Casus vs. the haters vs. the gaming industry
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 06:56    Post subject:
Awww, the proud white nerd-ragers hating on Bioware for trying to be inclusive? Wink

That's a shock.

What about the actual game, though?
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:05    Post subject:
I'm with @Casus > PRE ORDERED! GOTY! , your all just haters > Valve take notes, this is how you make games.

Smile
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:09    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
I'm with @Casus > PRE ORDERED! GOTY! , your all just haters > Valve take notes, this is how you make games.

Smile


You must have low standards if this is your GOTY.

Better than the vast majority of Valve games, that's for sure, though.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:15    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
I'm with @Casus > PRE ORDERED! GOTY! , your all just haters > Valve take notes, this is how you make games.

Smile


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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:45    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
He basically excuses EA/Bioware for creating a really poor product then goes on ahead with I'm going to buy and play it anyway..

because mass effect !! I mean how derp do you want to be..


Who are you talking about?
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:46    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
He basically excuses EA/Bioware for creating a really poor product then goes on ahead with I'm going to buy and play it anyway..

because mass effect !! I mean how derp do you want to be..


Who are you talking about?

Nodrim wrote:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1354014


the op in Nodrim's link ^^
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:48    Post subject:
Well, disgruntled ex-employees can be found for pretty much any AAA production. That's just how it works.

Even if the person is real - it doesn't really mean anything.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:54    Post subject:
It's like the Witcher 3 downgrade spectacle all over again Smile

Funny how people forgot all about it once they got to play it.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 08:57    Post subject:
The apologism is real.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:07    Post subject:
That should qualify as pure hivemind behavior I think Wink
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:13    Post subject:
Yeah, well, lol Laughing
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:14    Post subject:
That's one compelling argument for aping each other Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:15    Post subject:


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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:24    Post subject:
People laugh at the fact that Bioware failed to deliver a game to match certain expectations, when in fact it's a cry situation since gaming industry is slowly sliding to "'tardlandia"

it's sad.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:29    Post subject:
PC gaming has been doomed for how many years now? 20?

Funny how we're all still here and enjoying ourselves.
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:49    Post subject:
I've long since stopped caring about the "advertisement vs reality" circlejerking (it's pointless, in any industry, as I said a few pages back) and let me tell you, I'm enjoying games much more this way.

I just try it, buy it if I like it, uninstall if not. Thanks to steam refunds, you can do this even if denuvo is in the way.

I think that if your expectations are reasonable, instead of blown out of proportions by false ads and exagerated hype, you will be less stressed and enjoy games more. Just my two cents tho. I know there's a lot of people out there that spend more time jerking off to frame-by-frame comparison videos than playing games. Whatever floats your boat, I won't judge.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:52    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
I've long since stopped caring about the "advertisement vs reality" circlejerking (it's pointless, in any industry, as I said a few pages back) and let me tell you, I'm enjoying games much more this way.

I just try it, buy it if I like it, uninstall if not. Thanks to steam refunds, you can do this even if denuvo is in the way.

I think that if your expectations are reasonable, instead of blown out of proportions by false ads and exagerated hype, you will be less stressed and enjoy games more. Just my two cents tho. I know there's a lot of people out there that spend more time jerking off to frame-by-frame comparison videos than playing games. Whatever floats your boat, I won't judge.


What a refreshing and reasonable position Smile
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 09:56    Post subject:
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:11    Post subject:
Was DA2 also not made by Bioware or was it EA being EA in that case too?

Casus wrote:
PC gaming has been doomed for how many years now? 20?

PC gaming has been ded and stinking for decades now Sad
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:15    Post subject:
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PC gaming has been ded and stinking for decades now Sad


Amazing how much fun I've had with stinking games, then Wink
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:18    Post subject:
Don't be shy and admit you're crying every time you play a PC game now, remembering those amazing days when everything was awesome Sad
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:22    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Don't be shy and admit you're crying every time you play a PC game now, remembering those amazing days when everything was awesome Sad


You're right!

Is manually mapping all these huge dungeons too much to ask for? Who decided these malicious auto-mapping features had to ruin all my fun!!!!!

*sad face*
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:24    Post subject:
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:24    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
To be fair here tho, it isn't actually Bioware that made this "game". So maybe we should stop with that and just call it what it is, EA being EA.


Was Inquisition made by the "main" team or by the same team as this?
I've yet to try the game, but from most reviews it seems to suffer from the same (or at least similar) problems: focus on square mileage rather than design quality of levels, bland "to-do list" quests, generic character interactions in order to allow for all "combinations" of romantic relationships, etc.

As I said, yet to try the game, but it smells of "da: inquisition in space"


Well, it does feel sort of like DA:I.

But I can clearly remember a SHIT-TON of ultra crappy side quests in the very first Mass Effect.

I'm guessing a lot of people forgot about all those hollow bland planets where you had to go and press a single button in one of those endless identical hallways - or kill a specific enemy - only to travel all the way back to the Citadel and complete the quest.

Is that the kind of golden age Mass Effect people are dying to see again?
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:25    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
Quote:
PC gaming has been ded and stinking for decades now Sad


Amazing how much fun I've had with stinking games, then Wink


To be honest, reading your comments in most topics you rarely have any fun and most things are sub par Wink :*
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:26    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
It's all about EA trying to get a easy cash in.

I.e. EA being EA Smile

That doesn't make sense though. Why was it developed for five years if it was a simple project?
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:26    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
The_Leaf wrote:
I think that if your expectations are reasonable, instead of blown out of proportions by false ads and exagerated hype, you will be less stressed and enjoy games more.


What false ads? All people have been discussing is how accurate the ads have been with their shitty animation, poor voice work, hamfisted agendas and so on. And who is stressed? It's quite fun, laughing at how poor things are in this game. The opposite of stress. I have 2 people in my office in stitches over some of the GIFs. But this is only until those who can't handle criticism arrive with their thinly veiled insults, and then the thread turns to shit again.

But back to it...

Reasonable expectation #1:
I expect the $60 game from EA/Bioware ($100 where I live) to have decent character and facial animation. Why is this reasonable? Because they're a publishing + development giant with a long history of creating games. One of the longest histories. Because $60/$100 should entitle anyone who buys a game at that price to a certain level of quality. I want a world that is immersive in every way, and in a game that relies heavily on conversations, I want interactions I have with characters to be somewhat believable.

Do you think I get that when this is staring me in the face?

What is unreasonable about that? Especially coming from 3 previous games where the expectations had already been set. No ME game was perfect, but they were all better than this tripe.

Meanwhile:
 Spoiler:
 


Should I even bother listing out writing? Dialogue? Voice work? Gameplay? The downgrade? Would it matter? Doubtful.


Have you actually played the game or are you focusing on the same handful of targeted "memes" to evaluate how the game actually plays?

It's like evaluating Witcher 3 based on this:

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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:27    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
Casus wrote:
Quote:
PC gaming has been ded and stinking for decades now Sad


Amazing how much fun I've had with stinking games, then Wink


To be honest, reading your comments in most topics you rarely have any fun and most things are sub par Wink :*


I thought you didn't read my comments?
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:27    Post subject:
Laughed at these gifs, laughed at the witcher 3 ones too, same for the ones from FO4. Why people get so triggered at others laughing at some silly gifs I'll never understand


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Mar 2017 10:28    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Laughed at these gifs, laughed at the witcher 3 ones too, same for the ones from FO4. Why people get so triggered at others laughing at some silly gifs I'll never understand


Why do people get so triggered by imagining people being triggered I'll never understand.
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