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Godlikez*
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 Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 19:08 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Why do people act as if the law doesn't exist when it comes to fights? |
People are sociopathic idiots?
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Grees
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 00:29 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Grees wrote: | | doesn't matter how you win because if you loose, well, nobody cares about the loser. |
Yes it does, you end up seriously damaging his eyes or killing him and you'll be in prison for a fair amount of time.
Why do people act as if the law doesn't exist when it comes to fights? |
I never said you have to kill him to win, just win, apply the appropriate force to come out on top, doesn't matter how since if the guy is just as determined to win and don't back down after you aimed for his eyes and balls and still comes at you then it would be self defense.
And the law means little the moment you enter the fight, if you want to respect the law, walk away.
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fraich3
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 00:52 Post subject: |
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Deelix if you think this guy is still after you I would carry sometime that won't do lasting damage.
When I had to take the skytrain home at night I used to carry a big honking can of Bear spray It shoots pretty far you just can't shoot it with a heavy wind blowing at you.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 00:58 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: | I don't see how loosing a fight is loosing your pride? I feel proud whenever I manage to go the peaceful way, and fuck there's no respect in kicking someones ass. How can that be respect and pride?
Syco, you gotta live in the stoneage or something if the women goes to the ones that kicks most ass. People I hang around with values personality a lot more than muscles, same for most girls I know.
Just think about it, who would you rather want? The one that kicks most ass or the one that cares about for real and have some fucking intelligence and a nice personality instead of a violent one?
| Quote: | | Its a test of intelligence, stamina, strength, dexerity, speed, coordination and honour. |
Intelligence? I don't think so, more about who's the most stupid fuck around. The others sure, except honor as I see no honor in kicking someones ass.
Still if I would see some cockfag go wild on any of my nearest friends, family or similar you never know what might happen. |
Fighting requires alot of intelligence...well, to be a good figher anyway.
If you say otherwise, you've never been in a serious fight. Seriously, fighting draws on alot of instinctive skill.
And yeah, its the truth, women like to know they are protected. They dont want a pansy who cant defend them.
Obviously if your a psycho its not cool. But they want to know they are protected.
@AM
Alot of fights are still honest man. Granted, alot of shit does go down the way you suggest. Only ferries use knives and guns...I think its wrong and people should stick to traditional ways - fists...or sticks/bats. |
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 01:14 Post subject: |
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I think there are a lot of ferries in this world then. Guns are the way of the future. People don't like to get their hands dirty anymore. You can be the best fighter in the world but unless you are wearing bullet proof clothing you can't match a gun.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 02:25 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: |
Fighting requires alot of intelligence...well, to be a good figher anyway.
If you say otherwise, you've never been in a serious fight. Seriously, fighting draws on alot of instinctive skill.
And yeah, its the truth, women like to know they are protected. They dont want a pansy who cant defend them.
Obviously if your a psycho its not cool. But they want to know they are protected.
@AM
Alot of fights are still honest man. Granted, alot of shit does go down the way you suggest. Only ferries use knives and guns...I think its wrong and people should stick to traditional ways - fists...or sticks/bats. |
Instinctive yes.. Intelligence, no. Instincts are just instincts nothing else, if you act on instinct you don't think about it you just do it. So it comes down too who does the right thing on instinct...
And I'll be damned if a woman wouldn't appreciate more if I can stay out of a fight and be with her instead of getting into some dumbass fight about... Well nothing. And if she leaves you for someone going into a fight to win her over, well like she never liked you then. Looks more like a trophy kind of woman to me.
Obviously your world is not the same as mine. Still you can't defend fights as they are today, kicking people while they are on the ground, knifes, several people on one poor bastard.. How is that fighting? I've seen a few people fight and I've rarely seen an honest one not to mention when they bring in friends to kick someones ass.
I stand for what I think and I will never see fighting as a solution to ANYTHING.
Actually, having to use brute force seem like a solid proof of lacking intellect IMO. If you can't verbally counter your offender beat him. hmm real smart.
Maybe it all comes down to how you've grown up? I've grown up in a stable family, never had to get in a fight to gain respect or get respect from someone or for something. I have been raised with that violence solves nothing and I believe in that with all of my heart.
BUT even if I am against violence I would not sit idle if lets say my girlfriend was about to be raped ,sister, mom or if I saw someone that I didn't know. In that case I wouild do whatever I could to stop it. But then I do it for a cause, helping someone thats in danger not in order just to fight or get "respect" or "pride".
