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 Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 19:52 Post subject: Should I upgrade my vidcard? |
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Hi all,
I'm thinking of getting a newer vidcard...currently using a Radeon 9500...but wonder if it's worth the money to get a higher end card when my system is only a Pentium 1.6. I've read that a lower-end CPU like this tends to act as a performance bottleneck for the newer cards, and one might as well upgrade the entire system if wanting to get a higher end vidcard. Any constructive thoughts and/or suggestions? TIA...
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deelix
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Rzooq
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 20:05 Post subject: |
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Better post it in Hardware Zone
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 23:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 03:20 Post subject: |
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Sorry about the mispost mods...forgot about the hardware zone forum.
Thanks for the suggestion deelix.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 08:21 Post subject: |
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Actually don't upgrade your gfx card xterm. It's not worth it, your cpu speed is not very fast either, so unless your motherboard has an PCI-E slot i wouldn't upgrade it. AGP is obsolete already, it would really be a waste of money, save some cash and get a new system with an PCI-E slot instead.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 17:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 22:08 Post subject: |
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Yes I pretty well figured out that the better long-term option is to just save up the cash and build a new system that has PCI-E, since the other options involve spending over $100 ($225 for a nVidia 6800GS as it turns out) for an AGP card that I may have difficulty migrating to a new mobo in the future, since AGP is being phased out. Most of the new mobos incorporate PCI-E now. Even a Radeon 9800XT costs $174 at Newegg...that's hardly "really cheap" by my standards...and that money would be better spent on a new system I should think. Thanks for the input everyone, it's appreciated!
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 23:09 Post subject: |
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| xterm wrote: | | Yes I pretty well figured out that the better long-term option is to just save up the cash and build a new system that has PCI-E, since the other options involve spending over $100 ($225 for a nVidia 6800GS as it turns out) for an AGP card that I may have difficulty migrating to a new mobo in the future, since AGP is being phased out. Most of the new mobos incorporate PCI-E now. Even a Radeon 9800XT costs $174 at Newegg...that's hardly "really cheap" by my standards...and that money would be better spent on a new system I should think. Thanks for the input everyone, it's appreciated! |
i got my 6800LE for 100euro & transformed to 6800GT so i'm very happy with it
about PCi-Ex i don't think i would migrate to it in near future,but if u can afford it go for it
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006 06:35 Post subject: |
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Another way to go would be a motherboard with the ULi chipset. Like the asrock one released that has both AGP and PCI-e support. Made for A64 of course.
People have managed to get some insane overclocks with those m/b's too. So whats the catch? None actually, very cheap motherboard and stable too atleast what I know of.
Sure not top-of-the-line in any way but it has SATA2 support and so on.
That could be a pretty cheap upgrade, pair that up with a nice A64 CPU and you will have some power. Also maybe you should check wether your 9500 can be modifed into a 9700Pro and run fine with that, it will give some improvement and you will get away cheap.
Truth is that the most limiting factor is the CPU and getting a new AGP motherboard is not really an option IMHO.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006 15:00 Post subject: |
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The Asrock Dual is not a bad board and does not have a crappy chipset, if you read the reviews on it you will see that it compares nicely with nforce 4 boards. I got one because I have an X800 xt that I just got last year but still wanted to be able to upgrade to pcie sometime. This board has worked flawlessly with my new AMD64 4000+.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006 15:13 Post subject: |
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| velum wrote: | | The Asrock Dual is not a bad board and does not have a crappy chipset, if you read the reviews on it you will see that it compares nicely with nforce 4 boards. I got one because I have an X800 xt that I just got last year but still wanted to be able to upgrade to pcie sometime. This board has worked flawlessly with my new AMD64 4000+. |
Excactly what I was going to say except the "I have one" part.
Go read aome about it at forums, reviews and see what people thinks about it.
