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deelix
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Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2014 21:13 Post subject: Estonia, Lativa, Lithuania	Quick Quote Quote

I don't want to speculate if its unlikely or not, but are you guys afraid of what Putin might do in the future? Hope it doesn't lead to a situation similar to the one in Georgia. (Not talking about the state 'uhmericans)

WhiteBarbarian

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Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2014 21:51 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

How situation in Georgia even remotely relates to these three countries

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deelix
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Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2014 21:55 Post subject:

WhiteBarbarian wrote:

How situation in Georgia even remotely relates to these three countries Scratch Head

It doesn't Smile

And you probably know a lot more than me. But iv heard some people from latvia beeing afraid of Russians setting up military camps like they/you guys did in Georgia.

WhiteBarbarian

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Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2014 22:07 Post subject:

Since 2001, we don't have any military bases in Georgia. We have them in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they help to stop another potential Georgian invasion.

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EU admitted that Georgia started the war

"Georgia 'started unjustified war'" --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8281990.stm

"EU report states Georgia started 2008 war with Russia" --> http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/10/geor-o02.html

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Following 10 months of investigation ordered by the European Union (EU) into the war, a report has found “unequivocal” proof that Georgia was the aggressor.

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The Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Conflict in Georgia issued a report September 30 that contains more than a thousand pages of evidence. The Council of the EU established the mission in order to verify conflicting claims of responsibility for the war. The inquiry was led by Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini, who stated that “None of the explanations given by the Georgian authorities in order to provide some form of legal justification for the attack” are valid.

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“In particular, there was no massive Russian military invasion under way, which had to be stopped by Georgian military forces,” Tagliavini added.

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“The shelling of Tskhinvali [the capital of South Ossetia, the breakaway Georgian province in which Russian troops have been stationed since the early 1990s] by the Georgian armed forces during the night of 7 to 8 August 2008 marked the beginning of the large-scale armed conflict in Georgia,” the report states.

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“There is the question of whether the force by Georgia during the night of 7/8 August was justifiable under international law. It was not…it is not possible to accept that the shelling of Tskhinvali with Grad multiple rocket launchers and heavy artillery would satisfy the requirements of having been necessary and proportionate,” the investigators found.

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- http://www.ceiig.ch/pdf/IIFFMCG_Volume_I.pdf
- http://www.ceiig.ch/pdf/IIFFMCG_Volume_II.pdf
- http://www.ceiig.ch/pdf/IIFFMCG_Volume_III.pdf

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Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2014 23:09 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

We are not afraid. We just want this whole Putins' idea of returning Russia to it's Soviet size and "glory" to be put away for good. There's no need for the Russia vs NATO (or whatever suits here best) thing to be used for propaganda. i5 6600k @ 4.3 GHz \| MSI z170 Gaming M7 \| 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury \| 850 Evo 500GB \| EVGA 1070 SC \| Seasonic X-660 \| CM Storm Stryker

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