For me respect, honor, pride and whatever you may call it is gained by helping people feel better and getting out of trouble. Not to show who has the biggest balls or can knock someone out fast... Just not my view of life simply.
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Spun[k]
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 03:42 Post subject: |
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Last weekend when me and my mates where going home from the pub we met up with a group of people fighting, or like one guy against 5-7 others. He was hard!
They fucking attacked him like a group of hyenas (We dident see how It started) and they got him down to the ground, and they where hitting and kicking him alot when he was down, some kicks to the head to!(And hes fugly fucking girlfriend Is jumping around and trying to stop it, screaming like hell)
But still, this guy gets up, and they all run away like a bunch of pussys, then they stand like 10 meters from eachothers screaming and shit.. then some other motherfucker jumps In to this brawl.. he seems to wanna take this guy on alone, though then we hear the cops coming, and the group leaves.
We where already far away when the cops arrived, dident see more.
Fair fight? hah, no fucking way. Did he deserve it?, no fucking idea! Id still give him the "win" In that fight.
Sig too big.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 04:07 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: |
Instinctive yes.. Intelligence, no. Instincts are just instincts nothing else, if you act on instinct you don't think about it you just do it. So it comes down too who does the right thing on instinct...
And I'll be damned if a woman wouldn't appreciate more if I can stay out of a fight and be with her instead of getting into some dumbass fight about... Well nothing. And if she leaves you for someone going into a fight to win her over, well like she never liked you then. Looks more like a trophy kind of woman to me.
Obviously your world is not the same as mine. Still you can't defend fights as they are today, kicking people while they are on the ground, knifes, several people on one poor bastard.. How is that fighting? I've seen a few people fight and I've rarely seen an honest one not to mention when they bring in friends to kick someones ass.
I stand for what I think and I will never see fighting as a solution to ANYTHING.
Actually, having to use brute force seem like a solid proof of lacking intellect IMO. If you can't verbally counter your offender beat him. hmm real smart.
Maybe it all comes down to how you've grown up? I've grown up in a stable family, never had to get in a fight to gain respect or get respect from someone or for something. I have been raised with that violence solves nothing and I believe in that with all of my heart.
BUT even if I am against violence I would not sit idle if lets say my girlfriend was about to be raped ,sister, mom or if I saw someone that I didn't know. In that case I wouild do whatever I could to stop it. But then I do it for a cause, helping someone thats in danger not in order just to fight or get "respect" or "pride".
For me respect, honor, pride and whatever you may call it is gained by helping people feel better and getting out of trouble. Not to show who has the biggest balls or can knock someone out fast... Just not my view of life simply. |
I don’t think syco was talking about beating on people for fun or to impress some dumb girl. I think just meant he would not sit by if his family/friends were in trouble.
And some words or advice in helping women you don’t know. Watch it. They turn on you or you. It’s probably their ex and they will just stay with him anyway. If anything call the police and let them handle it. People trying to be do gooders and breaking up fights they just get caught in the cross fire.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 10:21 Post subject: |
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Damn, sorry to hear that deelix
I have never been in a real fight (someone starts with attacking physically) because my arms look very muscular (so i have been told) and i have great mates.
If someone would hit me i would go berserk. not because he hit me and for my pride i have to defend myself but because i think hes going to break my glasses. I get angry just thinking about walking around without beeing able to see shit. Even people acting though and starting like, im going break them or im gonna put them in your ass  i start flipping
Only fights i have been in were some stupid kids calling me names and i got sick of it and smacked them to the ground. And i dont even do that after the first word, my anger keeps building up and when its released theres nothing more to stop it.
Worst thing i did was keep hitting someones head against the wall so he had to go to the hospital and had a (dont know in english : hersenschudding) , he had a light brainthingie
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 10:46 Post subject: |
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The thing with this guy is... he don't want to fight. He just beat up people, take you when you aint watching. Drag you out - beat you up.
And there was this guy who made a song about him, and spread it on the internet.
Damn that was funny. This fat guy said he would kill this rapper dude for this. But of course i knew he didn't. The rest of the "gang" <---LOL) thought that was just lame. So i don't think anything happens. Because he live in "Sandefjord" and if he show up in "Tønsberg" he's fucking dead.. so many people want to take him.
So...
