Limit kids pc time
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 12:38    Post subject: Limit kids pc time
Ive been looking for a tool that can limit the time my 14y old can spend on his pc (like from 07 am to 8 pm). The problem is, he isnt stupid and could bypass any restriction i set up in the last year... even the windows internal time control and making him a standard user didnt help. And to be honest, i dont want to restrict him being admin... its his pc and he should be able to do whatever he wants to do. Its just that school has no priority to him and i need to make sure he gets at least some sleep.

Any ideas / hints?
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shole




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 13:09    Post subject:
are you trying to turn him into a hacker? Smile
is computing to him ~ the internet?
if yes, i would get a router that i can ssh to and add a cron job that blocks access to his mac address
though that's a very strict cut off which isn't great if you're doing homework online or someshit
especially 8pm
also he could just go mobile

sounds more like an issue of not understanding what school is for

also spanking
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 13:16    Post subject:
Spanking, yes Very Happy

Well, he doesnt care too much if he´s offline or online (though i set up exactly what you said via dd-wrt). He just keeps on gaming or programming...

Its more a matter of us as parents being sick of controlling him... and being the bad guys.
Ill probably just install some time control sw with a password protection (which he can easily bypass) and tell him... this and that are the consequences of bypassing. That way i only have to check the computer once a day.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 13:26    Post subject:
Take his PC away for two weeks. Sounds like you're treating him like an adult.
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frogster




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 14:11    Post subject:
if you canot convince him with words, just move his computer in a "public" place if it is in his room.
and about controlling which hours is allowed to stay on computer there are many solution. including taking the monitor for example.
he likes to read ? buy him a kindle.
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Ragedoctor




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 15:25    Post subject:
Just attach his computer time to his average grades. The lower his grades the less he gets to use the computer. Seems like a valid solution
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 15:50    Post subject:
Well he has so much stuff... if i take away the monitor, i have to take his tv away too. And then he could just grab one of those old lcds we have from my business and tell us later that he needed them for this or that... I mean, we´re quite tight with him, but we dont have the time to control him all day long. And he knows that very well...

Consequences... taking away his pc? He may rant about it but its nothing thats convincing him to change his behaviour. When he gets his stuff back, he instantly abuses it again. And who am i to blaim him? I was exactly like him, even worse... adolescence Rolling Eyes

We even tried that "public place" thing, but that needs someone watching over him as well... then he talks like a never ending waterfall and tells us all day long what he´s is doing atm.... lol.

Anyway, thats puberty i guess. The thing is, how can i restrict his computer time with technical means? Probably not possible....
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 15:51    Post subject:
It will be fun if he starts masterbating in those public places in your house


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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 17:00    Post subject:
Well if you want to have some control of him you'll have to put time into him.
I know kids are a drag, especially in their teens Sad Razz

It is possible what you ask, but I'm thinking of running a domain and such... I bet someone else has easier/less time consuming solutions for it.

But it will still only be a thing to cover when you can't put time on him I'm afraid.


Edit:
You can do a lot with parental controls, but you said you still want him to have admin rights, and I'm guessing making it an admin account will make him be able to alter those settings. Dunno, try it out. I would, but frankly I'm too lazy to figure it out for someone else

Or you can try one of the 54654 programs you can find on google that can restrict access.


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shole




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 18:38    Post subject:
Phil2003 wrote:
He just keeps on gaming or programming...

makes me think restricting use is the worst thing you could do
because fuck grades, if they're still passing
programming is infinitely more useful from an educational standpoint
problem-solving at it's finest

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frogster




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 19:07    Post subject:
The thing is, how can i restrict his computer time with technical means? Probably not possible....

dont give him the account password, limit user rights trough group policy. log in only by yourself.
make another computer (if you have another) a domain controller, make his user a domain account. you can control it very easly.
but i think you treat this issues wrong. (if you consider it an issue). you are really acknowledge the fact that he actually does whatever he wants ignoring you completly ? you take his monitor, he gets another one. you forbid access to computer from 1-4, he ignores you. from my pov something is a bit wrong here.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Mar 2015 21:16    Post subject:
Fill his time with something else, like a kids soccer club or judo classes or something.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Mar 2015 02:13    Post subject:
Suffocate while sleeping?
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Mar 2015 23:34    Post subject:
The os drive thing is actually a good idea! Have to check on amzon.

The problem with all those technical means (domain, standard user, etc) is, that its way to easy to reset or brute force the admin password under windows (ophcrack or similar). That way he can always just create a new local account.

And what you said shole... i dont want him to feel like in jail and not being able to be creative, learn things that are important to him. And especially not make him a good citizen, following blindly the rules. We all know that theres a small percentage of people who make "their" rules, which most of us have to follow... and the world will go even more crazy then it already is before it gets better, imho. Having a free mind can certainly help.

Filling his free time... well, i tried some aikido with him. Didnt work out... then i tried to convince him of the gym... that was even worse lol. Hes a computer nerd... when he was 6, he resetted my apple id and started buying all those apps. Rolling Eyes
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