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 Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 13:00 Post subject: |
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but not in the pussy i take it?
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 13:02 Post subject: |
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Just wanted to say /b/ is really pathetic these days.
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork  |
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 13:45 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | ScoobyDoh wrote: | So now you are trying to justify her actions for murdering animals?
Like i said, if that whore didn't want to have puppys she could have nurdered the dog.
But beacuse she didn't its her responsebility to take care of them or she could also have sold them
And anwser my question now.
Is it ok to murder animals just for the sake of it beacuse you eat meat?
Do you HAVE TO agree with that murdering animals for the sake of it is ok if you eat meat?
And also, there is no way you can justify her actions. |
No, it's not ok, but nothing that justifies you be crying over that she should be killed, because following the same logic, you should be crying over the murder of every single person that practices the institutionalized slaughter of animals! |
Ofcourse it justifys it. Animals have just as a big right to live as we humans do, if not more. Her murdering a innocent puppy justifys her death sentance. There should be no mercy for killing or torture animals like this. I don't see why see should have more right to her life then the puppys?
And like i said i do hate the meat industry. I do not in any way support it and i never will.
If people want to eat meat they should go to the local farm to make sure they get meat from healthy and not mass produced animals stuffed with shit.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 14:06 Post subject: |
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TA DA!! lol 
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 14:08 Post subject: |
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 15:11 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | We both know that if she hadn't killed those dogs, which were obviously uwanted, they would end up in a pound sooner or later!
And you know what happens in a pound?... |
They get "put to sleep", as in quickly poisoned to death versus drowning in a river. Or you know, this is at least what they do here. Not sure about Protugal or Switzerland.
Also. What if these were psychic puppies, like that octopus?  |
Oh no, here in Portugal we grab a rope, tie one end to the dog's collar and the other to the back of the car, and we just speed up until all there's nothing left 
Seriously now, those puppies should have less than 1 week, their suffering will be minimal, I'm not in any saying it is the right thing to do, I think she's a really stupid person for doing this, but it doesn't justify all the vengeful comments I see everywhere.
Yes, she is a stupid retarded girl, that's it, crying over saying that she should be punished it's as ridiculous and stupid as what she's done!
All you people think about is to punish, to make revenge, that's futile and meaningless, people who find joy in such acts, will not learn otherwise through force and violence.
Perhaps if they were properly educated and morally trained they would know different.
Violence only generates more violence.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 15:27 Post subject: |
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And again the animal hater comes to the defense.
If she didn't want to have puppys she should have nurdered the dog like i said 200 times before.
But since she DIDN'T she has NO RIGHT to murder those puppys.
If you make a misstake its YOUR responsibility to make it right.
And murdering animals just beacuse you can't be arsed to take care of your dog is NOT to take responsibility. People like that should not be allowed near animals.
Violence is the only thing that is right against murderers.
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 15:43 Post subject: |
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You can't murder an animal. You might think killing an animal is the same as killing a human being, but that doesn't change the definition of the word.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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Ofc you can. Why couldn't you? Beacuse its an animal?
To me those puppys had more right to life then that bitch have.
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:08 Post subject: |
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Because the definition of murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, with premeditated malice. It's a legal term and therefore very strictly defined.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:12 Post subject: |
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I know what the definition is. But as i stated thoe dogs had more right to life then she did.
And i care little for what laws says when something is obvious wrong or missing in it.
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:14 Post subject: |
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| ScoobyDoh wrote: | Ofc you can. Why couldn't you? Beacuse its an animal?
To me those puppys had more right to life then that bitch have. |
Yes, to you!!
But that's your emotional opinion, not a rational one, because in any rational and moral debate, no person deserves to die!
Hitler believed all Jews should be exterminated because they were responsible of many evil and immoral things trough out history, and although this is true, the solution is never the use of violence and murder!
Every rational person on this world knows that religion is the one of the biggest cancers of humanity, still we are not preaching around that they should die, even though they are responsible for much of the killing, wars and poverty in the planet!
