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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 11:47    Post subject: Work
Fuck.. I'm doing 12-16 hour days, normal job + study busting my balls.. also watching buffoons slot into roles I absolutely outclass them in. I'm finding people making decisions don't actually know what they need, and not in a position to influence.

Crying or Very sad think I have to unfortunately quit despite knowing how big an impact I could make for this company. It's hard going into work, seeing a team doing (poorly) what I could do effortlessly.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 12:38    Post subject:
Tell someone?


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 12:48    Post subject: Re: Work
AmpegV4 wrote:
Fuck.. I'm doing 12-16 hour days, normal job + study busting my balls.. also watching buffoons slot into roles I absolutely outclass them in. I'm finding people making decisions don't actually know what they need, and not in a position to influence.

Crying or Very sad think I have to unfortunately quit despite knowing how big an impact I could make for this company. It's hard going into work, seeing a team doing (poorly) what I could do effortlessly.


Trust me, it's like that in many many companies.

My first job as a student, was to assemble lamp housings for professional use like photography studios and so on. My work involved sitting at a bench with a bunch of tools (drill, riveting machine, etc.) and assembling one lamp housing at a time.

After the first day I immediately thought it went too slow like that so what I did was make a small "assembly line" where I placed 5 housings besides each-other and then repeated each action 5 times in a row. It meant I only had to grab a certain tool once for 5 lamps instead of 5 times.

My boss there saw how fast I was going and I worked way faster than people who had been working there for years so he started giving me more complex jobs. The guy working in the magazine who provided me with the parts was very positive too.

And then ... there was everyone else. I was a young know-it-all, who had never worked a day in my life, who was I to think I knew better than them, bla bla bla. They saw me as a threat because working faster means less working hours to them. But the thing is, not only was my method faster, it reduced the amount of errors because you did things in sequence whereas I was told that the other workers would make more errors doing everything one housing at a time since they had to get the order right every single time whereas I had to remember it only once per 5 housings + I already placed everything in order of when it had to be attached.

But the truth is, that people have all sorts of ulterior motives. The benefit of the company often comes last. Creating more working hours, working the way they like the most (not what is most efficient), etc. matters most to them and often the people at the top have no idea how badly everything is going compared to how good it could go because everyone benefits from this lazy system except for the company and the people up top.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 12:50    Post subject:
Absolutely, but slightly more complex as I'm a consultant wanting to break off and go direct with this client (2 yrs at client now). I was actually recommended to a guy in the company perfect forthe role, sent him over chat and followed up over email > so far no response. What's funnier is I'm meeting with him and his team for the first time tomorrow to implement some stuff his team need to do but don't have the skillset for.

I'll report how he reacts to 'hi I'm xxx and this is how's it's done', then go from there Cool

Edit: redavater > Yep the game sucks and your right it's a common thing in the workplace. I've be been playing the game and doing some "influencing", so far though it's hilariously backfired as I covered people's asses for kudos / reputation rather than broadcasting it co. Wide. They've started a team to rectify issues I called out in the background.
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 23:00    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Fuck.. I'm doing 12-16 hour days, normal job + study busting my balls.. also watching buffoons slot into roles I absolutely outclass them in. I'm finding people making decisions don't actually know what they need, and not in a position to influence.

Crying or Very sad think I have to unfortunately quit despite knowing how big an impact I could make for this company. It's hard going into work, seeing a team doing (poorly) what I could do effortlessly.


Ehhh holy crap, thats VERY close to my current situation. Mine is a little further ahead though.... i work my ass off, i do arrive late, so theres that. I handle quite a chunk of the big projects there, i know a LOT about the business and yet i didnt get promoted and a new guy got promoted over me.

So go figure. Everything else is just as you describe, and i gotta say, this is my first work and its quickly going to become my first job switch. Im done there as far as my superiors go.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 03:37    Post subject:
most of who is rich ever got their hands really dirty for long periods of time, they made others do all the dirty work and scam people out of their money with bullshit fees, fake hours, ridicoulous consulting, all that bullcrap. Look how all consumer goods are geting smaller or scimmed of, aerodynamic soaps with holes in em, candy getting smaller and smaller.

all the cunts who come up with this scams are rich. hard workers , u getting screwed , with that iphone dangling in front of ur eyes that was assembled in china by kids for 10% of its retail value

thats all the twats with the fast cars, no hard working man would waste half a million on some dumb sports car, only twats who didnt work for it and pay it using others peoples money...




once u figure out ur paycheque gets halved cause 50% taxes, + extra 20% on top on stuff u buy and then when u die they have no shame taken again 50% of whats left. why the fuck would u work hard. wake up smell the roses. we are all just plebs farmers working for the decadent guy in the castle banging ur wife and buying ur daughter and we dont even know it anymore ...

pride? brainwashed u successfully in school making u get good grades and getting used to the working mans schedule
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 08:02    Post subject: Re: Work
AmpegV4 wrote:
Fuck.. I'm doing 12-16 hour days, normal job + study busting my balls.. also watching buffoons slot into roles I absolutely outclass them in. I'm finding people making decisions don't actually know what they need, and not in a position to influence.

