AMD processors but I am now considering Intel. I have heard the Celerons are pretty crap but their clock speeds are far superior to the AMD 754 alternatives and its the clock speeds the average customer looks at. Its difficult to promote the AMD CPUs since the clock speeds are to be honest pretty unnattractive when compared to the Intel range.
Also how come the 754 Sempron processors have clock speeds slower than the socket A Athlons? The clock speed on a socket A 2800 Athlon is 2000mhz but 2800 754 is only 1600mhz! Arent these things supposed to get better and faster not slower as technology progresses!?
It makes no sense!?!
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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Saner
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 12:26 Post subject: |
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AMD have allways done shit like that.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 13:39 Post subject: |
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I guess you know nothing of engineering. Chips speeds are meaningless unless theyre the same design. The 2.2ghz Athlon64 (even 754) is so much faster than a 3.2ghz P4. Chip architecture is what matters and AMD are more efficient. They're the better company. They know what they're doing when it comes to creating a gaming processor. Intel can have their workstation processing.
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headshot
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 14:00 Post subject: |
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lol no I know nothing of engineering and I understand what you are saying but if the chips are different then you're saying you cant compare them or there is no point comparing them? For the customers who know nothing whatsoever about AMD and Intel processors, I think explaining that will be futile as they will look at the clock speeds and if the Sempron is slower than the Celeron, then they will go for the Celeron.
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 14:52 Post subject: |
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| headshot wrote: | | lol no I know nothing of engineering and I understand what you are saying but if the chips are different then you're saying you cant compare them or there is no point comparing them? For the customers who know nothing whatsoever about AMD and Intel processors, I think explaining that will be futile as they will look at the clock speeds and if the Sempron is slower than the Celeron, then they will go for the Celeron. |
Then again, isnt it your job to set them straight?
The whole GhZ war is long over, and AMD cpu's can do much more at lower clock cycles than intel cpu's. If you compare them, the amd works at lower cycles but perform just as fast or often better then a intel cpu at a higher clock rate. This makes the amd cpu run cooler and much less energy consuming. An amd athlon 64 3200+ is as fast or faster then a intel @ 3,4ghz depending on what you do with it. Intel cpus is better for editing movies and music and such and amd totaly pwns i games.
Ask your customers what they are gong to use their comps for and take it from there!
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nerrd
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 14:54 Post subject: |
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I feel your pain headshot. I dont own a store, but i do build and sell customs on a fairly stable basis. Its hard to explain to first time buyers why AMD is better for them then Intel, especially when they didn't even hear the word "AMD" before.
ps. are you the headshot that I used to own in Iron Toe dojo? =). If yes how come you dont play anymore?
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headshot
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 16:22 Post subject: |
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Sorry for coming off as an ass, wasn't my intention.
Do your best to compare it to something theyre familliar with. For instance a car. Say you've got 2 cars, one with 400 horsepower, and another with 300 horsepower. The 400 horsepower car weighs the same as a feather and has no torque, and the 300 horsepower car has plenty of torque and has been weight balanced, which would win in a race?
That was the fist analogy that popped into my head.
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headshot
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lol thats ok but that was a bad example and I have no clue whatsoever! I know nothing of cars, torque or horsepower! lmao!
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pancake
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:21 Post subject: |
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| headshot wrote: | | lol thats ok but that was a bad example and I have no clue whatsoever! I know nothing of cars, torque or horsepower! lmao! |
...Neither do I... But I took science in 6th grade...
DAMNIT, why do i always come off as such an asshole. Also, I've worked in computer sales, comparing them to things people already know a lot about works wonders. |
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Phluxed
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Hahahaha, I didn't even notice it.
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