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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 17:10    Post subject:
Got deja vu when was looking EK logo. Etnies anyone?

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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 04:50    Post subject:
@timechange

The case is an outdated concept, try something more eclectic...like this:

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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 08:03    Post subject:
Hmm, that setup might also keep your room at a nice temperature as well. Fashionable and fuctional at the same time. Very Happy
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timechange01
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 09:56    Post subject:
Looks pretty cool but not my style Cool Face

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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 11:19    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
@timechange

The case is an outdated concept, try something more eclectic...like this:

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Wtf, nailing the computer components to the wall? Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 11:35    Post subject:
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 14:40    Post subject:
Nice, like that... Id nail my shit to a fridge wall without the plastic flashing on the fridge, big ass fan infront bolted over top drawing the cold through the fridge wall onto the mounting plate of the components... Wonder how much temp drop that would give..
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Perry Rhodan




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 15:10    Post subject:
hm i'd be worried about that PCIe extension introducing lag because of the longer datalines. Also it's probably not exactly a quiet setup Smile
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 15:47    Post subject:
Perry Rhodan wrote:
hm i'd be worried about that PCIe extension introducing lag because of the longer datalines. Also it's probably not exactly a quiet setup Smile


Think I went through this before about the Pci conenction, just make it a hard tracked connection I dont see any latency issues with moving the card away a bit from the pci slot, its either passing data direct or its not, there is no other hardware anyway between the two to cause any issues I would of thought...
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Perry Rhodan




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 18:27    Post subject:
Well i remember way back when mobos had something called "pipelined burst chache" and the specs from Intel said the datalines on the motherboard from the cache ram to the cpu socket couldn't be longer than 110mm (i think) otherwise it would screw up the cache ram timings. Now if you take the bus frequencies of a modern day graphicscard into account, a few nanoseconds will make a difference, so i don't think a extension like that is a good idea for a gaming card.
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TSR69
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 18:49    Post subject:
Speed of the signal in copper wire is approximately 2/3 the speed of light, I assume the wire is circa 15 cm long so extra latency is ≈ 7,5 nanoseconds. Since the GPU has its own memory I doubt it is a serious problem.

Edit: Somone posted this one in the "Hardware Zone" some time ago:
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dingo_d
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 19:06    Post subject:
Hmmm I can see this used in some smaller lab for computing purposes...


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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 19:26    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
Speed of the signal in copper wire is approximately 2/3 the speed of light, I assume the wire is circa 15 cm long so extra latency is ≈ 7,5 nanoseconds. Since the GPU has its own memory I doubt it is a serious problem.

Edit: Somone posted this one in the "Hardware Zone" some time ago:


Hmm, that looks very complicated. I guess I'll settle for this



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fisk




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 19:28    Post subject:
Yep...

Macintosh, simple computers for simple people.


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timechange01
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 02:59    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
wait for new water cooling setup, not all lost yet Laughing


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I used a bit of clear tubing because I hate not being able to see whether the water is getting pumped or not. I need to see the pumping! Cool Face



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TSR69
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 09:40    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Hmmm I can see this used in some smaller lab for computing purposes...

Yes it was said it is a folding farm Very Happy
Btw made a calculation error, extra latency is ≈ 0,75 nanoseconds Embarassed
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 23:25    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
Yep...

Macintosh, simple computers for simple people.


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swingman




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 17:06    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
I used a bit of clear tubing because I hate not being able to see whether the water is getting pumped or not. I need to see the pumping! Cool Face


Why didn't you get a flowmeter? Nice job with the installation but you're wrong about Swiftech though. In any case, the temps must be an improvement over that H50 crap.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 20:25    Post subject:
You'd be surprised how crap the H50 isn't. For the price it does an amazing job.


