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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Jul 2022 11:09    Post subject:
https://www.techpowerup.com/296927/microsoft-plans-windows-12-for-2024

So basically...Win11 is already abandonware...


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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Jul 2022 11:56    Post subject:
The cycle continues.


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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jul 2022 11:07    Post subject:
So is this a viable choice, it constantly nags me at work if I want to upgrade, should I, are there any issues with adobe and other graphic editing software? For gaming at home I don't care, but at work everything has to run smoothly.


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jul 2022 13:43    Post subject:
AnarchoS wrote:
So is this a viable choice, it constantly nags me at work if I want to upgrade, should I, are there any issues with adobe and other graphic editing software? For gaming at home I don't care, but at work everything has to run smoothly.

why would you? just keep on using 10 until you need 11, or even better until 12 is out.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jul 2022 15:57    Post subject:
@AnarchoS
If you don't want it, can do like I did and turn TPM off in the bios, it doesn't bug me to upgrade. Doesn't even offer it as an option in updates.

I myself don't want it as 10 works fine, and some of the choices in its GUI is progress backwards to me on how i like my UI: right click menu is weird, they TOTALLY removed ability to add taskbar toolbars, the start menu is somehow worse to me than the 8/10 default one. and a few other little annoyances that aren't a big deal, but a step backwards vs forwards on what I would like vs 10.

I could fix all those things with 3rd party stuff (other than toolbars and thats a big deal to me). But why upgrade OS, to one I have to spend an hour or two to 'fix' so it works like the one I have now, when I already have...the one I have now that works like that? Razz
I honestly cannot see my going to 11, unless they make a DirectX or something only it has that forces me to.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jul 2022 16:30    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
So basically...Win11 is already abandonware...


No it’s not. Software developement of this scale doesnt happen one version at a time but rather ’now’, ’soon’, ’later’, ’future’ phases. Some features will be available soon some sometimes in a distant future. Windows 12 is no different from any other OS developement.

Edit: Here is a great example of multiple version developement: https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/roadmap


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2022 19:22    Post subject:
Finally installed this Windows 11 since needed to do reinstall so why not, what is the fuss about the interface and start bar? To me everything looks modern now, Microsoft has copied macOS so much, but i like it.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2022 19:58    Post subject:
@Breezer_
True but some of it is so different that productivity and throughput on things you do 100's of times a day in a work environment get slowed way down.

For casual everyday use, its fine. Annoying just because it's different. But fine.
But for example what took me 20 second to get to for end user box services (not the task manger tab one, the actual services list and controls), DCOM/domain user permissions and such took me 6 minutes, and googling where the fuck it moved to, to find it in a harder to navigate 'streamlined' menu with 20 other things lumped in with it.

Since they have made it more end user friendly by hiding settings they do not need from surface level places you can get to, to streamline the UI. IE take all the stuff joe average doesn't need, and move it from where it is to some sub-sub-menu to clean up how confusing windows is when they open say, the control panel or rightclick a file/icon/shortcut.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 20:21    Post subject:
22H2 is out NAOW! https://techbench.betaworld.cn/get.php?id=2360


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 20:58    Post subject:


cant even run your own memtest in the future of this turd
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Sep 2022 14:12    Post subject:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/what-is-smart-app-control-285ea03d-fa88-4d56-882e-6698afdb7003#bkmk_eval


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 01:38    Post subject:
join us at the linux side - garden of eden where the grass is actually green Very Happy lots of love and peace will await you!
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 06:29    Post subject:
Lots of nothing awaits me. No pretty ladies, no friends to hold me company. Its a solitary existence with lower games compability
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 06:35    Post subject:
lol loonix


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 11:37    Post subject:
So... has MS managed to make Win 11 useful and fixed the most major bugs yet? Is there ANY reason upgrade to Win 10???

Is it possible to customize the UI to my liking?