There's a big difference between the way society handles problems and the correct way they should be handled!
Even when murdering a person, each case is a case, but in the greatest percentage of them, violence is not the answer!
Do you really think that prison changes anything for the better.
Yes, you might be ridding yourself of a murderer for 10+ years, sometimes more, sometimes less, in some cases they get out in less than 5 years for good behavior.
The thing is, prison doesn't teach you anything, quite on the contrary, it induces you to be even more violent and inhumane than you ever were, in some cases when murderers are committed by negligence or passional reasons, you send a person to prison that killed someone in an altered state, but no, instead of educating him and let him deal with his pain alone, you sent him to a place where he will lose most of his humanity, and when he comes out, he will be far more dangerous than he ever was!
Obviously in the case of sadistic murders or people with severe mental illness, there is really no solution other than incarceration or death, but those aren't the norm, those are the exception!
With sane human beings, violence is never the answer, all that revenge and punishment does is to select an evil and multiply it exponentially.
Or do you honestly think it's just coincidence that people become more violent when they are submitted to more criminal punishments?
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:29 Post subject: |
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Them Jooooooooz stole Germany's moniez! 
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:33 Post subject: |
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You talk alot of bullshit you know that?
"no person deserves to die!"
I think i speak for many of us when i say that pedophiles, rapists and such should all be hanged.
To say that no1 deserves to die is just blind bullshit, nothing else.
"Hitler bla bla bla"
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Getting kinda tierd with the same old same old. Is nazis the only evil in your book? What about the mass murderes commited by commies? But tbh, i dont really care about that right now since this it not a thread for that.
Its a big diffrence between religion and beliving to actually go and blow yourself up.
Even you with your "wannabe intellectual" speach should know that.
You talk like there is some ultimate anwser to everything. Or some ultimate solution. There isn't.
A human loses his right to live when he rapes a woman or child. When he murder another man.
You have right to life as long as you dont destroy other humans or animals lifes. If you do you forfeit your own. You, just beacuse you are human dosn't stand above anything. There is no helping a person who has forfieted his right to live.
Your life as a human is made by the decisions you make. And if you chose to take another mans life, or rape a child you chose at the same time to give up your life.
There is no rights to people like that. Only death.
So stop living in your bubble and act like some fucking hippie. Enter real life and open your eyes.
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 16:55 Post subject: |
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| ScoobyDoh wrote: |
You talk like there is some ultimate anwser to everything. Or some ultimate solution. There isn't.
A human loses his right to live when he rapes a woman or child. When he murder another man. |
Does not compute!
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 17:01 Post subject: |
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| ScoobyDoh wrote: |
You talk like there is some ultimate anwser to everything. Or some ultimate solution. There isn't.
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Go think about that statement and when you're mature enough to understand how it fails completely, come back.
You can fix a problem of many different ways, but the ultimate logical solution for any given problem is the simplest one, when you end up adding degrees and sub degrees of complexity to your original solution, it means that you are nothing following the most logical path, when your solutions create more problems than the original problem ever was, you are clearly on the wrong path!
This is true in mathematics, physics and in the whole of reality, to which we are part of!
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 17:06 Post subject: |
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| ScoobyDoh wrote: |
You have right to life as long as you dont destroy other humans or animals lifes. If you do you forfeit your own. You, just beacuse you are human dosn't stand above anything. There is no helping a person who has forfieted his right to live.
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Where do you draw the line? Based on the size of the animal? Or are all animals' lives sacred?
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 17:34 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | ScoobyDoh wrote: |
You talk like there is some ultimate anwser to everything. Or some ultimate solution. There isn't.
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Go think about that statement and when you're mature enough to understand how it fails completely, come back.
You can fix a problem of many different ways, but the ultimate logical solution for any given problem is the simplest one, when you end up adding degrees and sub degrees of complexity to your original solution, it means that you are nothing following the most logical path, when your solutions create more problems than the original problem ever was, you are clearly on the wrong path!