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swingman




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 21:11    Post subject:
And you'd be surprised at how many air coolers there are that are as good or better than the H50. The biggest problem I would have with the H50 or any other pre-sealed kit is the inability to mount the rad outside. Unless you're willing to go all Wolverine on your computer's ass like tc did. Very Happy
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timechange01
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 22:16    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
inability to mount the rad outside. Unless you're willing to go all Wolverine on your computer's ass like tc did. Very Happy


Lol I was just about to say do what I did Cool Face

Overall I liked the H50. I used it for almost a year and I was able to OC a phenom965 to 4.02Ghz fully stable which is a pretty nice OC in my opinion. I was also able to OC my i7 930 to 4.0Ghz. But now its time to go past 4.0 Very Happy



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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 22:46    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
swingman wrote:
inability to mount the rad outside. Unless you're willing to go all Wolverine on your computer's ass like tc did. Very Happy


Lol I was just about to say do what I did Cool Face

Overall I liked the H50. I used it for almost a year and I was able to OC a phenom965 to 4.02Ghz fully stable which is a pretty nice OC in my opinion. I was also able to OC my i7 930 to 4.0Ghz. But now its time to go past 4.0 Very Happy


Watercooling itself doesnt make you go past 4.0ghz, there is shitloads of things what you need to tweak after certain point :>
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 23:35    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
And you'd be surprised at how many air coolers there are that are as good or better than the H50. The biggest problem I would have with the H50 or any other pre-sealed kit is the inability to mount the rad outside. Unless you're willing to go all Wolverine on your computer's ass like tc did. Very Happy


ya but I like knowing that there isn't a massive weight load on my motherboard from a hunk of metal, and any heat my cpu does put off is generally going directly out of the case, not blowing into the case itself.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 00:11    Post subject:
Is there an appreciative difference in performance between H50 and H70?


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 00:55    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Is there an appreciative difference in performance between H50 and H70?


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/35225-corsair-hydro-h70-cpu-cooler-review-7.html


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 08:40    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
timechange01 wrote:
swingman wrote:
inability to mount the rad outside. Unless you're willing to go all Wolverine on your computer's ass like tc did. Very Happy


Lol I was just about to say do what I did Cool Face

Overall I liked the H50. I used it for almost a year and I was able to OC a phenom965 to 4.02Ghz fully stable which is a pretty nice OC in my opinion. I was also able to OC my i7 930 to 4.0Ghz. But now its time to go past 4.0 Very Happy


Watercooling itself doesnt make you go past 4.0ghz, there is shitloads of things what you need to tweak after certain point :>


True but water cooling eliminates a HUGE barrier between reaching higher clocks. Just overclocked my cpu to 4.4Ghz



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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 08:44    Post subject:
what are you using to check stability? I'd use intel burn test on "high" about 20 passes to get an idea if it's stable or not. Prime95 is garbage unless you just want to heat your cpu up and test memory/northbridge OC.

Prime95 doesn't have an optimized code for testing a CPU, IE you can send something like 1+1 infinite time to a cpu and it'll be under full load. It's why you can use your computer still with no lag. The intel burn test was developed with an optimized code made to stress the cpu under full load.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 08:53    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
what are you using to check stability? I'd use intel burn test on "high" about 20 passes to get an idea if it's stable or not. Prime95 is garbage unless you just want to heat your cpu up and test memory/northbridge OC.

Prime95 doesn't have an optimized code for testing a CPU, IE you can send something like 1+1 infinite time to a cpu and it'll be under full load. It's why you can use your computer still with no lag. The intel burn test was developed with an optimized code made to stress the cpu under full load.


I use IntelBurn like you told me. I never use Prime95 anymore. I did 10 passes on standard but I accept your challenge for 20 passes on high!



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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 09:10    Post subject:
high is what's recommended. I've plenty of OC's pass standard with whatever i had. It doesn't stress it enough. If it passes 20 high, then you're good. If you're curious, go ahead and do 30-40


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 09:13    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
high is what's recommended. I've plenty of OC's pass standard with whatever i had. It doesn't stress it enough. If it passes 20 high, then you're good. If you're curious, go ahead and do 30-40


Just did 20 passes on high: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63556&start=60

I usually just stick to 10 passes on standard because its much faster



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