1. Shoot him, move to mexico.
2. People talk thats an awesome thing. So i ask some friends, who ask some other friends, and then we got a biiiig group. My mom even agreed. But just to scare the shit out of him. Have like 7 cars outside his house all with weapons. That would be cool. And if they can't find me in that group they can't take me for it. And there are lots of people who hate him anyway.
3. Police - Klageråd... don't think it will work tho. Few people get compensation.
4. Mom wanted to buy me an pepperspray box, or what its called. Because when i was wearing knife the other day, mom said i shouldn't because if there is a fight, and im involved and people can prove i got weapon, im the one with the problems. Even all the shit he have done to me.
Defense is legal in USA, not in Norway
There was a friend of my grandfather who had thiefs on his farm. He just wanted to scare them away; so he shot (not at them), but one of the projectiles hit one of the thiefs in the leg. And my grandfathers friend got to pay them compensation for this.
This would never happend in USA.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 12:06 Post subject: |
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Im telling you: revenge is fucking sweet. and it doesnt happen immediatly , let him get off guard. If i were you, i would still remember what he did if i was 20 years older and pay him a visit, just make his life a living hell. Throw bricks in his windows, slash the car tires (make sure he doesnt see tho)
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 18:56 Post subject: |
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Self-Defense is legal in many countries, you just have to prove that you were'nt carrying a weapon with malicious intent, and of course that the force you use is appropriate.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 19:36 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: |
And to me, its a question of character. Violence can solve things if used correctly. |
These two senteneces cannot go together. It does not make any sense to me at all.
I cant think of any "correct" use of violence. And if it is a question of character i dont thik you can resort to violence.
| SycoShaman wrote: |
Still, I wont lie, I am kinda biased. I like to fight. Its a test of intelligence, stamina, strength, dexerity, speed, coordination and honour.
Fighting is one of the truest and unbiased things around. You either hit or get hit. Win or lose...no middle ground and its up to you what side you end up on. |
Well i can agree on this one, but only if that fight you are talking of is a fair one. That means mano a mano. Not some stupid group fights.
All in all i think, given this situation, deelix acted perfectly right. Taking hits, going down fast, playing it safe. This is, like Syco said a much more smarter (and in my opinion more mature in terms of character) way of dealing with this situation.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 21:42 Post subject: |
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I totally agree with D_A_Kuja. I also react the same way as him. Maybe it's because we're from the same cultural background.
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 21:59 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | I don't regret anything. A friend just called; he found the fat bastard ouside the same gas station he beat me up, scared as hell because he had get a call from the police. Just that makes me happy.. i have a dayyum good feeling right now 
Suffer more  |
Its all good if youre happy with the outcome in the end and have peace of mind.
Some people, like me, can never shake off the feeling of being beaten up,
if you can put that behind you and look at the big picture, then its all cool  |
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 22:05 Post subject: |
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Hehe, i know.
And i know exactly what you mean. I was like that before too.
But this guy is like... damn, fuck it. he's insane. He has been beating up teachers and stuff.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2006 22:17 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | Hehe, i know.
And i know exactly what you mean. I was like that before too.
But this guy is like... damn, fuck it. he's insane. He has been beating up teachers and stuff. |
STAB HIM ALREADY. GET A SCREW DRIVER AND FUCKING STAB HIM IN THE LEG. HE WILL NEVER ATTACK AGAIN.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:00 Post subject: |
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Get a knife (more stylish than a screw-driver) and stab that fucking bastard.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:18 Post subject: |
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If he's been beating up teachers why is he not in prison?
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:25 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | If he's been beating up teachers why is he not in prison? |
Teachers are scared of him?
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:30 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | If he's been beating up teachers why is he not in prison? |
Teachers are scared of him? |
For the most part teachers can't really do anything. Expell them for a few days, or send them of to a new school.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:34 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | If he's been beating up teachers why is he not in prison? |
Teachers are scared of him? |
For the most part teachers can't really do anything. Expell them for a few days, or send them of to a new school. |
It's not about whether they're teachers or not. He's physically assaulted more then one adult in an environment where I would assume there were many witnesses. Why is he not in prison? It's not like he's some 12 year old having a fit, he's 17 ffs.
If my children went to school with some nazi prick who assaulted the teachers there I would complain as to why he wasn't expelled already.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2006 00:57 Post subject: |
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Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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. I don't win all my fights. No one does. But I never back down from one when someone provokes me. I can take care of myself.