This is true in mathematics, physics and in the whole of reality, to which we are part of! |
You fail trying to make this to something more.
As a human you have a choice on how to live you life and what actions to take.
If we would always go for the simplest solution the world sure would be a fucked up place.
But maybe letting rapist and murderers run free would be best?
Or what do you say Mr.Wannabe Intellectual?
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 17:57 Post subject: |
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| ScoobyDoh wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | | ScoobyDoh wrote: |
You talk like there is some ultimate anwser to everything. Or some ultimate solution. There isn't.
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Go think about that statement and when you're mature enough to understand how it fails completely, come back.
You can fix a problem of many different ways, but the ultimate logical solution for any given problem is the simplest one, when you end up adding degrees and sub degrees of complexity to your original solution, it means that you are nothing following the most logical path, when your solutions create more problems than the original problem ever was, you are clearly on the wrong path!
This is true in mathematics, physics and in the whole of reality, to which we are part of! |
You fail trying to make this to something more.
As a human you have a choice on how to live you life and what actions to take.
If we would always go for the simplest solution the world sure would be a fucked up place.
But maybe letting rapist and murderers run free would be best?
Or what do you say Mr.Wannabe Intellectual? |
Again, you makes leap of argumentation without any logic to back it up!
I have a choice to be moral, and one of the most fundamental rules of morality is that you never use force or violence towards other people and also that your personal freedom is only limited by the violation of the freedom of other people!
Which means that murdering an animal, as stupid as it might be, it's not violating the freedom of other people, because animals aren't people, we feed on them!
To answer your other question about rapists and pedophiles, there's actually a simple solution other than aggressive action and building a whole system based on incarceration of individuals!
These people are ill, they cannot control their sex drive, therefore the only rational and humane thing to do is to chemically castrate this individuals, I do not even need to argue here, all you need to do is search for statistics of rapists that are incarcerated and rapists who are castrated, most of the ones that are incarcerated will do it again as soon as their released with a much higher frequency that they ever did!
The chemically castrated ones become docile and harmful, I have not heard of one single case of a castrated person which commits rape or acts of pedophilia again!
As for murderers, most murderers walk free sooner or later, specially here on Europe where most countries have maximum penalties set on 20 - 25 years, and this is only for the most violent offenders, most murderers are freed within less than 10 years!
Curiously enough, it is the U.S. that has the greatest number of murderers in the whole planet, with it's harsh laws, death sentence, etc, it is the U.S. that has the most murders!
Somethings might appear counter-intuitive, but they are true nonetheless, to make revenge (which is what the state does to some factions of people) is irrational and immoral and causes more problems than the ones it tries desperately to solve!
Truth and logic are absolute, they are not subject to personal interpretation!
To say that violence only generates more violence is true in any circumstance and context, it is an absolute truth, doesn't matter what's your personal opinion about punishing people for social revenge, the truth is there, it is immutable and unchangeable!
So to comment on your whole statement, it isn't me who needs to make a choice, it is you and people like you who need to choose if to generate more violence for the sake of your emotional need to revenge is really solving anything or merely causing the exponential growth of violence and inhumanity in the world!
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 18:23 Post subject: |
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It kinda reminds me on the animated gif about the little chickens.
Empty again 
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 18:24 Post subject: |
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Fuck you dorphin and cooow!!!!!
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 18:41 Post subject: |
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Again obviously curiously. Therefore such as apparently. For fundamental statistic cannot. Obviously interpretation exponentially.
Objection!
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 18:43 Post subject: |
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| MirkoOdora wrote: | Again obviously curiously. Therefore such as apparently. For fundamental statistic cannot. Obviously interpretation exponentially.
Objection! |
Your point is?
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010 19:03 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | MirkoOdora wrote: | Again obviously curiously. Therefore such as apparently. For fundamental statistic cannot. Obviously interpretation exponentially.
Objection! |
Your point is? |
u use biG worDz. u smrtipants!
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