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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Dec 2010 01:33    Post subject:
ok installed it, started playing it and after i fall trough that wood at the begining, i cant move lol...bug or what to do Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Dec 2010 01:45    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
ok installed it, started playing it and after i fall trough that wood at the begining, i cant move lol...bug or what to do Cool Face


Use the torch Very Happy
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 11:37    Post subject:
Anyone know any cheat or something to add learning points? I remember that I played some days ago and I had over 30 and I spent some into crafting to let me craft some weapons. Now I wanted to see something in the craft list and guess what, I see that I don't have any crafting points, just the default ones. And yes, the learning points are gone.

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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 11:55    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
Anyone know any cheat or something to add learning points? I remember that I played some days ago and I had over 30 and I spent some into crafting to let me craft some weapons. Now I wanted to see something in the craft list and guess what, I see that I don't have any crafting points, just the default ones. And yes, the learning points are gone.

Try artmoney or cheat engine.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 19:32    Post subject:
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friketje




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 21:51    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
*bump* Decided to reinstall this gem. Have applied a few mods but there's one thing I just can't seem to fix... I've forgotten how to do it properly.

I'm trying to up the view distance of grass to a much higher value so I practically never see areas not having spawned grass, I used oblivion.ini in the documents folder, put it to read only after applying some tweaks, doesn't change much (it does up it a bit but to a certain point, no where near the amount I want). To put it simply, I want to stand in the abbot in the beginning of nehrim, look over the whole lake (also in the beginning) and see grass on the other side...

Instead it looks like this:

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I've done the following changes:
uGridsToLoad=51
fGrassStartFadeDistance=40000.0000
fGrassEndDistance=50000.0000

None of them change anything at this point. It seems I've come upon some limit or some such... I also wanted the game to render stuff further out in the distance, but as you guys can see in the pic, it doesn't up to some point.

At this point I'm even starting to doubt anything's actually changed. lol And yes, qarls texture pack will be installed soon. Just want to fix the basics before hand.

Here's my whole oblivion.ini from the documents folder:
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Also forgot it, but I googled "oblvion purple gras" at the time, it is a known oblivion bug. it was something with height btw.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 21:59    Post subject:
What are your system specs Yondaime?
The mod ran like a paralytic Werelds on my system back then, had to turn the LOD off to get some decent performance. Sad

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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jun 2011 05:56    Post subject:
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jun 2011 10:36    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
Core i7 2600k overclocked to 4.6 ghz, AMD Radeon 6970, 6 gb vengeance ram.


Thought that your system was a bit more "down to earth" and that the mod's performance somehow got better after a few updates.

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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jun 2011 16:01    Post subject:
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jun 2011 17:32    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
Hehe, sorry mate. But there is one thing you can do which did make a huge difference for me, install the low poly grass mod:
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5434

It's really amazingly nice! It does look a TAD worse BUT you gain so much more performance, I gained 30 or so fps. And besides, it won't look much different unless you go up to the grass and look straight at it. Try it mate! Dont' use the low low poly one though, that one isn't worth it.
Thanks but I tried it back then and gained... 5 fps or something. Laughing

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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jun 2011 17:42    Post subject:
Right I thought so when we talked, Oblivion.ini is what you mention in that quote, Nehrim.ini is what Nehrim uses and generates via it's custom launcher. Smile
(Unless they changed it, otherwise it should be fully separate from Oblivion.)

(If I remember correctly at all here.)
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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 05:53    Post subject:
Gonna give this another playthrough before Skyrim comes out.....hopefully I'll have enough time to beat it.

Any good recommendations for mods to use in conjunction other than:

-low poly grass
-dark ui

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 06:10    Post subject:
Is Nehrim better than Oblivion?

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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 06:14    Post subject:
...........if the newest oblivion patch doesn't require a disk, then why is Nehrim asking for one....
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 07:19    Post subject:
It uses copy protection, patch removes SecuROM part but still leaves a disc check. Smile
(As per Morrowind but there Safedisc had to go as it caused severe stuttering.)
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2011 15:56    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Is Nehrim better than Oblivion?


It's other game, with oblivion graphics/mechanics.
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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jun 2011 16:14    Post subject:
allllllllllllrighty.....