And why not keep his gfx card for the time being? He will notice difference with a new CPU and have the option to use it NOW instead of later when he can afford it all.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006 20:30 Post subject: |
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| velum wrote: | | The Asrock Dual is not a bad board and does not have a crappy chipset, if you read the reviews on it you will see that it compares nicely with nforce 4 boards. I got one because I have an X800 xt that I just got last year but still wanted to be able to upgrade to pcie sometime. This board has worked flawlessly with my new AMD64 4000+. |
A X800XT might be worth buying such a dual board, but a 9500 is not worth it.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006 20:42 Post subject: |
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| velum wrote: | | The Asrock Dual is not a bad board and does not have a crappy chipset, if you read the reviews on it you will see that it compares nicely with nforce 4 boards. I got one because I have an X800 xt that I just got last year but still wanted to be able to upgrade to pcie sometime. This board has worked flawlessly with my new AMD64 4000+. |
man because it's not asus,msi etc.. it's crap,thats how many ppl think & buying expensive ass mobos wich they will have to upgrade next year
me i got asrock p4s55fx2 with crapy sis chipset as many will say but for me it's just stable mobo with no incompability issues or overheating & stuff like that, wich cost me 40$ a year ago
remember asus can be crap too,they also have "broken" mobos & sure not worth twise of that money that asrock cost
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ELIZ, wtf are you trying to say? He clearly stated that he likes the board... Other people were flaming it.
Still it is a good board, it has some nice features and it will help you on the way if you can't afford mb, cpu and gfx all at the same time.
Then about the CPU, there's no idea shelling out the extra money for a 4000+, just go get a 3700+ with E4 core and you can overclock it when the need comes.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006 04:59 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: | ELIZ, wtf are you trying to say? He clearly stated that he likes the board... Other people were flaming it.
Still it is a good board, it has some nice features and it will help you on the way if you can't afford mb, cpu and gfx all at the same time.
Then about the CPU, there's no idea shelling out the extra money for a 4000+, just go get a 3700+ with E4 core and you can overclock it when the need comes. |
yeah I thought about getting 3700 and oc it, but I prefer stability and not risking my investment. My 4000+ will last me quite a while and if I want I can easily oc to fx55 speeds, but I will most likely get a dual core next year sometime, after the new ones come out and more things use them. I am gettiing a hefty chunk of change from my tax return, so I am going to go ahead and get a new vid card, x1900 or the g71
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006 05:13 Post subject: |
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Wait until cards that support directx 10 come out sometime this spring or summer. That's when I plan on updating my 9700 
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If you are going to overclock anyway a 3700+ will be just as good as any 4000+, it is all a matter of stepping. Adding the fact that the 4000+ costs a lot more than the 3700+ for a mere 200Mhz increase is not really doing anything better IMO.
On the other hand, if you have waited until now you might aswell wait until Socket M2 gets released this summer if you feel like.
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Weight your options in terms of what you are going to use it for. I have a new graphics card (that supports DX9) and a decent enough gaming rig but there's nothing that is utilising that hardware other than FEAR which I don't really like in the first place (so go figure).
I've upgraded to one of the best AGP card you can get right now (and probably forever considering the PCI-e bandwagon). I want to milk everything out of my current system before I start another rebuilding and the simple fact is that there isn't a single game or application out there at the moment (or in the near future) that NEEDS me to either.
I've been using the GF4ti for so long now I bypassed the whole FX nonsense and I haven't even blinked an eye. Don't be fooled by benchmarks and all the rest of it, you only need what you are going to use.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jan 2006 01:55 Post subject: |
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if you get a motherboard with pci-x now then later down the road you can upgrade your video card. Last year Nvidia and ATi didn't release one video card under apg format. So if you get another apg board now you will most likely have to buy a pci-x board not to far long after that.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jan 2006 02:07 Post subject: |
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I doubt it, but we'll see.
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, i was trying to say that asrock not as bad because they are cheap as most of the ppl think
