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 Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2015 23:48 Post subject: flat mate killed himself |
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selfish cunt, had to deal with police/cid/coroner etc all day
suicide is selfish.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2015 23:57 Post subject: |
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What a twat!
Burdening you so much. I swear, I don't know where this world is going to these days. 
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:04 Post subject: |
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Well my apologies then, but in any case, suicide victims rarely ask for help directly.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:07 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | | Well my apologies then, but in any case, suicide victims rarely ask for help directly. |
he showed absolutely no signs, shit i'm on prozac surely i'd pick up on if he was feeling off.
i suspect something happened this morning and he made a stupid decision.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:07 Post subject: |
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My sister swallowed a bunch of pills the other day in the middle of the night, had to hurry her ass up to the ER and look for medicine in the freeze. Hate her guts.
Shit sucks. I've lost a lot of empathy over the years too, my man.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:08 Post subject: |
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and sorry if i sound like an asshole, i'm just really really fucking angry. i can't describe how i feel actually.
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:11 Post subject: |
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the worst part is his dumb ass of a brother panicked when he found him, took the wire from his neck and moved the body out (obviously to try to cpr) but apparently it looked so awkward they had to bring in forensics/cid to rule out murder.
which means we all got questioned by asshole police.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:12 Post subject: |
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| Dazz99 wrote: | | and sorry if i sound like an asshole, i'm just really really fucking angry. i can't describe how i feel actually. |
I was too when you have to clean up someone's mess. I was just pissed off about it instead of sympathetic or worried gave her a lot of shit cuz she survived so I got to.
If I wanted to kill myself I'd just disappear somewhere isolated and bury myself.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:15 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | Dazz99 wrote: | | and sorry if i sound like an asshole, i'm just really really fucking angry. i can't describe how i feel actually. |
I was too when you have to clean up someone's mess. I was just pissed off about it instead of sympathetic or worried gave her a lot of shit cuz she survived so I got to.
If I wanted to kill myself I'd just disappear somewhere isolated and bury myself. |
it's not something i could ever entertain and i suffer from depression/anxiety. i can't entertain a decision that will destroy my family just to put myself at peace.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:22 Post subject: |
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At least he is not in hell any more. To commit suicide you have to have some serious shit going on in order to overcome your instinct to live.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:29 Post subject: |
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| Dazz99 wrote: | | and sorry if i sound like an asshole, i'm just really really fucking angry. i can't describe how i feel actually. |
You are in shock. Such an event can be traumatizing even to the most cynical of people.
But consider that people who commit suicide sometimes suffer from chemical imbalance which leads to these actions. Claiming suicide is the "coward way" is very far from the truth, it takes a lot of will to commit or attempt it. Bad will, but still. Selfish, yes, but I wouldn't say it makes a person a coward. That person was not well, he was not treated and the person died. |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:36 Post subject: |
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You would have to be extremely desperate to kill yourself, and if not done for some rational reason then I would say very mentally ill. It must be one of, if not the, hardest things for any person to do. It goes against nature and the natural instinct to survive.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:37 Post subject: |
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I agree with Leo, suicide goes against the core of human being. It's extremely hard to do.
It sucks that you got caught up in it.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 00:49 Post subject: |
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There is nothing that can be said or done in these moments really. It just..happens . Our brain is such an immense hodgepodge of suppressed madness, still completely illegible for the most part. I'm sorry about that Dazz, yours is a very genuine reaction. I would probably react the same way, since suicide is something that goes beyond my comprehension.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 01:59 Post subject: |
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| Dazz99 wrote: | | the worst part is his dumb ass of a brother panicked when he found him, took the wire from his neck and moved the body out (obviously to try to cpr) |
That asshole. What a terrible terrible move from him.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 03:11 Post subject: |
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Was he up to date with rent, bills etc?
Hope so.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 17:56 Post subject: |
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I used to think suicide was selfish, but ultimately its his/her life and there is no way people on the outside know how a person really is doing. If the person has young kids, THEN its very different. This is just my opinion...
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 21:12 Post subject: |
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comparing to the animal world, animals dont kill themselves, they might give up not resisting anymore after a while but the will to live is always there. Somewhere meds or hormones fucked something up badly in our species and took the will to live, possibly even surroundings, education or religion.
But hey we all consider it normal for people to smoke and consume alcohol ... half the planet is killing themselves , i dont give a fuck anymore. Just stay the fuck away from me with your cancerstick or ill give u a shortcut to your place of misery
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2015 21:31 Post subject: |
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Dazz you sound really off the rails, dude. Are you sure you're ok?
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2015 17:08 Post subject: |
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Yeah, it does sound like you're still in shock (even if you won't admit it). It never hurts to talk with someone. This stuff could creep up on you, in who knows how many years.
| LeoNatan wrote: |
But consider that people who commit suicide sometimes suffer from chemical imbalance which leads to these actions. Claiming suicide is the "coward way" is very far from the truth, it takes a lot of will to commit or attempt it. Bad will, but still. Selfish, yes, but I wouldn't say it makes a person a coward. That person was not well, he was not treated and the person died. |
Yup, well said.
He just took a way out, because no one could help him.
It's very sad that there's very little support and healthcare for psychological illnesses. I only began to realize how bad it is after my gf spiraled into a burnout/depression, which lasted around 3 years.
There's a current case in Belgium, in which a psyhological ill person is asking for euthanasia because he doesn't get the help he needs. He's been locked up in prison for 30 year (even though he was declared insane and deserves treatment).
Makes me really sad.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2015 17:17 Post subject: |
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Yeah doing it is defo no easy decision, and not something that should be seen as being a coward..
I've struggled myself quite often with the same situation, where I've been thinking to just end it as I don't see any point in going on anymore, with no lookout anymore for a brighter future... Yet doing the actual deed is far more difficult than you think, so many thoughts go through your head that keep you from actually doing it when you are about to do it.. Your brain just keeps pumping things in your head that make you think that it's still worth..
So for him to have given up.. was a last resort.. a last effort into getting rest i suppose.. (seeing from my own thoughts during those periods of heavy depression)
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2015 17:43 Post subject: |
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Whats more selfish?! Let a person you know suffer in silence or however because you can't imagine your life without that person, or let that person end his life and suffering? I'm going to go with the first.
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2015 17:49 Post subject: |
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Yes, for certain issues. But you'll find that a suffering person doesn't often get that much help, it's just a crisis after he first kills himself and people maybe realize how bad his situation was and think about how they should have been there for him/her more.
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