I need some good mods for this. I've got Nehrim.esp, Oblivion.esp, low poly grass.esp, dark UI.esp

anything else worth trying?
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jun 2011 17:31    Post subject:
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Jul 2011 19:08    Post subject:
Meh, Nehrim still runs like ass, slightly better performance now than with a 4890 but it still runs terribly (<30fps is terrible for me, I'm an fps whore what can I say Very Happy).
Tried the Stutter Remover, 3GB patch and low poly grass put the culprit seems to be elsewhere:

From the Bethsoft forums:
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I took a look at this in the CS to determine why it lags to high heaven. Theres really nothing but bad news here. My findings:

The biggest reason I can spot is Nehrim's use of meshes. On one hand, their creative usage of vanilla meshes and high detail makes Nehrim great. On the other, its horribly inefficient and causes the terrible slowdown that has been mentioned. The cells of Shadow Song Mine (the start dungeon) have 2,500* references each, which adds up to over 500,000 polygons(!!!) per cell. Whats worse is that about half these polygons (and therefore a lot of the lag) could be cut with very simple Nifskope edits. For example, anytime you see a rope in the mine it is attached to an animated high polygon zombie somewhere beyond the roof. One cell had something like 10 zombies, each with animation, collision, and plenty of polygons, each of which the player will never see. Likewise, all the pathways and structures are built of individual planks, each with their own collision and each of which adds to the reference count. Had these been assembled in a modeling program, thousands of polygons worth of collision could have been cut. Likewise, collision could also have been removed from the rocks in the ceiling and other inaccessible areas (especially since the start area is entirely corded off by collision walls - far, unreachable areas of the cave could just as well been a matte painting and no one would know better). Their love for disembodied lightbulb lighting with small radii probably doesn't help either (there are many places where several bulbs are placed though one could have sufficed), especially when you add the heavy AI into the mix.

Basically, this means that efficiently getting rid of lag means re-building large chunks of the gameworld :/

Oddly enough, the exteriors I briefly checked out were reasonable in reference count. My guess is that the view distance is at fault here, perhaps combined with the altered tree animations.

In a related issues, I suspect that the esm could use cleaning since I encountered several errors when loading. It also includes references to Arkwend (their Morrowind TC) and Cube (their FO3 mod), removing which could cut a bit off the file size.
Guess I'll try it when I get a new system. Sad

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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Jul 2011 19:14    Post subject:
Yeah it's normal Toni, with my current (ooold) rig I barely reached the 25 fps average even with the details on medium/distant landscape disabled/+ all the tweaks and "performance" mods..meh Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Jul 2011 19:17    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Yeah it's normal Toni, with my current (ooold) rig I barely reached the 25 fps average even with the details on medium/distant landscape disabled/+ all the tweaks and "performance" mods..meh Razz
Let's just hope that the Andoran: Prologue guys optimize their shit... or that I win the lottery and splash some money on an uber rig.

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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Jul 2011 19:19    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Yeah it's normal Toni, with my current (ooold) rig I barely reached the 25 fps average even with the details on medium/distant landscape disabled/+ all the tweaks and "performance" mods..meh Razz
Let's just hope that the Andoran: Prologue guys optimize their shit... or that I win the lottery and splash some money on an uber rig.

Hmm Russian developers don't like optimization very much Laughing I'd go for the lottery Very Happy
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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 07:38    Post subject:
Was playing this last night, killed a guy. Turned the next corner in the dungeon and another enemy saw me, ran over to the dead enemy and took his weapon to use against me as he was unarmed.

I don't recall that happening in Oblivion......but could be wrong.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 10:18    Post subject:
It was present in Oblivion afaik.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 14:55    Post subject:
It was but mostly coded so that you had to disarm a enemy first before it would try and acquire a different weapon (better than current weapon and depending on the skills/attributes it have.) to attack the player with.

(The normal is that they just go and pick up their disarmed weapon again.)
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De_TURK




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 15:11    Post subject:
The mod was fantastic, the story and the scenery really has a powerful hold on the human imagination. The diversity of the environment... Was mindblowing, especialy for a fanmade mod...

Ze Germans sure can built mods.
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Mussolinka
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 15:51    Post subject:
Too bad the performance is so shite, first time I entered the northern capital (E-something) I was peaking at 15 fps Laughing

There is one thing they could have added, which would make the game so much better - a modular damage system. It shouldn't be hard considering fallout has it.

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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2011 20:46    Post subject:
The capital is the only place that I had a performance hit, but I feel it is mainly due to a ton of custom architecture, textures and sounds all in one place.
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