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sausje
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Anyone here that came from another country to Germany in recent years and had to learn the language?
A friend of mine is going to work as au pair in Germany most likely, for her visa it's a must to know basic German.
As my German is far from flawless, especially the writing, I'm looking for someone that had to learn it and hope for advice on what course/website is best to follow?
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 21:59 Post subject: |
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Hahah, like I said, it's not for me. My German is still good enough to be understood by most 
| Nalo wrote: | | Perhaps try duolingo. |
Hmm looks interesting, so kinda crowdsourced by the looks of it?
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 22:04 Post subject: |
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She'll probably need A1 niveau. Look if there is a Goethe Institute where she is. They have offices all around the globe. A1 should be doable in 6 weeks intensive training (4 hours, 5 days a week).
BTW sausje, your german would well pass A1 level.
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 22:13 Post subject: |
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Yeah A1 is something I saw being mentioned.
That institute is only in Manila, which means she has to travel from one side of the country to the other every day.. (or is it an online course with teachers?)
She lives close to Davao city, but searching for this only some random unknown companies come up that I don't know if they are trustworthy. (looking at one, asking 28.000 pesos (what for someone in that region is an insanely high amount).)
Pumpy, my German is understandable, but it's far from flawless, it still has lots of spelling mistakes and some wrong translations. I have no idea what the A1 type means, what words she needs to know, does she need to write it, how is being tested, what do they watch out for etc etc.
Since the au pair is some rich family, I'll just search for something that they can pay for her 
Haha I think that I'm personally more excited than her about this, because if she gets it, it will be for 2 years, so I might actually move to Germany again (though there i'll be in the same jobless situation as here, so idk if that would be smart..)
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 22:26 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | yes i read its not for you, but i just wrote it like that
i personally cant stand dutch people talking german, it sounds strange somehow. same as french people trying to speak english 
maybe she already knows people in germany? best way to lern it is talking with germans (a friend of mine came from, dunno some african country, to germany. he spoke better german after 6 months than most of the turkish people who were born here...) |
Haha, but I'm not a Dutch guy speaking German, I'm a German speaking Dutch
I doubt you would be able to hear that I'm Dutch if I would talk to you German (if you would ignore a few errors that is).
Though I don't want to teach her any of the mistakes I would still make these days, as the last time I really had to use German in speaking or writing for something important is like 12++ years ago, and before that I left Germany when I was 4, so the speaking and writing I know is purely from being around family in Germany every now and then.
@riptide77
Thanks, but how broad should you take that, because this:
-Can understand and use familiar everyday expressions and very basic phrases aimed at the satisfaction of needs of a concrete type.
-Can introduce him/herself and others and can ask and answer questions about personal details such as where he/she lives, people he/she knows and things he/she has.
-Can interact in a simple way provided the other person talks slowly and clearly and is prepared to help.
could be taken very broad with words you have to learn... :\
So what would be essential? I was thinking personally to help her learn the same way I used to learn English in class. By writing down 25 words with their translation and have 24 hours to learn them all and being able to write and speak them flawless. Each day new words and at the end of the week, all words combined to repeat. Would that be sufficient? Because as far as I can see, she doesn't need to be able to write it right?
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 23:34 Post subject: |
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You could use software: Rosetta stone, but then you still need some entry course to get more fluent.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 23:53 Post subject: |
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Used that to learn Tagalog, works actually quite good and effective. Though finding it properly cracked for Mac (she has shitty macbook) is the issue here 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jul 2015 07:31 Post subject: |
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@sausje: You won't be able to teach it to her. I was born in Germany (and I'm turkish and I speak german better than most germans @janz ) and yet I wasn't able to teach neither my wife nor my sister-in-law zilch. Your grammar game needs to be top notch.
riptide's link were what I wanted to link. Basically you have to be able to introduce you, "hello my name is x, I'm from bla where are you from?" and then of course understand the answer. You should also be able to ask for the way to a specific location and basically be able to have the most basic conversation to move around freely in germany.
Regarding the situation of the Goethe Institute: Yes, they are very expensive but they also have a consistent teaching system. She may try to find another course but if she comes to germany they will ask her for an A1 certificate. They accept the ones from Goethe without asking, but I'm not sure if you can even come here without an A1 certificate. So if she enlists in another course she has to make sure that they have proper certificates.
Another option is to try and call/mail the german embassy in manila/philippines and ask for the requirements and if she can take an A1 test if she has learned german on her own.
And btw I could hear your dutchiness over teamspeak, but contrary to Janz I find the accent amusing. Dutch itself sounds like a drunken kids version of mixing up english, german and a throat infection
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Hey, nobody called you a racist. And you'd get a nice Döner with juicy turk-sauce 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jul 2015 16:18 Post subject: |
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Ask the embassy what is required and what they recommend, they can probably name a few places the know and support. All they ask is the most basic things, basically the first things you learn when you're four years old. She should learn proper German in Germany, it's basically impossible otherwise.
In short, ask the embassy for help.
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jul 2015 21:20 Post subject: |
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@PumpAction
Ah so they will do a written test too?
I've linked her the sites so far and tomorrow I'm letting her give the embassy a call to see if the one in Davao is legit too. (Yeah she needs the A1 certification, even your embassy recommends the Goethe Institute. But this means she has to live in Manila for 2 months, not knowing anyone there and adding to the costs)
The au pair family really wants her, but they need her in Germany around start of October, which unfortunately isn't going to happen because of slackers everywhere. So I hope they are a little bit flexible.
Huh really? I always get compliments how I actually don't sound like one as the rest usually sounds :\
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but even that didnt happened in the last months, or maybe in the last year