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 12:28    Post subject:
I personally don't see any reason to unless you just like the "New OS smell", or want to have a PC more like a tablet/phone, I mean that in both good and bad ways for the UI. Some things they made it 'so easy even a phone user can do it' type stuff like a focus [out of the box anyway] on social media, online presence, etc.
But also the UI is more phone/tablet like too as in more complex options than simply opening a program or common average user options are more hidden to make it simpler to understand. So if you are a old school windows user that likes the equal on a phone of 'root access' you have to do more work, or clicks to get to those parts.

For me personally doing work, gaming, coding, and dont do any social media other than here. Win 11 offers nothing compelling to want to go to it for.


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 12:35    Post subject:
Okay then. No Win 11 for me. I wonder if Windows 12 will bring actual improvements instead of a smartphone UI reskin. Windows needs some pipework to fix the bloated service stack among other things.


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 14:24    Post subject:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/gaming/windows-11-22h2-causing-gaming-issues-for-some-nvidia-users/


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trollpower




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2022 18:40    Post subject:
Thats actually nvidia cripling performance of old cards via drivers... To force you buy 4070 for 1200eur... Laughing

I play bf2042 and rdr2 and had zero issues so far... It runs as pre-update.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2022 09:18    Post subject:
https://prod.support.services.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-to-optimize-gaming-performance-in-windows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Nov 2022 13:23    Post subject:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2#lower-than-expected-performance-in-some-games


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2022 01:12    Post subject:
It's Win ME/Vista/8 all over again.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2022 01:19    Post subject:
so disable the debugging shit and push out the update
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2022 04:01    Post subject:
Helped a friend of my in-laws setup his new Dell desktop with preloaded Windows11 today. Holy fuck that UI looks like a 3 way cross between Nickelodeon for kids, a discount 99 cent phone from Cricket Wireless, and flat out spyware. So bad, and all the colorful icons made me want to gouge my eyes out.

I also got fucked after connecting the wifi on setup.. it then forced me to sign into microsoft account. Tried rebooting the PC at prompt but the setup remembered the WiFi and reconnected, and forced me into it.

By signing into MS, it also forced me to use OneDrive, unknowningly. No prompt, no nothing.. so when i transferred his files I was getting all mixed up. Even though i dumped his old User folder on desktop with my data transfer software, it was nowhere to be found.

Eventually (took me 20 minutes or so, i must have looked like a real asshole) i found it in users\HisName\Onedrive\Desktop.

WTF. trash.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 19:18    Post subject:
Oh noes ....


Microsoft decided all of a sudden that my PC is now ready for Win11 Neutral
I didn't even activate TPM or changed anything...

Is gaming performance issues resolved ? Should I go 11 or should I stay 10 now ? Confused


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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 19:59    Post subject:
depends; if you have an HDR display i say go for Win11:
auto HDR and their new HDR calibration tool actually don't do such a bad job

otherwise it's mostly infuriating (one step forward, two steps back)
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 20:10    Post subject:
tried it too and got the same old washed out screen. HDR just doesn't work on my Q95A
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 22:13    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Oh noes ....


Microsoft decided all of a sudden that my PC is now ready for Win11 Neutral
I didn't even activate TPM or changed anything...

Is gaming performance issues resolved ? Should I go 11 or should I stay 10 now ? Confused

My two cents. Stay on 10. 11 offers nothing worth upgrading for. Its trading in a honda civic for a toyota Corolla.
Nothing 'better' in it and you have the hassle of learning where all the controls have moved to so you can reach them without looking while driving..all over again.

If you have TPM disabled in the BIOS and it didn't re-enable by an BIOS update or reset, it shouldn't bug you. Its the only thing that stops me from being eligible and it hasn't ever asked me to update to it:


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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 23:30    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
tried it too and got the same old washed out screen. HDR just doesn't work on my Q95A

worked pretty well on LG OLED
but also this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/mbpiwy/lg_oled_gamingpc_monitor_recommended_settings/
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2023 06:20    Post subject:
Nothing interested folks for WinHe11even since 2022?

Shame Laughing

Don't ask me?, I'm no longer a Windows user lol.
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