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 Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2016 22:01 Post subject: |
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| MateoTTR wrote: | | Any example of games that are not time-consuming? |
Watch Dogs 2
It didn't consume any of my time 
| chiv wrote: | | don't quote me on that |
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2016 22:35 Post subject: |
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@MateoTTR
By "time-consuming" I merely meant that you spend a lot of time doing practically nothing, just watching the guards routes,calculating the best approach, quick loading numerous times after getting killed, trying another way, getting killed again, watching the guards etc etc
"Time-consuming" as in you spend lots of time but progress is pretty slow whereas most other games even party based CRPGs have a more even pacing when it comes to gameplay.
Thief missions took sometimes 2 hours to complete but it seemed fine there. But Here.. I got 3 (so far) characters to control in real-time with lots of enemies around.
I remember quitting Thief only to go to sleep or do some other non-gaming stuff but here I quit after mission 4, then after mission 5. it just left me exhausted.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2016 22:43 Post subject: |
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@The_Zeel
...coz there is nothing in between these two extremes? . 
PS Pause would be nice
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2016 23:57 Post subject: |
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Well I guess I get your point.
I rarely have play sessions lasting more than 1 hour, so no time to get bored/exhausted.
Progression is rather slow, that's intended you are supposed to spend time planning your moves.
3 slots for quicksaving is excellent, although I wish the loading and saving would be faster.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 00:04 Post subject: |
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For me it's the beauty of it. It's quite refreshing to find a stealth game where the AI isn't completely blind. The player has to think beforehand instead of killing folks and rely on nextgen tricks such as last known positions, on/off detection meters and insta-forget as soon as you escape from the cone.
The fact that the game freely allows F5ing actually makes it even too comfortable in my opinion  
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 09:14 Post subject: |
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@flipp | Quote: | | so often I'm forgetting to save, even after beating difficult situations *sigh* |
Have you disabled "you saved X minutes ago" reminder?
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 11:28 Post subject: |
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Does anyone know how to use Kuma to lure enemies? The game says he'll howl to draw them near, but whenever I send him out he just sits there doing nothing.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 11:38 Post subject: |
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@randir14
Press T while having Takumo selected. Hold D to call Kuma back.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 11:55 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | @randir14
Press T while having Takumo selected. Hold D to call Kuma back. |
Thanks
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 17:15 Post subject: |
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Its a great game, im just replaying on hardcore and getting all badges and its soo rewarding redoing all the old levels with your new skills from playing the game and being soo much better.
Not all badges/achievements can be done in one playthrough though, most levels take 3-4 playthroughs.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 18:06 Post subject: |
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@Auran13 | Quote: | | im just replaying on hardcore |
You've already finished it ? How much time did it take you to get to the end?
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2016 20:57 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | @Auran13 | Quote: | | im just replaying on hardcore |
You've already finished it ? How much time did it take you to get to the end? |
I think there were 13 or 14 levels, most of the mid to later ones took me about 2hours each on first playthrough
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2016 20:31 Post subject: |
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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn, Being a huge fan of Desperados, this game is giving me a raging boner.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 18:13 Post subject: |
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@flipp
It's kinda ridiculous though... I mean going after sake while being shot at. I think it should be patched.
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sanchin
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 18:46 Post subject: |
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Well, I found a solution to the "problem" of enemies waking up after being knocked down - thanks to my curiosity and "what if" mentality:
 Spoiler: | just throw them on a roof |
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 20:06 Post subject: |
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Another solution :
KILL' EM ALL!
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 21:25 Post subject: |
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Damn, I'm still "stuck" on the 3rd level... I haven't played such a game in a while, and I feel awfully rusty. And am also bloody tired by the time I get to play a bit in the evenings. I should give the game a proper go when I'm more mentally fresh, I suppose.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2017 18:22 Post subject: |
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| deadpoetic wrote: | Another solution :
KILL' EM ALL! |
Or | Spoiler: | hide them inside houses, they won't wake up |
Reached mission 8 now, its getting close to Commandos difficulty at this pont, takes hours to finish a mission properly. Awesome game, I hope others follow and the genre can be reborn again.
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2017 18:23 Post subject: |
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@The_Zeel
Good.
How many missions are there in total?
// Nvm, according to Aurans post earlier its 13/14?
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2017 18:26 Post subject: |
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13 missions, it'll take me around 30 hours total.
The first few missions took me around an hour each, then 2 hours, and the last few so far around 3 hours each. I do go for a clean playthrough without sounding the alarm though, killing enemies but only knocking out civilians.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2017 11:01 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | 13 missions, it'll take me around 30 hours total.
The first few missions took me around an hour each, then 2 hours, and the last few so far around 3 hours each. I do go for a clean playthrough without sounding the alarm though, killing enemies but only knocking out civilians. |
Sounds like me, funnily enough playing through again on hardcore doing all achievements that weren't mutually exclusive i smashed through it.
shows a good game/difficulty curve where learning the systems actually makes you a better player, you feel like you grew as a player. too many games these days just add more HP/damage and call it hard.
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sanchin
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2017 12:49 Post subject: |
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Well, I'm playing on hardcore doing anything I can not to kill OR knock out anyone (apart from the targets). And from what I saw already in ~5 missions - sometimes it's impossible.
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