Crying or Very sad think I have to unfortunately quit despite knowing how big an impact I could make for this company. It's hard going into work, seeing a team doing (poorly) what I could do effortlessly.


I don't think your ego is big enough, increase it even more and you will sail through life. Oh, also can you pop over to Africa and solve world hunger, pass by the middle east and solve the conflicts there? All in a day's work to you I'm sure.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 12:16    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Fuck.. I'm doing 12-16 hour days, normal job + study busting my balls.. also watching buffoons slot into roles I absolutely outclass them in. I'm finding people making decisions don't actually know what they need, and not in a position to influence.

Crying or Very sad think I have to unfortunately quit despite knowing how big an impact I could make for this company. It's hard going into work, seeing a team doing (poorly) what I could do effortlessly.


I don't think your ego is big enough, increase it even more and you will sail through life. Oh, also can you pop over to Africa and solve world hunger, pass by the middle east and solve the conflicts there? All in a day's work to you I'm sure.


Sure fuck me for having any self worth, I didn't have a good day at work for OP. In the past I'd probably sail into self-deprecation and provide no one any real value, but I've learnt that lesson and what good does that do for anyone?

I gave his team a nice overview of how things work, what I think they need to do to achieve their goals and they can take or leave it. I've been asked for CV and rate, either way I'll roll into something I want to do in the next month or two.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 12:55    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
most of who is rich ever got their hands really dirty for long periods of time, they made others do all the dirty work and scam people out of their money with bullshit fees, fake hours, ridicoulous consulting, all that bullcrap. Look how all consumer goods are geting smaller or scimmed of, aerodynamic soaps with holes in em, candy getting smaller and smaller

Etc.


It's not quite as simple. The richest people are getting richer but the middle class, many of who were small business owners, have it harder than ever, working long hours for no certainty and being competed to death by the huge corporations. Your local boss is taking big risks and bears many responsibilities.

Last year, I was invited to become co-owner of the company I work for which meant than if the owner were to die, I'd inherit the company. I declined politely because the pressure of owning a small-ish business (€2.500.000 yearly turn over so not that small) is not to be underestimated.

It takes a lot of dedication to run a successful company and just sitting back and letting your workers do it all doesn't work. Keeping workers stimulated and motivated, preventing clashes, boosting moral and creativity, increasing efficiency - it takes constant work and time.

My last boss went from having a big farm-style house with pool house and lots of land + top end Audi car and owning a company that had 35 workers to living on welfare in a 1 room flat.
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:11    Post subject:
Shit got dark really quickly here Laughing I mean we can be happy in a stable income job that lets you enjoy the things you like... But i dont know.... i guess the mind needs constant progression. At something. (hence why i love some types of games... im a sheeple i guess Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:31    Post subject:
I've grown up hearing janteloven is a scandinavian thing. Guess thats wrong Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:42    Post subject:
Lopin18 wrote:
Shit got dark really quickly here Laughing I mean we can be happy in a stable income job that lets you enjoy the things you like... But i dont know.... i guess the mind needs constant progression. At something. (hence why i love some types of games... im a sheeple i guess Very Happy )


It's a rather interesting topic - we do need to feel like we're not stuck in a rut and that's partially why I didn't do too well at school, because they made everything progressively harder so you never felt like you got smarter and better. It's the same with our personal life - we want to buy betters cars, bigger houses, own more expensive stuff - but if it goes the other way, it makes us unhappy.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 14:11    Post subject:
not only does it make u unhappy, it makes u less of a person, feeling entitled, feeling better then other people, asserting that power out of boredom once u get to a point money doesnt matter and descending into vileness for thatr next rush.

this whole brainwash imprint started from school, laughing at the kids with bad grades ....

its gross when u actually realize whats going on

putting a smile on another persons face, priceles, try it some time , and not with gifts, with time, nothing wrong with wanting to achieve, but for which goal, and not at the cost of others
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 14:20    Post subject:
red_avatar wrote:
My last boss went from having a big farm-style house with pool house and lots of land + top end Audi car and owning a company that had 35 workers to living on welfare in a 1 room flat.


very interesting story, would u mind telling us how that came about without revealing any personal stuff

did he feel he owed his well being to his employees and kept going too long paying people with no income in sight?

i also declined my dads company. allthough he did have the sit back and shout approach, but its contstruction, pretty much most is routine in that business with sub contracters.

he owes the bank 3 mill some times of the year lol Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 14:22    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
this whole imprint started from school, laughing at the kids with bad grades ....

its gross when u actually realize whats going on


And before enlightenment its fine to laugh at other kids? Razz Im lucky to say, that I didn't experience that much at all. This particular 'kids laughing at other because of grades'. But I dont think you meant it this way anyway, right?

The whole desire of feeling superior is very apparent in a lot of places and its effect are perhaps only negative. Some people even try to obtain power at their own expense by taking jobs with no actual benefits, but with some added stress.

I for one find it much more satisfying to help others, but hey, that's just me Laughing
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